Owari no Seraph Episode 4 Discussion

Noodle070 said:
Okay ep but it still wasn't anything special. The show still isn't getting better.

*clap clap* Fantastic introduction to your classmates, Yuu-kun. "I'm not gonna be your friend because I'm better than all of you and I'll obviously get the best equipment." Arrogance readings off the charts.

Oh my gosh thank GOODNESS they went to see glasses-guys's sister in the hospital, (despite the resistance). "I'm not gonna see my sister even though she's probably dying because I need to do well in this exam in order to save her!" The amount of stupidity in his thinking before Yuu punched him was inconceivable.

Also predictable anime is predictable: obviously neither of them are going to get bad scores because they agreed to go see that dude's sister because being with her was ultimately the more important issue at hand. If that's not gonna be the reason as to why they will both advance in their training I can't wait to see what's actually gonna happen.

skudoops said:
This anime is feels like a checklist anime tbh i.e. it is as though they just threw together a bunch of popular tropes with a bunch popular staff members and hoped for the best. There's no distinctive feature here, everything is generic and by the books, the OST is just ok, the animation is quite awful, the premise has been done before (and better), the story has gone no where and the characters seem very stereotypical except the army girl. Speaking of her, how did she get to team up with the whimpy kid or rather why did she get to team up with him when she has her own cursed weapon?

fst said:


If you think this show has bad animation, you're obviously talking out of your ass.

skudoops said:


I should rephrase that, it has bad animation compared to the budget I guess? Just look at how terrible all the action scenes have been so far. For episode 2 for instance, they rarely put the vampire girl and the MC in the same shot, they always showed their actions with the camera facing the one who is doing the action or a first person view of the person who's doing the action i.e. showing their arm alone or something while the other person defends, there's also a lot of cut aways and stills. I may not getting my point across properly, but it feels like a high budget low budget anime so to speak. I'd expect them to zoom out and let us see a fluid fight but it feels like they cut so much corners, it's also something I dislike SNK for.

fst said:


You didn't watch it did you?

The only cutaway they did was for dramatic effect. At least about half the shots had them both on screen, even though that isn't even an indicator of animation quality. There was lots of exposition sprinkled in (what do you expect it's a manga adaptation) but even when they were just talking, there were very few stills.

If you think that anything which doesn't look exactly like that scene from Sword of the Stranger isn't good animation, you have a serious lack of imagination. It wasn't super fluid or otherwise supremely exceptional, but for a TV anime, it's pretty good for a TV anime.

skudoops said:


Not really, shows like HxH 2011, Ippo, Nanatsu no tanzai among others greatly upstage this one and they are all tv anime.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Is it just me or is it really hard to hear some of the characters dialogue over the BGM at times? Not that it's top caliber stuff and luckily there's subtitles involved but it's really strange to me when you have the primary audio track half drowning out the voice actors portion of it all with music that half the time feels inappropriate for the scene. This isn't the only Hiroyuki Sawano scored show to have this problem of late either.

AlexTheRiot said:
Really hope that's not a sign of Wit having a few Tarou's on their production team. That and those several scenes that just transition badly or feel weird could point to issues in the planning between the staff and inexperienced director. Thankfully, those scenes have been less persistent, so hopefully the music will feel more natural from here on. Thank god for split cour though, most of these issues should disappear.

Haytin said:
Pretty boring episode nothing really interesting happened and judging from the preview they won't even get their weapons during the next episode. This anime is only 12 episodes long I don't really understand why they have so much padding...

zilch16 said:
I really don't understand this site. I think this is a discussion and not a criticism or insulting site for the episode and yet all I see is that. Ah, I love this episode. Much better than the previous (of course since Mika has appeared). And can anyone just be patient. What's so wrong with the school thing. Anything need some progress and this show is doing a good job of it. You lot will complain for a series for being too fast and also complain if it is too slow. Oh God, you just doesn't have any good satisfaction, aren't you. That's why anime industry is declining and producers keeps having their courage down, since all you do is INSULT, INSULT, INSULT.

Ciarson said:
You probably don't even understand what a discussion is. People are free to post both their positive and negative opinions.

Tokoya said:
Best girl strikes again

chakracat said:
This is really feeling like aldnoah zero.

slovak125 said:
Arguably the best episode so far. Though, that's not saying much. OP is pain for ears contrary to the superb ED. I don't like training arcs. Hope they will get over them soon. Obviously, vampire queen must be a loli. *facepalm*.

In spite of all its flaws and shortcomings this show is one of the more interesting anime this season.

Haytin said:
Pretty boring episode nothing really interesting happened and judging from the preview they won't even get their weapons during the next episode. This anime is only 12 episodes long I don't really understand why they have so much padding...

AlexTheRiot said:
I didn't notice the bgm drowning out the voices, but this is the third episode where I've felt like several scenes in the first half of the episode had a very badly placed OST. This time it was the flashback, when Krul is confronting Ferid and saving Mika. Last episode it was during the Shinoa fight, the intensity of the music was distracting from the dialogue almost like trying to read a book accompanied by some death metal. Granted those scenes have action in them, but the music never rises and falls with the scene. It's like they realized too late they hadn't gotten a corresponding piece from Sawano for certain scenes so they just had to throw in whatever existing piece they thought fit best.

skudoops said:
This anime is feels like a checklist anime tbh i.e. it is as though they just threw together a bunch of popular tropes with a bunch popular staff members and hoped for the best. There's no distinctive feature here, everything is generic and by the books, the OST is just ok, the animation is quite awful, the premise has been done before (and better), the story has gone no where and the characters seem very stereotypical except the army girl. Speaking of her, how did she get to team up with the whimpy kid or rather why did she get to team up with him when she has her own cursed weapon?

Haytin said:
Pretty boring episode nothing really interesting happened and judging from the preview they won't even get their weapons during the next episode. This anime is only 12 episodes long I don't really understand why they have so much padding...

skudoops said:


I should rephrase that, it has bad animation compared to the budget I guess? Just look at how terrible all the action scenes have been so far. For episode 2 for instance, they rarely put the vampire girl and the MC in the same shot, they always showed their actions with the camera facing the one who is doing the action or a first person view of the person who's doing the action i.e. showing their arm alone or something while the other person defends, there's also a lot of cut aways and stills. I may not getting my point across properly, but it feels like a high budget low budget anime so to speak. I'd expect them to zoom out and let us see a fluid fight but it feels like they cut so much corners, it's also something I dislike SNK for.

Pat_To_Do-List said:
Last thing, why did Shinoa join the aptitude test? I thought she's already in the army.

Kyotouryuu said:
With every episode gets more cliche >.>

ChromiumSX said:
So far is okay (although I felt like there something missing) that's why I felt a bit bored

Chuunichan said:
Reading the comments, I'm guessing that most haters are just hipsters/elitists that are just here to hate TEH NEW SNK!!!! NOOOOO WHY DON'T THEY MAKE MORE LOLDEEP/EDGY SHIT THAT I LIEK :''''''''(

HotaruKara said:
I hate to admit this but I kind of liked this episode, even if when I saw the first episode I had the worst impression of this show. It's still average at it's best, though.
However, the vampire loli is so unoriginal. Just to show she's unoriginal, there's a loli vampire queen that appeared before her, who "coincidentally" had the same last name, Nina Tepes from Dance in the vampire bund.

HotaruKara said:
Just to show she's unoriginal, there's a loli vampire queen that appeared before her, who "coincidentally" had the same last name, Nina Tepes from Dance in the vampire bund.

Tokoya said:
Best girl strikes again

Aiko_Hiroshi said:


Yeah but 2 of those anime were done by Madhouse (They have the most money to throw around for their adaptations) and the last one was A-1 which also is a larger anime studio that has extra money to throw around. It's not really fair to compare.

black1blade said:

Animation quality often isn't related to budget at least not directly. The animation looks really nice so far.