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Apr 10, 2015 4:27 PM
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It is a bit too early for me to be sure. However, at the moment, it appears that
this series is extremely unpopular in Japan. Hardly anybody is pre-ordering the
Blu-rays or the DVDs.

Here are the "Amazon Stalker points" as of 8:00 am, Saturday, April 11th in
Tokyo:

Volume 1 06/24 Blu-ray = 307, DVD = 278
Volume 2 07/24 Blu-ray = 232, DVD = 104
Volume 3 08/26 ...
...

Based on my experience looking at these numbers, they seem really, really bad.
I might even say awful. Of course, it is possible that they will pick up with time.
But in fact, "Amazon Stalker points" quite often go down with time.

Is it possible that a lot of Japanese viewers got turned off by the fact that
Episode 1 apparently started off as a Yuri genre story? After all, there was
basically no warning. There was only a very brief hint on the official website.

I don't mind Yuri stories. It is among my favorite genres. On the other hand,
I don't like it when a story turns out to have an entirely different genre from
what I expected. In my case, I really don't like it when I start to watch a
series thinking that it is a high-school-based harem romance, only to later
see that it was actually a psychological horror story with explicit gruesome
violence. Also, I don't like it when a horrible insect-like monster suddenly
appears and eats somebody.

I am not suggesting there is anybody who is homophobic or intolerant here
on the threads for this series. If anything, it's been the opposite. But there are
some days when one feels like watching a Yuri story and other days when one
wants to watch a different genre. I always look very carefully at the genre of a
series before I start to watch it.

Basically, "serious" Yuri anime series have been business failures since the
middle of 2009, if not earlier. These are sometimes called "Central-element
Yuri"*. "Yurikuma Arashi", which just finished, was only getting about 900
Amazon Stalker points for the BDs and DVDs. That was likely an economic
disaster for the studio.

By comparison, the extremely popular series "Shirobako" was getting around
8000 Amazon Stalker points. Typical normal series get 2000 to 3000 or so.

A basic rule of being the director of an anime series is that you should not
alienate half of your audience in the first five minutes.

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* Info about the Yuri genre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_%28genre%29
Apr 15, 2015 7:42 PM
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I like the results. I'm not alone.
#CHEXIT
Apr 16, 2015 11:46 AM
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That's sad, I really like Mikagura...

You are right. The show has shoujo-ai ships, but then it also brings in hetero ships. Taste clash everywhere. I like this tho... One day, I would love to watch a series which has yuri, yaoi and hetero ships all at the same time, yet people still love it and bring it to max popularity. It would probably a remain a dream tho. Sigh.
Apr 16, 2015 4:07 PM
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Here are the new "Amazon Stalker points" as of a few minutes ago:

Volume 1 06/24 Blu-ray 339 DVD 315
Volume 2 07/24 Blu-ray 325 DVD 178
Volume 3 08/26 ...
Volume 4 09/25 ...
...

These are extremely bad. So the number of fans in Japan who are pre-ordering
the Blu-rays and DVDs are extremely small. Apparently, people in Japan don't
like this series.

If I were guessing what turns people off, I think there are too many diverse
elements all mixed up. Fans can't tell what genre to expect.

I like the Yuri, the "Cuz-con", the random clubs and the concept of penalty for
non-club-membership. But then they added too much stuff beyond that, such
as the magical battles.
Apr 16, 2015 5:17 PM
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okanagan said:
Here are the new "Amazon Stalker points" as of a few minutes ago:

Volume 1 06/24 Blu-ray 339 DVD 315
Volume 2 07/24 Blu-ray 325 DVD 178
Volume 3 08/26 ...
Volume 4 09/25 ...
...

These are extremely bad. So the number of fans in Japan who are pre-ordering
the Blu-rays and DVDs are extremely small. Apparently, people in Japan don't
like this series.

If I were guessing what turns people off, I think there are too many diverse
elements all mixed up. Fans can't tell what genre to expect.

I like the Yuri, the "Cuz-con", the random clubs and the concept of penalty for
non-club-membership. But then they added too much stuff beyond that, such
as the magical battles.


I think people are loving it because of the "subtexts" rather than the anime as a whole. Same goes to people who watch ecchi for ecchi and hentaii for the sex. They don't give a care to the development of character, animation or plot, as long as their "like" are satisfied.
#CHEXIT
Apr 17, 2015 2:32 PM
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Imeon said:
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I think people are loving it because of the "subtexts" rather than the anime as a whole. Same goes to people who watch ecchi for ecchi and hentaii for the sex. They don't give a care to the development of character, animation or plot, as long as their "like" are satisfied.


That's a thing I'll never get. Those people call themselves anime otaku, but they don't respect anime at all. They'll hate a show when it doesn't pander to their fetishes and their fetishes alone and do not care for anything else at all. A show has to be ego masturbation fodder, or else they'll try to destroy it, be it through open hate and every attack they can do without leaving their bedroom(remember the Aku no Hana sales manipulations), or just pure and simple neglect. Those guys aren't fans at all, as the word fan implies loving everything else but yourself, they're just mental wankers. Goddamn, I hate modern Otaku to death
In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom.
Nov 9, 2015 9:28 AM
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I think I might buy this one day
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