Jagd84 said:Pat_To_Do-List said:
I understand what he has been through & what kind of problem he had to overcome. From how he did not know what to do with the Dollars to how to control the Dollars without establishing any rules. The problem here is he is progressing through all of the problems without a single character development. He is like in auto pilot, just plowing through every problem without learning anything from any of them. Look, you have to differentiate between character development & plot progression. What you have been talking about is Mikado as a character overcoming his problems, not character development. You have been talking about the storyline, not a character development. Character development is when a character learning something new & take that new thing to change his reaction to the problems he's facing. So in order to developing a character there needs to be a change on how he views/reacts to something. So, is he changing(apart from how his views on how to control the Dollars)?
You got it wrong there. As we learned from the 1st season, Mikado asked the Dollars for help to do certain things. So in other word, he learned that he can ask the Dollars to help him. Because in the end he is the founding father of the Dollars, so of course at least some of the members respect his decision/his call for help. Then, in this season, he once again faced a problem where he could easily ask the Dollars to help him in a certain way(not helping him beat up the Blue Squares). Maybe at least try to clear the confusion about what's happening between the Dollars & the white motorbike gang. Did he ask anything from the Dollars after he learned he could ask them for help in this season? No. Why? There's no explanation for this.
I give you that. That is a character development. But after all this time & the only thing changed from him is that one thing is not that good of a character development. He should have learned from many things & changed so much yet he is not. That's disappointing.
Again, you seem not really understand what's going on and why things happened the way they did. Alright first off Mikado never asked Dollars for help in s1 ever, he can't ask the Dollars for help. He is not the leader of the group so he can't go around giving orders, only suggestions. Mikado can only manipulate like he did when tricked them into holding a meeting to comfort Name. Second, Blue Square are the Dollars members, no different from Kadota or Shizuo. Furthermore what they have done is entirely valid even if self-serving because it based on ideals Mikado himself has set forth. Now it up to him to decide if Dollars are worth keeping in spite of that so there is no confusion to clear. Nobody can help here in any meaningful way, because his conflict is the Dollars itself on ideological level. The things that happened in s1 has nothing what's going on here at all. You merely bring up something superfacial that wouldn't change anything because nobody really views the Dollars in the same way Mikado does. Nor can they because they do not have the history he has with it. Sure Mikado is type of person to shoulder the burden of others, but it's really not what this is about here.
Well, maybe in the novels they are all the same. But in the anime adaptations? Are the characters handled the same? It's different. Like I said, the new characters in this season of Durarara!! were not handled as well as the 1st season or Baccano!. Was it different entirely? Not really. It had the same formula but with different quality to it.
Anime follows the novels more or less give or take a few things. Nobody that exist in this show (maybe save for Rio) would not be here without appearing in the novels first. I'm not seeing any differences here or ones with any real meaning.
What? What are you talking about? I never said anything about that. Again, you react so negatively towards my criticism. Let me clear things up, those two weird Russians(not Vorona & Slon) just there spat out a tiny bit of exposition about Vorona & that's it. Those two characters could easily be removed & it will not change a thing. Vorona's backstory could still be explained by the Russian sushi guy. And about those two weird Russians involvement? There's already an explanation about those two on the conversation between the Russian sushi guys & the other Russian who got punched by Shizuo. So their introduction in that particular scene was not needed because in the end they were not involved in anything meaningful in this season. Yes, they were involved indirectly, but that's it.
Haruna could have been removed from the story and somebody else could have taken her place because Saika's host could have been anybody. Mika could have been removed from the story and her role given to somebody else because it didn't need to be her due to plastic surgery. Simon could have been replace by a regular Sushi chief for all he does. This is the cyclic argument your going through doesn't work because it can be applied to 90% of cast outside Cetly, Mikado, Shizuo, Izaya, and Shinra. This why I say you don't get DRRR. This show about strange people for who know where interacting and causing chaos, whether it's for their agenda or anothers. It doesn't matter whether they're a re 2 bit crook or a politician. They contribute to the plot in some way. Russians were working directly for one of antagonists of this arc as well as various factions so they are involved in this mess no matter what you say. That is the fact.
Vorona's past important to understand her character and why she is the way she is. It's the very same reason you got backstory on Shizuo, Akane or anybody else. You don't need see any of them further to the plot, but that would be dumb and serve to make everyone less interesting. DRRR afterall about it's characters and their interactions. My post is not being defensive, it's just that your criticism has holes that contradict how DRRR has been. I'm only telling you how it is and that every character will be handled the same way, just they were since the novels and anime began.