| So since berseker switched masters and the original saber left and the new one took a new master I'm without a servant now? |
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| Caren, could you summarise the current Master-Servant pairs please? It's getting confusing with the switching and replacing. |
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| Haha, funny, I was actually in the middle of that. It's true that we have a Google Doc, but it'd be a bit bothersome to open it every single time. So here (if Blue's okay with it, I'll be adding it to the front later too): [u]Team Saber[/u] Master: Rintarou Okabe (Mickdrew) Servant: F/SN Saber - Arturia Pendragon (K0k0) [u]Team Archer[/u] Master: Shirou Emiya (OneTrueEmiya) Servant: F/SN Archer - ????? (Aurioch) Random Civilian: Taiga Fujimura (Bobulated) deal with it youre getting grouped with them [u]Team Lancer[/u] Master: Mira Nyanko (Mira-nyan) Servant: F/A Lancer of Red - Karna (blacknight201) [u]Team Rider[/u] Master: TBA Servant: TBA [u]Team Caster[/u] Master: Kirei Kotomine (TrueKireiPriest) Servant: F/SN Caster - Medea (HungryPriest) [u]Team Assassin[/u] Master: TBA Servant: TBA [u]Team Berserker[/u] Master: Ashikaga (Barbarian1) Servant: F/SN Berserker - Heracles (Bluepedal) [u]Team Gilgamesh[/u] Master: Emperor Shrimpy (Shrimperor) Servant: F/Z Archer - Gilgamesh (ZeroDragon) ... Now, while most of the Servant names here are listed and it's pretty easy to look up each of their identities, remember that, in-universe, none of you will know the identity of the other Servant. That's something you guys will have to discover for yourselves as the war goes on. And yeah, Love, I'm afraid that right now, you don't have one ^^; so you should make Isamu the Master of either Rider or Assassin. We still need three more players btw. |
CarenPriestessMar 19, 2015 7:34 AM
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| So according to blue pedal i need to find a servant or I'm dead so I'm kinda screwed right now since my two original servants decided they wanted to switch on me and the other two classes no one wants to make. |
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CarenPriest said: Although, just for fairness's sake, I would still like them to go and get permission from Saber of Red's Master & controller respectively ^^; Most definitely. I'm sorry I missed out on yesterday's discussion. I'll seek out Mirya, for she was the Master, but who was the ex-controller of Saber? LoveandHate91 said: So since berseker switched masters and the original saber left and the new one took a new master I'm without a servant now? My allotment seems to be impinging upon this gentleman's conveniences. I myself am not sure what's going on, LoveandHate91, but Mickdrew and I had reserved ourselves with Bluepedal. I was unable to register yesterday because I was unable to log on MAL. Is it alright if I take the position of Saber and let Mick be my Master? The Rider and Assassin classes are still open. |
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LoveandHate91 said: So according to blue pedal i need to find a servant or I'm dead so I'm kinda screwed right now since my two original servants decided they wanted to switch on me and the other two classes no one wants to make. This is a bit unfair to a player. Switching should not be allowed, I think. Whoever calls the shots to a Master or a Servant first, gets it. After all, in the HGW, there was no choosing. Now this fellow has ended up Servant-less. |
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| Well heres where my problem is i claimed berseker when i was the third master made and BluePedal told Barbarin that Berseker was already taken i come back hours later and find out bersker turned on me if i knew that before i could have choose caster Gilgemish or any servant for that matter and the only one that was left was saber i claimed him he then switches out and leaves me with no servant because no one wants to make Rider or Assassin because technically they are the weakest of the classes and I'm told if i don't find a servant soon i will die or be killed by another team so I have to hope someone comes on and makes one of the two weakest classes so i can at least survive somewhat its just frustrating because i could have picked any of the classes but i went with bersker only to have him switch on me and leave me with one choice and then that person switches meaning i lost 2 servants before the game even started and left with two choices that arnt even made yet |
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k0k0 said: LoveandHate91 said: So according to blue pedal i need to find a servant or I'm dead so I'm kinda screwed right now since my two original servants decided they wanted to switch on me and the other two classes no one wants to make. This is a bit unfair to a player. Switching should not be allowed, I think. Whoever calls the shots to a Master or a Servant first, gets it. After all, in the HGW, there was no choosing. Now this fellow has ended up Servant-less. Well, there has been instances when Servants were forcefully snatched away from their Masters. But I agree that the GM needs to cut the poor guy some slack- the war hasn't even started and he's already about to die... |
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k0k0 said: CarenPriest said: Although, just for fairness's sake, I would still like them to go and get permission from Saber of Red's Master & controller respectively ^^; Most definitely. I'm sorry I missed out on yesterday's discussion. I'll seek out Mirya, for she was the Master, but who was the ex-controller of Saber? Freischutz~ Also, Mira has already become Lancer's Master, so I guess it's no problem with him. k0k0 said: LoveandHate91 said: So since berseker switched masters and the original saber left and the new one took a new master I'm without a servant now? My allotment seems to be impinging upon this gentleman's conveniences. I myself am not sure what's going on, LoveandHate91, but Mickdrew and I had reserved ourselves with Bluepedal. I was unable to register yesterday because I was unable to log on MAL. Is it alright if I take the position of Saber and let Mick be my Master? The Rider and Assassin classes are still open. Love started off as Berserker's Master, but got hijacked by Barbarian (not quite sure how myself, but okay), so tried to become Saber of Red's Master, buuuttt... Well, if three more players don't join, then I guess you could always take control over a Servant instead and join Team Caster ^^; |
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LoveandHate91 said: Well heres where my problem is i claimed berseker when i was the third master made and BluePedal told Barbarin that Berseker was already taken i come back hours later and find out bersker turned on me if i knew that before i could have choose caster Gilgemish or any servant for that matter and the only one that was left was saber i claimed him he then switches out and leaves me with no servant because no one wants to make Rider or Assassin because technically they are the weakest of the classes and I'm told if i don't find a servant soon i will die or be killed by another team so I have to hope someone comes on and makes one of the two weakest classes so i can at least survive somewhat its just frustrating because i could have picked any of the classes but i went with bersker only to have him switch on me and leave me with one choice and then that person switches meaning i lost 2 servants before the game even started and left with two choices that arnt even made yet Dear me. This is a stinging injustice. Can you, perhaps, find a friend to become a Servant? And don't worry about Rider or Assassin's strength ranks--we're all amateurs here now and it is safe to say that Saber is probably the weakest. It's all about the tactics and if you know either Rider or Assassin well, you can survive. So you can try finding an ally to be in your service or try following Caren's advice; that sounds proper. :> |
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k0k0 said: Dear me. This is a stinging injustice. Can you, perhaps, find a friend to become a Servant? And don't worry about Rider or Assassin's strength ranks--we're all amateurs here now and it is safe to say that Saber is probably the weakest. It's all about the tactics and if you know either Rider or Assassin well, you can survive. So you can try finding an ally to be in your service; that sounds proper. :> To be fair and in-character to Shirou's (sometimes irrational) kindness, I suggest Rider over Assassin. Riders tend to have OP NPs up their sleeves. |
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| Well it comes back to my first problem BluePedal agreed to be my servant when every class was still open and then when other classes started getting taken he decided to break the contract with me and go to Barbarin leaving little choice of what i could pick i chose Saber instead since Saber is still a good class to take and then they left as well after getting claimed and now i have two choices which arnt even made so if we look at that I've lost two servants and about to die before the game and war has even started and I'm not too sure anyone will make a assassin or rider any time soon i would play one of them but the thing is i don't play assassins and i don't play people who ride stuff meaning I'm kinda screwed on my play style and in game it would have been nice to know that my two servants left me as well instead of taking this because if i knew berseker left me i would have been gilgameish master or caster maybe claim saber even earlier |
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OneTrueEmiya said: k0k0 said: Dear me. This is a stinging injustice. Can you, perhaps, find a friend to become a Servant? And don't worry about Rider or Assassin's strength ranks--we're all amateurs here now and it is safe to say that Saber is probably the weakest. It's all about the tactics and if you know either Rider or Assassin well, you can survive. So you can try finding an ally to be in your service; that sounds proper. :> To be fair and in-character to Shirou's (sometimes irrational) kindness, I suggest Rider over Assassin. Riders tend to have OP NPs up their sleeves. Red-head's probably right, so you can try doing this if you'd like. You just need to call upon a friend now. LoveandHate91 said: Well it comes back to my first problem BluePedal agreed to be my servant when every class was still open and then when other classes started getting taken he decided to break the contract with me and go to Barbarin leaving little choice of what i could pick i chose Saber instead since Saber is still a good class to take and then they left as well after getting claimed and now i have two choices which arnt even made so if we look at that I've lost two servants and about to die before the game and war has even started and I'm not too sure anyone will make a assassin or rider any time soon i would play one of them but the thing is i don't play assassins and i don't play people who ride stuff meaning I'm kinda screwed on my play style and in game it would have been nice to know that my two servants left me as well instead of taking this because if i knew berseker left me i would have been gilgameish master or caster maybe claim saber even earlier I understand your position, LoveandHate91, but I don't think much can be done about what's done. So let's look to what can be done, and a couple of people have already left their kind advice. As for "I don't play assassins or people who ride stuff" part: I've never role-played in my life, nor have I much idea of the unique distinctions of each class, much less my own (working on that). And I think Rider is absolutely bad-ass. I'd be her if Mick knew more about her. Try playing a new character, why don't you? Our soul purpose is amusement, after all. |
k0k0Mar 19, 2015 7:52 AM
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| And as for my friends most of them are too busy to Rp at the moment so they arnt able to join otherwise id have the perfect partners but no they are all too busy |
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LoveandHate91 said: because no one wants to make Rider or Assassin because technically they are the weakest of the classes Assassin's badass. And RIDER? No, nonononono, Rider's actually amongst the strongest, you know? Especially when you look at the options and how badass they all are. Just relax, I'm sure someone will come to make a Servant soon. |
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| If things remain unchanged, LoveandHate91 must take refuge in your church overseeer Caren :D |
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CarenPriest said: Assassin has that underhanded presence concealment tho, could be tricky and deadlyLoveandHate91 said: because no one wants to make Rider or Assassin because technically they are the weakest of the classes Assassin's badass. And RIDER? No, nonononono, Rider's actually amongst the strongest, you know? Especially when you look at the options and how badass they all are. Just relax, I'm sure someone will come to make a Servant soon. |
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LoveandHate91 said: i don't play assassins F/SN Assassin functions more like a Saber, and he's really awesome too, so you're more than welcome to use him~ LoveandHate91 said: and i don't play people who ride stuff Just because the Rider class is called "Rider" doesn't mean they ride stuff 24/7. Besides, Riders typically have OP NPs. They're cool. |
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| I know this i just look at the wiki because i liked the assassin and rider wasn't too bad but is still goes that i have no servant to do those things they are so good at because here my favorites are berseker first claim i also would have chosen caster or Gilgemish as my second pick already taken take Saber as the next pick he switched out and claimed a new master assassin and rider were my last picks and are not being claimed |
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| If I might interject.... CarenPriest said: F/SN Assassin functions more like a Saber, and he's really awesome too, so you're more than welcome to use him~ |
blacknight201 said: CarenPriest said: Assassin has that underhanded presence concealment tho, could be tricky and deadlyAssassin's badass. And RIDER? No, nonononono, Rider's actually amongst the strongest, you know? Especially when you look at the options and how badass they all are. Just relax, I'm sure someone will come to make a Servant soon. But they never get to use it well though, because bs Instinct or Eye of Mind skills that stop their sneak attacks at the last minute. Rider all the way. NP spammage will be so fun for them :v Insertanamehere said: If I might interject.... Just my two cents, but if follow Nasu's rules, |
OneTrueEmiyaMar 19, 2015 7:59 AM
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| Remember F/Z Rider? His Ionian Hetaroi is pretty OP , so rider and assassin arent that bad |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Fate/Extra's assassin has perfect presence concealment thoughblacknight201 said: Assassin has that underhanded presence concealment tho, could be tricky and deadly But they never get to use it well though, because bs Instinct or Eye of Mind skills that stop their sneak attacks at the last minute. Rider all the way. NP spammage will be so fun for them :v |
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blacknight201 said: If things remain unchanged, LoveandHate91 must take refuge in your church overseeer Caren :D Indeed. In the worst case scenario, I can still use him~ A Master who still has three Command Seals, even if they lack a Servant, would be immensely valuable for my purposes... Kekekekekeh. Insertanamehere said: If I might interject.... CarenPriest said: F/SN Assassin functions more like a Saber, and he's really awesome too, so you're more than welcome to use him~ |
CarenPriestessMar 19, 2015 8:03 AM
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| So Caren you say its either die because i have no servant or take refuge in your church and be used however you want? |
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LoveandHate91 said: So Caren you say its either die because i have no servant or take refuge in your church and be used however you want? If the current situation doesn't change (as in no new people) and Blue allows for it, I could potentially arm you with a fragment of my Holy Scripture, which would connect itself to your Command Seals and grant you powers similar to that of the Fate/strange fake protagonist. If you choose to come to my Church seeking aid, you would in effect become a wild card, and I'd just love the opportunity to cause chaos in the Holy Grail War. Besides, I mean, you've been inconvenienced enough that it would only be fair. OR, you can just become a Servant yourself right now (Rider or Assassin) and join Team Caster. |
CarenPriestessMar 19, 2015 8:15 AM
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| I guess the rules are unclear maybe after a servant agrees to become someones servant they just can't decide to break the contract and take a new master because i was gone when this happened and get left with few choices i would have picked a better class for a servant if i knew this is what is going to happen but i don't know if i can't get a servant just make me a assassin and hopefully i can get some sneak attacks in battles without them seeing where I'm hiding or dodge my sneak attack because something felt wrong |
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| Being under caster= being one of her meat sword and shield, wouldnt be too nice |
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blacknight201 said: Being under caster= being one of her meat sword and shield, wouldnt be too nice On the other hand, if you have high enough Magic Resistance or IA, you can outright ignore Caster and go on your merry way. |
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| Yea i know but i don't really have much of a choice right now when berseker left me and i didn't know until 5+ hours later i was kinda screwed on my choices for what servant to claim or what servant to be |
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LoveandHate91 said: I guess the rules are unclear maybe after a servant agrees to become someones servant they just can't decide to break the contract and take a new master because i was gone when this happened and get left with few choices i would have picked a better class for a servant if i knew this is what is going to happen but i don't know if i can't get a servant just make me a assassin and hopefully i can get some sneak attacks in battles without them seeing where I'm hiding or dodge my sneak attack because something felt wrong F/SN Assassin and a lot of Riders can just outright face Servants in battle, you know~ I get the feeling that a lot of RPers won't really allow themselves to be done in by assassination. OneTrueEmiya said: blacknight201 said: Being under caster= being one of her meat sword and shield, wouldnt be too nice On the other hand, if you have high enough Magic Resistance or IA, you can outright ignore Caster and go on your merry way. Not sure if that's a good idea, since Caster is probably capable of severing the contract, or at least stopping the flow of mana between her and her Servant, making you quickly disappear. Best way would be to negotiate with her and let you in on her and Kirei's plans~ |
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| I'm not sure if you could do this , but if you want to remain as a master, you could take refuge in the church and hope for a servant to lose his master, and then taking the position of master of that masterless servant |
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| And what are the limits on the creatures i could take as my mount a hydra would that work? |
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blacknight201 said: I'm not sure if you could do this , but if you want to remain as a master, you could take refuge in the church and hope for a servant to lose his master, and then taking the position of master of that masterless servant inb4gilgamesh LoveandHate91 said: And what are the limits on the creatures i could take as my mount a hydra would that work? I don't recall a Rider with a hydra as a mount, but there is this one with a flying pony... |
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LoveandHate91 said: Wiki has those info on how good a servant's riding skills and which vehicles can he mountAnd what are the limits on the creatures i could take as my mount a hydra would that work? |
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| A hydra is actually listed under the creatures that can mounts |
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| But it depends on the servant whether it can ride it or not |
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| Well thats why I'm asking what am i allowed to ride because a typhoon was also listed and that was considered more of a super weapon along with moby dick so I'm trying to find what would be allowed because assassin would be severely underpowered because no ones to die by a sneak lethal attack from assassin and i don't want to pick some weak mount because when Medusa had pegasus as her mount it was bigger and stronger then originally for some reason that wasn't explained and had ore magic restance then caster and could overpower saber in a battle |
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| @LoveandHate91 I'm thinking of being Rider's master, would you join me as F/SN Rider? Don't worry she's very powerful, and more importantly i know how to use her powers most efficiently. |
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| Well I'm still trying to decide on what i want I'm trying to figure out what i can ride if i take rider and if i took a assassin i would use Sasaki Kojirou because then i don't have to be a assassin i would be able to act like a saber for that matter |
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LoveandHate91 said: Well I'm still trying to decide on what i want I'm trying to figure out what i can ride if i take rider and if i took a assassin i would use Sasaki Kojirou because then i don't have to be a assassin i would be able to act like a saber for that matter If you choose Rider, then Pegasus is really all you need. It's an anti-army A+ NP with very high speed and very high divinity (It can easily take out Saber in the right circumstances). She also has another 2 VERY powerful NPs, Blood Fort Andromeda and Cybele. Seriously Kojiro is a joke compared to her. |
LoveandHate91 said: Well I'm still trying to decide on what i want I'm trying to figure out what i can ride if i take rider and if i took a assassin i would use Sasaki Kojirou because then i don't have to be a assassin i would be able to act like a saber for that matter Avoid being picky, for you will not find a better master than astro. Guy knows his stuff. |
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| K LoveandHate91 said: Keep in mind, sasaki's stats wouldnt be on par with someone of the saber class thoughWell I'm still trying to decide on what i want I'm trying to figure out what i can ride if i take rider and if i took a assassin i would use Sasaki Kojirou because then i don't have to be a assassin i would be able to act like a saber for that matter |
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astroprogs said: LoveandHate91 said: Well I'm still trying to decide on what i want I'm trying to figure out what i can ride if i take rider and if i took a assassin i would use Sasaki Kojirou because then i don't have to be a assassin i would be able to act like a saber for that matter If you choose Rider, then Pegasus is really all you need. It's an anti-army A+ NP with very high speed and very high divinity (It can easily take out Saber in the right circumstances). Another 2 VERY powerful, Blood Fort Andromeda and Cybele. Seriously Kojiro is a joke compared to her. B-b-but he gets to have 3 swords at once...! Extra Rider, by the way, is not half bad. EX rank luck and an NP that summons a bloody armada of ships. |
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blacknight201 said: K LoveandHate91 said: Keep in mind, sasaki's stats wouldnt be on par with someone of the saber class thoughWell I'm still trying to decide on what i want I'm trying to figure out what i can ride if i take rider and if i took a assassin i would use Sasaki Kojirou because then i don't have to be a assassin i would be able to act like a saber for that matter Oh, stop discouraging and confusing him. Here I am, reading the Saber wiki. It's all good. |
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| im not argueing aganst the person that wants to be Riders master I'm just trying to figure what mount would be acceptable pegasus would be good but trying to see what other options i have it i pick the rider class |
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| I k0k0 said: I'm merely helping him XDblacknight201 said: K Keep in mind, sasaki's stats wouldnt be on par with someone of the saber class though Oh, stop discouraging and confusing him. Here I am, reading the Saber wiki. It's all good. |
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| Sasaki would be petrified before he even draws his sword. Sasaki MAY have an upper hand against a handicapped Saber. If not, she'll Excalibur his ass from a distance. As for the mount, seriously Pegasus is the best mount there could ever be. k0k0 said: ...for you will not find a better master than astro. Guy knows his stuff. [spoiler]Thanks! <3  |
astroprogsMar 19, 2015 9:13 AM
LoveandHate91 said: im not argueing aganst the person that wants to be Riders master I'm just trying to figure what mount would be acceptable pegasus would be good but trying to see what other options i have it i pick the rider class If you pick SN Rider, you only get the Pegasus. Each Rider (normally) only has one mount as NP. Also, that Pegasus is OP, has defences close to that of a dragon. Also, Sasaki dies to almost every Servant. The poor guy can't do much against ranged attacks, and close-range peeps like Saber have crazy NPs to deal with him. |
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