Higashi no Eden Episode 10 Discussion

cyruz said:
Hard to guess who #12 is. the 5000 to move Juiz were the first withdrawal and shouldn't be enough to pull that off anyway.

Kantana said:
Wah, can't wait for next week now. I wonder how they'll wrap this all up in just one episode.

Alexstratz said:
Something I don't understand though : the pink guy said he still has 10 billion yen on his phone, but aren't the seleçaos supposed to use their money regularly or they'd be killed by the supporter? How come this guy gets to keep his money? XII being probably the supporter, what would that make the pink guy? Unless XII is Mr. Outside or Juiz so he/she isn't affected by the rules and that punk is the supporter.

halcyon said:


my thoughts exactly :/ can't wait until next week (and the movie).

Vipey said:
TWENTY THOUSAND NAKED MOTHA FUCKERS ON A BOAT

Enchant said:


Same here. Makes me want to rewatch the previous episodes to check if there are things the Supporter can and cannot do despite being a Selecao. This also makes me wonder, how well can Mononobe rely on his sources (even if he managed to become the executive of ATO) to properly identify the other Selacao.

I don't remember if Tsuji was ever mentioned by his number, it does seem possible that it's him. He really doesn't seem to match the description of a Selecao mentioned in the reenactment by Selecao # 5. (He doesn't seem as eager to be in the game and as you've mentioned, he hasn't used his funds at all. Yet, he lives.) And he hasn't used his phone, so no history has shown up for him, at least with his number.

Nor does match the figure Hiura saw at the time of his death in episode 4, but that isn't really reliable. Now that I think of it, there was no cleanup requested from Juiz after Hiura was killed.

Still loved this episode and I was glad to get a glimpse at what Juiz looks like.

DeathfireD said:


Rewatch episode 4. It doesn't really say anything about being penalized for not spending money. However Mr. outside says you will get penalized for not using your phone or producing results. So in short, all they really have to do is call people and get involved with things that could possibly save the nation (ie. use the phone).

Here is a list of the conditions that they must not brake.
1) You cannot abandon your mission or desert.
2) You cannot go for a long period of time without using your phone or producing no results.
3) You cannot use your 10 billion on your own personal desires. The money has to be spent for the sake of the nation.
4) If your balance hit's zero and you have not saved the nation, you die.


My guess is Akira saves the nation by stopping the missiles. The reason he probably didn't win before was because the missile attack was only directed at one general area and not the Nation as a whole. So theoretically if Akira blows all his cash preventing this attack, he most likely wont be killed by the supporter because he saved the country as a result of using all the cash.

Juiz is most likely member 12. Not only because she "supports" each member regardless of what they spend the money on but in episode 4 Mr. Outsider describes the supporter as someone who is "Enthusiastic to assist, but cruel when observing". It describes Juiz perfectly. She's always willing to help any of the members but as we learn more about the character and how they're using the money, you can sense her tone of voice changing negatively over time. Mr. Outsider also says "So called member 12" This could mean that 12 is not really a member but the system itself (ie. Juiz). So in the end any of the remaining 11 members could be killed by anyone but it would be the result of Juiz causing it. Look at the detective that was stabbed by his wife. It was a result of Juiz redirecting his message that was for his mistress to his wife.

Just my 2 cents.

Xylona said:
But I think that using the phone means using its services, not just calling random people on it whenever you want, without producing any real results. Hell, if that was the case, I'd order dinner every night on it and then bring some to the homeless people outside, and claim that I was producing a result and just live off the huge amount of money until I die or someone wins.
I think you have to make a real effort to change the country using Juiz, but who knows, because that pink-haired guy is still around. -shrugs-
I guess we'll see soon enough. =)

DeathfireD said:


Rewatch episode 4. It doesn't really say anything about being penalized for not spending money. However Mr. outside says you will get penalized for not using your phone or producing results. So in short, all they really have to do is call people and get involved with things that could possibly save the nation (ie. use the phone).

Here is a list of the conditions that they must not brake.
1) You cannot abandon your mission or desert.
2) You cannot go for a long period of time without using your phone or producing no results.
3) You cannot use your 10 billion on your own personal desires. The money has to be spent for the sake of the nation.
4) If your balance hit's zero and you have not saved the nation, you die.


My guess is Akira saves the nation by stopping the missiles. The reason he probably didn't win before was because the missile attack was only directed at one general area and not the Nation as a whole. So theoretically if Akira blows all his cash preventing this attack, he most likely wont be killed by the supporter because he saved the country as a result of using all the cash.

Juiz is most likely member 12. Not only because she "supports" each member regardless of what they spend the money on but in episode 4 Mr. Outsider describes the supporter as someone who is "Enthusiastic to assist, but cruel when observing". It describes Juiz perfectly. She's always willing to help any of the members but as we learn more about the character and how they're using the money, you can sense her tone of voice changing negatively over time. Mr. Outsider also says "So called member 12" This could mean that 12 is not really a member but the system itself (ie. Juiz). So in the end any of the remaining 11 members could be killed by anyone but it would be the result of Juiz causing it. Look at the detective that was stabbed by his wife. It was a result of Juiz redirecting his message that was for his mistress to his wife.

Just my 2 cents.

Alexstratz said:
Wow, now this is definitely one of the best episodes.

So the Careless Monday is the work of some emo kid. I'm pretty disappointed. :/ I wonder how those saved by Akira betrayed him. And what's he gonna do with the NEET army? Can't wait for next episode, too bad it's the last one. :(

Something I don't understand though : the pink guy said he still has 10 billion yen on his phone, but aren't the seleçaos supposed to use their money regularly or they'd be killed by the supporter? How come this guy gets to keep his money? XII being probably the supporter, what would that make the pink guy? Unless XII is Mr. Outside or Juiz so he/she isn't affected by the rules and that punk is the supporter. Or maybe it's because he's on Mononobe's side and they hacked the super computer?

Syl said:
Very well done episode. I was expecting a clusterfuck of compounded and rushed material, but it was pulled off really well. I can't wait for next week D:

Vipey said:
TWENTY THOUSAND NAKED MOTHA FUCKERS ON A BOAT

So the Careless Monday is the work of some emo kid. I'm pretty disappointed. :/ I wonder how those saved by Akira betrayed him.

As for the episode...
they didn't actually reveal how Takizawa was betrayed right? I'm scared I just kind of missed something really big >.>

Juiz is one smart lady too to be able to pull off all these crazy demands.

the neets are released, all 20,000 in the nude and pissed

Juiz ISN'T the supporter....rewatch episode 4 when #5 was killed by the supporter. I don't think Juiz would wear a suit and have a male figure.