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| Wow, I'm surprised everyone hates this so much. I didn't notice the (alleged) lack of animation because everything was so ridiculous and over the top that I couldn't keep the stupid grin off of my face. Almost reminds me of Kill la Kill or Inferno Cop in that respect. |
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| This was.. pretty pitiful. |
opondica said: I didn't notice the (alleged) lack of animation You do know that you're supposed to actually look at the screen when you watch tv, right? |
| I think this anime is funny, and it is no as bad as people here make it. The fox girl in the opening song is cute, and I can't wait to see her in 2nd ep I don't care about the animation, and I didn't see any problem with it. It looks fine for me. |
thepathApr 10, 2014 6:22 PM
| im still watching |
| Hate Keeps me warm |
| Saying the season get worse just because of a single anime? I'd really like to credited something to you people. |
| For those saying JC Staff is bankrupt or pushing the money aside for x or y show - please take some time to learn how the anime industry works. The funding put into this show has absolutely nothing to do with JC Staff, the state of their company, nor the budgets for any other shows they are working on or will work on in the future. It's not like the companies send out scouts to read manga, pick good stuff, beg for the rights to adapt it, pay out of their own pocket to license it, pay out of their own pocket to animate it, release it, market it, and so on. Animation studios are the ones who get the people coming and paying them - then they work with what they are paid (as well as using that money for their wages). Whoever wanted this adapted simply didn't feel like putting the money forward for it aside the bare minimum JC was willing to take to do it. |
TallonKarrde23Apr 10, 2014 6:50 PM
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| Dont know if this is just stupid or maybe get very good |
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| Lol I don't understand what happened. There was a rape joke for laughs which really dampened my interest and I almost fell asleep in several occasions. This was so boring. If this keeps up it's going to be the second thing I've dropped. |
| The animation feels like Manga still shots. They animated each part of the manga |
| Yeah, I don't know what to say here... Everything was just boring in here. The animation, art, characters, and story just put me to sleep in a sort of way. I'll see what the next episode look like before dropping this. |
| So I watched the first 4 minutes of this, then I skipped through it to see if it gets any better and just, no...no...no...no...no, done. This is just shameful terrible. |
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| Well, there are more cases of Virgin Girls having the power to do certain things ,than of Virgin Boys, so i'm guessing this is to balance them. |
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me |
| There are people that don't like this? LOL, more boobs and cool slideshow animation style for me then. It was fucking hilarious. |
| 21:31 arinsu!! 6.0/10 for this episode. Dat lazy animation. And, the MC should've exchanged that bad mecha with that oppaineechan. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| 10/10 Masterpiece! straggy said: There are people that don't like this? LOL, more boobs and cool slideshow animation style for me then. It was fucking hilarious. |
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| This has to be one of the most brilliant, well executed and though provoking anime I've ever seen. Masterpiece. |
AzlanApr 11, 2014 5:12 AM
Afezeria said: Saying the season get worse just because of a single anime? I'd really like to credited something to you people. I do not think so, so far I think this season is good, many series have lots of potential. Shakkin-shitsuji said: Candor said: J.C. Staff just went bankrupt. Poor them. No no. That's actually on purpose. It's to give us a better toAru new season with a max budget! So, thanks J.C to have done so poorly this season! Has a third season of Index or Railgun been officially announced? |
| “We see what we want to see” |
Hibbington said: So I watched the first 4 minutes of this, then I skipped through it to see if it gets any better and just, no...no...no...no...no, done. This is just shameful terrible. That's exactly what I did. |
| “We see what we want to see” |
| somehow managed to watch 5 min of it and then skipped though it...and nope, nope, nope. I'm done here... |
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| Soo.... basically, this is Nobunaga the Fool with 10x worse animation, slightly better character designs and fictional characters instead of real people characterised? Weak, JC Staff. Very weak. Even worse than Blade and Soul. |
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| Hello worst show of the season... |
yhunata said: Soo.... basically, this is Nobunaga the Fool with 10x worse animation, slightly better character designs and fictional characters instead of real people characterised? Weak, JC Staff. Very weak. Even worse than Blade and Soul. Except Nobunaga the Fool was boring bs with dumb characters and this was a funny comedy... But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. |
straggy said: yhunata said: Soo.... basically, this is Nobunaga the Fool with 10x worse animation, slightly better character designs and fictional characters instead of real people characterised? Weak, JC Staff. Very weak. Even worse than Blade and Soul. Except Nobunaga the Fool was boring bs with dumb characters and this was a funny comedy... But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. Nobunaga the Fool, from what I've watched, was brilliant mindless fun. This one had all those tits and I didn't even pop a boner. "Slideshow style", my ass. Dai Shogun has terrible animation and if it's a "style", then it's fucking terrible. If they wanna create a slideshow style, then they should create a picture drama, not a TV series. |
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| Again, wtf did I watch. Dammit. I don't want to drop a show after one episode, but I'm just not interested to see more. Well, will at least try the second episode. It looked like a really cool show (similar to NobuFool) but it just didn't meet my expectations. Too much random fanservice omg yhunata said: straggy said: yhunata said: Soo.... basically, this is Nobunaga the Fool with 10x worse animation, slightly better character designs and fictional characters instead of real people characterised? Weak, JC Staff. Very weak. Even worse than Blade and Soul. Except Nobunaga the Fool was boring bs with dumb characters and this was a funny comedy... But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. Nobunaga the Fool, from what I've watched, was brilliant mindless fun. This one had all those tits and I didn't even pop a boner. "Slideshow style", my ass. Dai Shogun has terrible animation and if it's a "style", then it's fucking terrible. If they wanna create a slideshow style, then they should create a picture drama, not a TV series. ^ Exactly my thoughts. NobuFool > this show...Also, what comedy? I didn't find anything in this episode. |
mayukachan said: yhunata said: straggy said: yhunata said: Soo.... basically, this is Nobunaga the Fool with 10x worse animation, slightly better character designs and fictional characters instead of real people characterised? Weak, JC Staff. Very weak. Even worse than Blade and Soul. Except Nobunaga the Fool was boring bs with dumb characters and this was a funny comedy... But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. Nobunaga the Fool, from what I've watched, was brilliant mindless fun. This one had all those tits and I didn't even pop a boner. "Slideshow style", my ass. Dai Shogun has terrible animation and if it's a "style", then it's fucking terrible. If they wanna create a slideshow style, then they should create a picture drama, not a TV series. ^ Exactly my thoughts. NobuFool > this show...Also, what comedy? I didn't find anything in this episode. Man, this show is wasted on you people. Just drop it so it can be good riddance. |
straggy said: But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. I just want to say that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The reason this looks like it does has nothing to do with a "slideshow style." That's not even a thing. No one would choose between animating a show normally and barely animating one. The reason the show looks like it does is purely budgetary, nothing more, nothing less. |
| mabye they're saving money for the action scenes |
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AsherFischell said: straggy said: But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. I just want to say that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The reason this looks like it does has nothing to do with a "slideshow style." That's not even a thing. No one would choose between animating a show normally and barely animating one. The reason the show looks like it does is purely budgetary, nothing more, nothing less. And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. |
straggy said: And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. Yami Shibai was intentionally animated to look like someone moving paper cutouts in order to reference an old style of story-telling that used paper scrolls. It also looked very cool and unique. If you're actually trying to use Yami Shibai to defend how awful Dai Shogun looks, then you've made it perfectly clear that you're incapable of differentiating between artistic minimalism and terrible, low-budget animation. If it was intentionally meant to be like a storybook as you seem to be saying, then it would not have used so much traditional animation. Additionally, the animation is very choppy and low quality, plus the mechs are all CG and move similar to how cg mechs in other shows move. If it was intentional, wouldn't the mechs fit into the equation as well? |
TheAshmanComethApr 11, 2014 8:33 PM
AsherFischell said: straggy said: And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. Yami Shibai was intentionally animated to look like someone moving paper cutouts in order to reference an old style of story-telling that used paper scrolls. It also looked very cool and unique. If you're actually trying to use Yami Shibai to defend how awful Dai Shogun looks, then you've made it perfectly clear that you're incapable of differentiating between artistic minimalism and terrible, low-budget animation. +1 straggy said: Man, this show is wasted on you people. Just drop it so it can be good riddance. I'm not that closed minded to drop on the first episode. LOL I'm just waiting for more. |
AsherFischell said: straggy said: And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. Yami Shibai was intentionally animated to look like someone moving paper cutouts in order to reference an old style of story-telling that used paper scrolls. It also looked very cool and unique. If you're actually trying to use Yami Shibai to defend how awful Dai Shogun looks, then you've made it perfectly clear that you're incapable of differentiating between artistic minimalism and terrible, low-budget animation. If it was intentionally meant to be like a storybook as you seem to be saying, then it would not have used so much traditional animation. Additionally, the animation is very choppy and low quality, plus the mechs are all CG and move similar to how cg mechs in other shows move. If it was intentional, wouldn't the mechs fit into the equation as well? Just because a style is the result of a low budget doesn't mean it's not a fucking style omg. Have you seen other low budget shows? I really liked it, but I'm gonna use Gifuu Doudou as my example here. It had a really low budget and really bad animation because it tried to just animate like other shows when it didn't have the money to. Dai Shogun cleverly avoided that using a more slideshow style of movement so they could keep the characters looking good with great shading, colouring and lighting. The reason the mechs don't move like that is because they could fucking afford to do the CGI, it's not hard to understand. They did try to save money because they have a budget like all animes have a fucking budget, but they did it using a style that looks cool. You're making it clear that you don't know the difference between keeping to a budget badly and keeping to a budget well using a style (since people are saying it's not one when it evidently is) like Yami Shibai, WHICH IS WHY I'M USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE, DUH. omg did you even read anything i said, evidently not |
| This anime is absolutely absurd, but enjoyable to a certain extent... Is this what J.C. Staff has been reduced to this season? |
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straggy said: Just because a style is the result of a low budget doesn't mean it's not a fucking style omg. Have you seen other low budget shows? I really liked it, but I'm gonna use Gifuu Doudou as my example here. It had a really low budget and really bad animation because it tried to just animate like other shows when it didn't have the money to. Dai Shogun cleverly avoided that using a more slideshow style of movement so they could keep the characters looking good with great shading, colouring and lighting. The reason the mechs don't move like that is because they could fucking afford to do the CGI, it's not hard to understand. They did try to save money because they have a budget like all animes have a fucking budget, but they did it using a style that looks cool. You're making it clear that you don't know the difference between keeping to a budget badly and keeping to a budget well using a style (since people are saying it's not one when it evidently is) like Yami Shibai, WHICH IS WHY I'M USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE, DUH. omg did you even read anything i said, evidently not Yes, you're right. You have an exceptional eye for quality. It's not you who's wrong, it's everyone else. All the people who can see how obviously bad the anime looks don't know what they're talking about, because you thinking that something looks cool in spite of it looking terrible means that they did it on purpose. Let me be clear, you might want to get your eyes checked and then possibly your blood pressure. You should then look up the word, "style" in the dictionary, as you don't seem to know what it means, which is illustrated by the fact that you can't tell the difference between something that's intentionally awful and something that's awful due to budgetary constraints. You once again use Yami Shibai as an example, but you seem to be incapable of understanding the difference. Yami Shibai was intended to look the way it does because it's hard-wired into the anime. It doesn't look bad because they had the money to do exactly what they intended. Yami Shibai's look and this show's look have nothing to do with each other. You're merely comparing them because you don't seem to understand why Yami Shibai looks like it does. Dai Shogun, on the other hand, is the result of a shoddy production. I'm going to remind you; just because you like something doesn't mean that you're right. Additionally, getting angry and cursing doesn't make you right either. Everything you've just said is guesswork, plain and simple. However, it's guesswork that you're treating as fact. |
TheAshmanComethApr 12, 2014 12:06 AM
| Pure Crap |
| I am better than you. |
| LOL people, there is no point in debating over it, I honestly prefer this "slideshow animation" over Magi's staircase animation. People who enjoyed this, enjoyed this, people who didn't, don't. It was okay, the perverted enemy chick keeps me watching, (don't kill me JoJo fanboys) it kind of feels like JoJo from the 3-4 episodes I have seen from it, they had somewhat similar style. Edit: opondica said: Wow, I'm surprised everyone hates this so much. I didn't notice the (alleged) lack of animation because everything was so ridiculous and over the top that I couldn't keep the stupid grin off of my face. Almost reminds me of Kill la Kill or Inferno Cop in that respect. +1. |
ToG25thBaamApr 12, 2014 4:38 AM
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
| I want to slap whoever signed off on the production of this crap. Pure garbage. |
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AsherFischell said: pretentious bs about how their opinion is better than everyone else's mostly, that's what it rattles down to, get your eyes checked b/c you dON'T AGREE WITH ME Literally no one cares. If you don't like the anime then stop fucking talking about it? This is a pretty simple concept. Why would you waste your time sat in the forum of a show you don't like? Do you have nothing better to do than argue with teenagers about your Japanese cartoons? And omg swearing =/= being angry. I'm just done being polite to you since you're stuck in a rut of your own obnoxious opinions. You should try not being so pretentious. Low budget and working with a low budget to make something cool despite it =/= bad animation. A budget doesn't automatically dictate whether it'll be good or not and you don't seem to understand that. Besides, last time I checked, an anime is a TV SHOW, not a piece of art. You're here for a story, not to wank yourself silly over whether or not they wave their arms as much as Dex Dogtective, damn. Then again, you like Higurashi and Blood+ anyway, you obviously don't know what good anime even looks like. (hint: it's nothing like them) |
straggy said: AsherFischell said: pretentious bs about how their opinion is better than everyone else's mostly, that's what it rattles down to, get your eyes checked b/c you dON'T AGREE WITH ME Literally no one cares. If you don't like the anime then stop fucking talking about it? This is a pretty simple concept. Why would you waste your time sat in the forum of a show you don't like? Do you have nothing better to do than argue with teenagers about your Japanese cartoons? And omg swearing =/= being angry. I'm just done being polite to you since you're stuck in a rut of your own obnoxious opinions. You should try not being so pretentious. Low budget and working with a low budget to make something cool despite it =/= bad animation. A budget doesn't automatically dictate whether it'll be good or not and you don't seem to understand that. Besides, last time I checked, an anime is a TV SHOW, not a piece of art. You're here for a story, not to wank yourself silly over whether or not they wave their arms as much as Dex Dogtective, damn. Then again, you like Higurashi and Blood+ anyway, you obviously don't know what good anime even looks like. (hint: it's nothing like them) Ooh, changing my quote field to something I didn't say. Aren't you a clever one? And if literally no one cares, why do you keep responding to me? Also, who said I disliked this anime? Just because something looks bad doesn't mean I automatically dislike the show itself, just the way it looks. I actually liked some of the jokes and character designs. So, you're trying to make make my points look weaker by mentioning shows that I liked on my list. You're assuming an awful lot, don't you think? Let me guess, you thought, "I don't like what this guy's saying, therefore I'll look at his list and pick out something that we disagree on, because nothing says that somebody's wrong about something like bringing in something that's completely unrelated." It's also extremely hypocritical that you're telling me that Higurashi and Blood shouldn't be liked because they don't look good, but you seem to be extremely sensitive in regards to an extremely ugly show that you've only seen a single episode of. You're criticizing me for liking shows because of their stories, but then you immediately say that I should be watching a show for the story, not the artwork. Which is it, then? Make up your mind before you say something. When you make an argument and then state that the opposite is true, they both cancel themselves out. You also ask me if I have nothing better to do than argue when you're doing the exact same thing. You're responding to arguments with your own arguments. I don't know how you didn't notice, but that's arguing. Additionally, you tell me not to be pretentious when you said, " Man, this show is wasted on you people. Just drop it so it can be good riddance." That statement implies that everyone complaining about the show lacks your excellent taste, so you've got no room to be calling anyone else pretentious and saying that I think MY opinion is better than anyone else's when that's exactly what you're doing. Also, don't say that you're, "done being polite" when you weren't being polite in the first place. Finally, anime is technically art. How you can be an anime fan without thinking that is sort of mind boggling, but whatever. You also say that anime fans should just be in it for the story when literally every anime has tons of artwork. So, you think that the artwork isn't a major part of anime shows? Really? THAT'S your argument? Why do you think anime fans watch anime instead of live action? You don't think they're in it for the art at all? Anyways, I'll look forward to your next response loaded to the brim with hypocrisy, childishness and contradictions. Ooh, and hopefully another out of place Food Fight reference. |
| Probably one of the worst shows this season has to offer. I mean the overall art direction is pretty cool and unique, but dude... Is there even any animation or movement in this? This felt like watching a diashow. Horrible. The comedy did not deliver as well. It's quite hard to explain why but those typical anime outbursts and spontaneous moments just felt... wrong and not very impactful. Voice actors didn't do that good of a job either. And it also doesn't help that the main guy feels like a carbon copy of Natsu from Fairy Tail (even has the voice actor), but only somehow worse. Nope / 5 |
Just sit back, and let your tears do the talking as I save you. |
AsherFischell said: yawn This just in, 26 year old man continues to spend his Saturday coming back to the forum of an anime he doesn't like to argue with teenagers and spend his time not actually reading what they say and twisting it, then being surprised that people that like the show keep defending it. Wow, shocking. I already said I don't care. |
straggy said: AsherFischell said: yawn This just in, 26 year old man continues to spend his Saturday coming back to the forum of an anime he doesn't like to argue with teenagers and spend his time not actually reading what they say and twisting it, then being surprised that people that like the show keep defending it. Wow, shocking. I already said I don't care. Once again, if you don't care, stop responding. Speaking of not reading what other people say, you obviously didn't read when I said that I didn't dislike the show as a whole, only the animation and art. I'm glad that you're ignoring your own obvious hypocrisy, though. Have fun being a contradictory hypocrite! |
| Girls, girls, calm your tits. You're both pretty. Enjoying this show so far :) It does remind me of NobuFool, which imo is a good thing (I think way too many people dropped that show too early), except with more boobs. I'm not quite as interested in the MC of this as I am Nobunaga, but he's amusing enough. I'll see how much I like it after we introduce a violent loli tsundere fox-girl to the mix. Violent tsunderes are only worth the payoff in hentai, when you can see them put in their proper place. |
| Anyboy else was here because of Hattori Kiriko? This looks like any other mediocre anime with boobshows with missing links throughout the show, horribly scripted at times that is down right laugable and s little overboard with the comical relief. I can't really expect that much can i? Though i have to admit the artwork is pretty neat comparing to most anime out there but then again theres minimal animation which pretty much explains why. I can't say i really like it neither can i say its so bad till its unwatchable. To me its simply marginal, a little gags here and there and maybe i'm comfortable with "slideshows" anime as i had many experience with it. Regardless its still too early to judge, lets wait and see whats the next few installments are before i can really pass on a full review A little backstory i knew of. Originally Hattori Kirko is a character illustration of the famous Yamashita Shun'ya who has done many artwork adaptations for Kotobukiya, Yamato and Reflect. It was originally from a multimedia project called Enka Oudou Dai Shogun encompassing every aspects of an anime branding. The brains behind this project are the toy makers from Yamato; Yoshizawa Mitsumasa and co-creator, illustrator Yamashita Shun'ya and which the studio comissioned for the animations is Studio Anima in 2009 So simply said, it was meant to be a figurine that made its way into animation. |
IzeApr 12, 2014 7:42 PM
| this show hurts my brain..... literally zero fucks where given by the staff that made this |
| At the first frame I decided to drop it XD |
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