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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- A pretty powerful episode, Iggy obtained a soul since the attack of the autoreivs purposefully infected with the Cognito virus. His love and hatred for Re-l was touching, and so so truthful at the same time. I agree she's quite a bitch sometimes. It was a great ending to a very eventful episode, how Iggy sacrifices his 'life' for Re-l, and in the end even fights with the Cognito virus while he says his last words to her. |
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| I agree that this was a touching and powerful episode. Iggy was pretty scary (seemed so corrupt and crazy), as was the part when Re-l was trapped in the glass capsule |
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| Oh jeez, this was actually episode 13 we're both talking about. Anyway, I liked this episode a lot as well. I was a little disappointed at how it just ended without showing how the doppelganger proxy was defeated by Vincent, but I enjoyed the little development of Vince and Re-l's relationship as well as the other proxy's feelings(?). |
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seita said: I was dissapointed he never named itself, but it's actually quite peculiar how the whole episode was a flashback.Oh jeez, this was actually episode 13 we're both talking about. Anyway, I liked this episode a lot as well. I was a little disappointed at how it just ended without showing how the doppelganger proxy was defeated by Vincent, but I enjoyed the little development of Vince and Re-l's relationship as well as the other proxy's feelings(?). As for episode 13, it's less about Iggy fighting with cogito, but rather him fighting to bring his newfound heart under control. He learned what hate was and much like a scorned lover, he hated Re-l for just ditching him and Vincent for taking her away. In the end, it seems that, unlike Pino, Iggy could never fully control his newfound emotions. So it seems the reason most autoreivs get violent when infected is because they harbor hatred for their masters in some form. |
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| This episode was weird as... |
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| this episode was totally unnecessary |
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| It looked like a crazy nightmare I had many years ago. Interesting episode. |
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| Unequivocally confusing interesting episode with no idea whats happening but love it. Guess its better to watch it over a few times to really understand it. This seems its trying to input some philosophy of life and what urges you to move forward in your life rather than bow down and give up trying to live. Again just love this intellectual 20min psyche trip ride. |
| Wait what... |
makezh22 said: Unequivocally confusing interesting episode with no idea whats happening but love it. Guess its better to watch it over a few times to really understand it. This seems its trying to input some philosophy of life and what urges you to move forward in your life rather than bow down and give up trying to live. Again just love this intellectual 20min psyche trip ride. Boy, do I share the same sentiment with you! This is what drew me to this anime. This is also what I like about this series, it has a high re-watch value and as soon as you start watching it again you'd pick up clues, little details and subtle hints that would help you discover the "mystery" of this show. |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| it was a little confusing at first, but i got the hang of it after pino said there were two of each. next episode seems.... er... well it sounds like some sort of break from all this confusion. |
| I didn't find it boring at all. I loved the first half of the episode especially. They don't tell you there's a shapeshifter going around, and so when the characters are repeating scenes and acting weird, you're like "What the Hell?" Then it dawns on you, and I think it ended up pretty well. You could call this a "filler" episode since it had a stand-alone story and didn't seem to affect the overall plot, but I still liked it. The preview for the next episode was unlike the previews before it. Piques my interest. |
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| Freaky and great all at the same time... I loves this series... |
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| Weird episodeeee~ I love Pino :3 |
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| What a strange episode, and I laughed at the way Re-L knew he was the real Vincent. |
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| That's paranoia! |
| not liking the second half of the series as much as the first so far |
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| OK, that was batshit crazy. |
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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! (your vote) |
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| Ok, what just happened...? xD |
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Zell182 said: Agreed! I picked up on the jist near the end. Re-l said the other vincent had no reflection so i said WTH and all thoughts of the episode drifted out into space. Though it looks like at the end they are finally warming up to each other.OK, that was batshit crazy. |
| Regardless what the others are saying i loved this :D And Re-l seems to be getting better not much of a bitch at least in this episode, i think this was good in terms of character development. |
| Of all the incomprehensible plots... |
| If it wasn't for Pino both of them would be dead! I wouldn't eat Pino's cooking yet, if in fact it could be called her "cooking" at all! LOL |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| Confusing episode O_O |
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unclesnapple said: I didn't find it boring at all. I loved the first half of the episode especially. They don't tell you there's a shapeshifter going around, and so when the characters are repeating scenes and acting weird, you're like "What the Hell?" Then it dawns on you, and I think it ended up pretty well. You could call this a "filler" episode since it had a stand-alone story and didn't seem to affect the overall plot, but I still liked it. The preview for the next episode was unlike the previews before it. Piques my interest. This. Had to admit it was really confusing til Pino said that there were two Vincents. Thought I skipped an episode coz the beginning dialogues doesn't seem to connect what happened previously. lol |
| Fu**ing confusing...So there is another Vincent which got defeated...Was it the real Vincent or the other one which was the proxy,....I understood that both were proxies |
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| Wow, favourite episode so far. It was probably because of the mysterious and foreboding atmosphere. I caught on right away that there were doppelgangers because I knew that something was off in that abandoned city. It was rather weird and rushed how they just left, though. What happened to the proxy? I don't think they killed it. |
| Holy shit I was watching this episode stoned and BLEW MY MIND wtf just happened.......... |
itsvero said: Wow, favourite episode so far. It was probably because of the mysterious and foreboding atmosphere. I caught on right away that there were doppelgangers because I knew that something was off in that abandoned city. It was rather weird and rushed how they just left, though. What happened to the proxy? I don't think they killed it. The Proxy got killed by Vincent (Ergo Proxy) when they both sunk in the lake. If you notice you will see that blue light emitting form the lake as the result of Ergo Proxy's death stare, similar to how he killed the first two. |
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| Weird episode, all that paranoia. |
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Zell182 said: OK, that was batshit crazy. Totally XD but it was awesome. I knew there was one shapeshifter that kept changing into Vincent and Re-l, but it seemed like there were two? o_O I was wondering why the ginger ale part kind of repeated twice, and then how Vincent fell from the roof yet was gone the next second. That was very un-Vincent like. But wow all the psychological stuff in this episode @_@ this anime never ceases to give me headaches. I probably need to watch this again to understand it fully. |
| Whoa, who left the confusion generator running? That scene where Vincent kills Re-l really got me, until I realized Pino probably wouldn't react like that since she doesn't seem to like Re-l much... Maybe. It's a pity we didn't get to see the shapeshifter's true form, or hear it's name. |
| It was boring or maybe I was expecting so much more from this serie, until now I haven't found anything cool on it, besides Re-l... |
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| Great episode again. Love the atmosphere. |
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| Cool episode. It was really confusing and mindf**k as hell but still that doesn't beat the library episode. :D Anyway, I think the next episode is another mindf**k. XD |
| "Everyone wears their own panties inside their heart" - Kousaku Hata |
| Great episode. I loved the first half with the 2 of each characters and then when Pino does the reveal it all makes sense. The last 2 episodes have been about fleshing out and developing Re-L and Vincent. It might be extremely important to the future of the trip their little "family" is doing. I wonder when we'll see some of waht's happening back in Romdo. I'm sure Raul is scheming something. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| hmmm, decent episode. Not as good as others though. I do like the idea of the proxy changing to be accepted and basically demonstrating and comparing past and present vince. The same scenario happening again made me think about vince as well, as in what is the right choice that he should make? contemplating if he should kill lil and the consequences of doing so, i.e. being alone, pino leaving him. I guess it also shows vince how he isn't alone anymore, again comparing him to past vince. Pretty roundabout way of doing so, but whatever, i do like it this way :P i do hope the series doesnt just completely do this every episode though >.> Dem thoughts of suicide :P |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| Great episode, I was confused as hell the first half but realized what was going on eventually. Nice to see Re-L starting to get along with Vincent a little better at the end. |
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| before i clicked on there were clones, i was looking at my screen thinking the player had rewound itself and i was watching the same scene... i was like 'wait... what... im sure i've seen this.... oh.. oh wait!' good episode, although confuzzling! |
| Hrmmm, this episode kind of seemed like a filler, but assuming it will pick up from here on out . . . Too bad they couldn't find some other type of ship or something. |
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