| I didnt notice it till a friend pointed it out but Sorachi has a really tragic look on couples in this series. Outside of the ship teases for gintoki and his love interest(s) anyone else in this series has: A: unrequited love(played for laughs mostly) B: 1 of the 2 lovers die C: both of them die. The latter 2 more than anything I mean think about it I guess Sorach is a fan of tragedies, granted anyone could tell that from watching any of this show's serious arcs. |
JizzyHitlerMar 24, 2013 6:51 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Sophilia said: Oh no sorachi does a fantastic job on tragedies. Hes never made me cry but many deaths have made me misty eyed. Though i still think the saddest death in the series wasHe does a great job on it though. I've cried to each and every one of these, and he makes it especially dramatic too, which I love. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Well yeah, i noticed how there arent any ongoing romantic relationships on the show. It's either played for laughs (Sacchan x Gin,) ends tragically (Toshi x Mitsuba) or is simply hinted at (Tsukky x Gin.) Only one i can think of is Hasegawa-san who DOES have a wife but she's pretty much disowned him by this point for being a Madao xD I guess Sorachi just doesn't care about that stuff or he cant find a good way of writing it in... Gintama needs at least ONE official couple lol |
who_dat_ninjaMar 24, 2013 8:26 AM
SteampunkDalek said: Gintoki and tsukuyo may be the closest we will ever get to that. Then again gintama track record could hint that tsukuyo will end up dead by the end of this series but i dont know if sorach is really up for killing off any of the major recurring characters and i really hope he doesnt cause that would ruin alot of the comedy even if they die at the end of the series, like if hijikata dies if you ever look up a funny clip involving him you wont find it as funny cause youl just be reminded that character diesWell yeah, i noticed how there arent any ongoing romantic relationships on the show. It's either played for laughs (Sacchan x Gin,) ends tragically (Toshi x Mitsuba) or is simply hinted at (Tsukky x Gin.) Only one i can think of is Hasegawa-san who DOES have a wife but she's pretty much disowned him by this point for being a Madao xD I guess Sorachi just doesn't care about that stuff or he cant find a good way of writing it in... Gintama needs at least ONE official couple lol |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
SteampunkDalek said: I guess Sorachi just doesn't care about that stuff or he cant find a good way of writing it in... Gintama needs at least ONE official couple lol I'm not saying I don't ship characters here but I must be one of the few ones that doesn't want an official couple. If anything happens it happens and if it doesn't then that's fine too. |
parfaited said: I'd be severely disappointed if tsukuyo and gintoki's relationship didnt get any resolution. I dont see why it wouldnt especially seeing how much focus its been given in serious arcs.SteampunkDalek said: I guess Sorachi just doesn't care about that stuff or he cant find a good way of writing it in... Gintama needs at least ONE official couple lol If anything happens it happens and if it doesn't then that's fine too. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Is there any proofs of especial relationship Tsuki with Gin? Sorry for offtop maybe, but I don't think they will somehow develop. It looks like the main plot is connected with Gintoki's teacher. I guess final arcs will be not about romance but about politic, government, bushido etc. I don't think Sorachi will ever ship Gintoki with somedody. |
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Banu02 said: The entire red spider arc and multiple episodes past that as well as parts of the ikkou kissei arc.Is there any proofs of especial relationship Tsuki with Gin? Also what makes you think romance needs to be focused on to happen? Romance is basically a sub genre that can be added into anything but rarely can ever be focused on as a main plotpoint. It can be buts its rare and even more rare that it actually works. The only thing i can think of that was romance as the main plot that wasnt complete and utter shit is this http://myanimelist.net/manga/46282/Chikan_Otoko |
JizzyHitlerMar 24, 2013 11:44 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Yeah, that pairing was obvious at those arcs, but now it is nothing more than object of jokes. Tsuki became typical tsundere, as Saa-chan - stalker. Imho Sorachi add her just for increase of interest. At least for me GinXTsuki doesn't look like canon couple. |
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Candor said: Banu02 said: And after that Gintoki will return, marry Tsukuyo, and live with her happily ever after.Is there any proofs of especial relationship Tsuki with Gin? Sorry for offtop maybe, but I don't think they will somehow develop. It looks like the main plot is connected with Gintoki's teacher. I guess final arcs will be not about romance but about politic, government, bushido etc. How is that? That can be of course, but doesn't normal Yorozuya life look more veritable? The end of series doesn;t mean end of Yorozuya. Married Gin... Honestly I just can't imagine that. |
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Banu02 said: Well no shit it sbeing used as a joke, its gintama, anything in serious arcs is valid joke material. In the 2 serious arcs she appeared in there were a bunch of ship teases, seeing how 1 of them was very recent i doubt you can write this off as just a joke. Separate comedy and seirous gintama when looking at characters cause they act much differently depending on the tone. Example gintoki will betray his friends and use them as a human shields in comedy arcs, in serious arcs he will sacrifice himself to help them.Yeah, that pairing was obvious at those arcs, but now it is nothing more than object of jokes. Tsuki became typical tsundere, as Saa-chan - stalker. Imho Sorachi add her just for increase of interest. At least for me GinXTsuki doesn't look like canon couple. Can we stop this discussion, its completely derailing it and has no real tie to the actual topic. Jus tleave it at this, tsukuyo is a potential love interest, whether that will go through is up to sorachi for whenever he decided to end it which wont happen for a long time. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Banu02 said: The entire red spider arc and multiple episodes past that as well as parts of the ikkou kissei arc.Is there any proofs of especial relationship Tsuki with Gin? Also what makes you think romance needs to be focused on to happen? Romance is basically a sub genre that can be added into anything but rarely can ever be focused on as a main plotpoint. It can be buts its rare and even more rare that it actually works. The only thing i can think of that was romance as the main plot that wasnt complete and utter shit is this http://myanimelist.net/manga/46282/Chikan_Otoko I don't speak about focusing on romance in every title with romance. I just don't think it will work on Gintama |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Banu02 said: Well no shit it sbeing used as a joke, its gintama, anything in serious arcs is valid joke material. In the 2 serious arcs she appeared in there were a bunch of ship teases, seeing how 1 of them was very recent i doubt you can write this off as just a joke. Separate comedy and seirous gintama when looking at characters cause they act much differently depending on the tone. Example gintoki will betray his friends and use them as a human shields in comedy arcs, in serious arcs he will sacrifice himself to help them.Yeah, that pairing was obvious at those arcs, but now it is nothing more than object of jokes. Tsuki became typical tsundere, as Saa-chan - stalker. Imho Sorachi add her just for increase of interest. At least for me GinXTsuki doesn't look like canon couple. Can we stop this discussion, its completely derailing it and has no real tie to the actual topic. Jus tleave it at this, tsukuyo is a potential love interest, whether that will go through is up to sorachi for whenever he decided to end it which wont happen for a long time. Ok. it's really offtop. |
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Hisame said: have no clue who those are but i did say MOST not allCan we count Jurota and Azumi as a romantic couple? They didn't die and it wasn't a unrequited love at the end. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| tsukuyo won't die, any of main characters won't die in this comedy show (maybe except takasugi…), i'm pretty sure about that! gin and tsukuyo were meant for each other that obviously hinted by the story but they probably not being together eventually because yorozuya (three people and one dog) lasts forever. |
Demonspeed said: I think his relationship which Tsukuyo will stay as it is.Gintoki is one of the male characters who NEVER really shown signs of love,except for Ketsuno. -Hijikata loved Mitsuba -Kondo loves Otae -Katsura loves Ikumatsu -Madao loves his wife Tsukki and other girls have no chance IMO.But,Sorachi can do anything. gin-san is just a fan of ketsuno, that's different from romantic love... and yes in gintama's world, the present is the future, any romance won't develop. all of them will stay as existing state of affairs for ever. (even though ikumatsu was katsura's real wife in history!) |
Hisame said: Can we count Jurota and Azumi as a romantic couple? They didn't die and it wasn't a unrequited love at the end. I'm sorry but…who are jurota and azumi?? |
Silver_Wave said: Remember Agomi? The okama with the long chin? That's Azumi. And Juurota is a host from Takamagahara. There's a half episode focused on them both; I can't remember much, but it was funny as hell. I think Azumi disguised as a host during that ep.Hisame said: Can we count Jurota and Azumi as a romantic couple? They didn't die and it wasn't a unrequited love at the end. I'm sorry but…who are jurota and azumi?? Still, a minor couple. Them being together does not say much about Sorachi's intentions for the main cast's romance. Personally, I doubt Sorachi takes romance seriously; if it isn't tragic or for the lulz, then it's just pairing fanservice and the pairings involved still won't be canon, most likely. |
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| you have pretty much romantic happy couples also O.o it's not true that all are tragedy outcome ~ and it's better this way cause it's not stupid over romantic usual atmosphere. cause love can be really painful sometimes I mean tragical and that other half can die anytime, but you don't need to show tears to everyone you can just stuff that person important to your heart and go with life further.. also I like it xD since I shipp from hetero pairings only Okita x Kagura and Otae x Kondou ^^ Gintoki is for Hijikata only they are just perfect match so for me it's ok *o* ~ |
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| i got slight hint for ginxtae at the last obi1-arc... and if you think, you want to keep yorozuya 4ever, than ginxtae is the best option.. otae is shinpachi's older sister, and gintoki also like older brother for him. and even though kagura calls otae as anego, i think she obey her more than it it's almost like otae is her mother... (while gintoki is her father in the earth) and, otae has thought both of them (3 with gintoki) as her family already... otae cares for gintoki when he was injured at benizakura-arc (she look so mature and understand him so much, the touching scene was when they passed each other under rain) if you think that there are so much hint for ginxtsuki, i personally thought that ginxtae also got much attention... but since there is big different personality between them (tsukuyo is tsundere, while otae is yandere), it's look like that tsuki romance plot more interesting. just my own rumbling... peace :) |
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GuyFreakz said: i got slight hint for ginxtae at the last obi1-arc... and if you think, you want to keep yorozuya 4ever, than ginxtae is the best option.. otae is shinpachi's older sister, and gintoki also like older brother for him. and even though kagura calls otae as anego, i think she obey her more than it it's almost like otae is her mother... (while gintoki is her father in the earth) and, otae has thought both of them (3 with gintoki) as her family already... otae cares for gintoki when he was injured at benizakura-arc (she look so mature and understand him so much, the touching scene was when they passed each other under rain) if you think that there are so much hint for ginxtsuki, i personally thought that ginxtae also got much attention... but since there is big different personality between them (tsukuyo is tsundere, while otae is yandere), it's look like that tsuki romance plot more interesting. just my own rumbling... peace :) If your going to revive a dead thread at least reply with something relevant to the thread this isnt a thread about who you ship or why you think it, we dont need people coming in trying to defend ships or other bullshit especially since this show doesnt even focus on it outside of maybe the red spider arc......which was 90+ episodes ago |
JizzyHitlerApr 20, 2013 3:38 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
edwd2 said: Candor said: Watashi said: What's more boring than a story about successful love? ^ What he said. ^This. Just keeping this word of truth heard. |
| not even in love does he enjoy tragedies. like that episode with the dog alien thing and owner trying to outlive each other so the other doesn't have to die alone for the record i just started crying when writing that^ |
JizzyHitler said: Hisame said: have no clue who those are but i did say MOST not allCan we count Jurota and Azumi as a romantic couple? They didn't die and it wasn't a unrequited love at the end. the tranny and the male host |
Demonspeed said: I think his relationship which Tsukuyo will stay as it is.Gintoki is one of the male characters who NEVER really shown signs of love,except for Ketsuno. -Hijikata loved Mitsuba -Kondo loves Otae -Katsura loves Ikumatsu -Madao loves his wife Tsukki and other girls have no chance IMO.But,Sorachi can do anything. Lol please, Ketsuno Ana is just a joke material. Come on, who can take a character whose name is literally 'asshole' seriously? Edit: Just realized I replied to a one year old post. Lol. |
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JizzyHitler said: Which death do you think is the saddest now (no manga spoilers)?Sophilia said: Oh no sorachi does a fantastic job on tragedies. Hes never made me cry but many deaths have made me misty eyed. Though i still think the saddest death in the series wasHe does a great job on it though. I've cried to each and every one of these, and he makes it especially dramatic too, which I love. |
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