True Tears Epilogue Episode 1 Discussion

Apr 1, 2010 4:20 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I definitely did not expect this.
Of course, a sole three minutes.. but not just.. this.

The song was lovely, though. Eufonius really is suited for these kind of shows. Song sans epilogue over here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10215351

7/10 because it's True Tears. And Noe. But.. I'm disappointed.

Apr 1, 2010 4:33 AM

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And why was Hiromi crying?

I had a completely different take on the events

I hate ambiguous endings like this

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Apr 1, 2010 4:58 AM

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-OJ- said:
And why was Hiromi crying?

I had a completely different take on the events

I hate ambiguous endings like this

This ending is a bitch, though.

Apr 1, 2010 6:29 AM

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So, we're the one who'll interpret what happened...
It would be more satisfying if there was dialogue though.
I was (quite) expecting that this three-minute would be a narration. Something like, a little time skip after everything. And this is what we get. The music was pretty though.

Why was Hiromi crying? It's a mystery to me.

Apr 1, 2010 9:51 AM

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It was meh, but it did feel satisfying in a weird kinda way.

7/10

Wait, did Noe actually jump? o___o

Apr 2, 2010 1:24 AM

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Judging what they showed. This happened right before the ending epilogue they had in the last episode. Seeing as Noe's hair was shorter in this one, she still wasn't friends with the two girls, etc etc. 7/10 though I guess.

Apr 5, 2010 7:14 PM

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Gradation said:
Judging what they showed. This happened right before the ending epilogue they had in the last episode. Seeing as Noe's hair was shorter in this one, she still wasn't friends with the two girls, etc etc. 7/10 though I guess.

I agree with this. So Noe didn't jump because the real ending is still the original one with her crying in front of the grave.

Apr 7, 2010 9:20 PM

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mmm where did you guys see this?

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Apr 8, 2010 5:01 AM

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mmm where did you guys see this?

Look for some Blu-ray rips on tokyotosho.info and download ep.13 or 14 (they're the same). Watch the last 3 or so minutes of the episode. The end.

Apr 12, 2010 7:54 AM

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Thank you.

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Apr 12, 2010 3:04 PM

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5/10 from me... love the insert song but everything else is no where near my expectation

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Apr 12, 2010 8:45 PM

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-OJ- said:
And why was Hiromi crying?

I had a completely different take on the events

I hate ambiguous endings like this

I LOL at the first assumed ending :)
Since this is Noe we're talking about, I think there is the possibility of her jumping :)

Anyone care to explain why Shin-chan and lovely Hiromi walk separately by the beach instead of holding hands etc? And they didn't look too happy either..maybe our protagonist want a harem ending? :) Joking :P

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Apr 19, 2010 1:58 AM

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I don't remember the series much....it was pretty good I think. I remember that about 3 girls loved the main guy and he ended up choosing the girl, who was living with him because her parents died. I remember, his mother being kinda "evil" but she had reasons because of her husband being with the girl's mother (who is dead I presume)......basically she was holding a grudge and caused pain for the girl but after realising the main girl is in the same exact position as her with son and Now forming a love triangle/polygon....the mother started helping the girl.

This 3 minute no-dialogue ending is meant to make more sense if you listened to the Drama CD but since I haven't, I didn't really get this musical epilogue and on top of not really remembering the actual series. This extra epilogue to me....came 2 years too late. >>

I'm giving this a rating of 7/10. The song was beautiful though. =)

May 15, 2010 12:11 PM

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This looks more like a 3 minute preview for another series, rather than an epilogue. I'll keep my fingers crossed!

May 28, 2010 5:57 PM

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This extended ending definitely seems to be a continuous set of scenes showing the time skip between Shinichiro's confession and the end where Noe gets her tears back. Consider the hair length as a subtle hint, but the biggest hints are the uniforms (the post-credits ending is still using winter approved coats and the pre-credits ending is using spring's fashion catalogue as well as cherry blossoms falling) and the fact that Noe is running from the girls that end up being her friends. This is my interpretation of the events that unfolded.

I think the lonely-looking walk on the beach was part of Hiromi's bad personality still evident, but slowly dissipating and culminating into honest tears (the iya-response to Shinichiro's dating-request in that bamboo forest). I kinda read more into this than was probably intended, since I was looking at the pattern of wavering footprints in the sand, where Hiromi's deviates way more than Shinichiro's. As a side note, the only hand-holding in the whole series was Aiko and Miyokichi, really. Given there was one scene of Shinichiro holding hands with Hiromi in the very beginning as kids... however, I feel like the lack of hand-holding wasn't really surprising to me (especially since Shinichiro's whole family seems hella old-fashioned; I think it’s fairly common for a wife to walk behind her husband in many traditional cultures). I actually feel as if this walking scene and the bus stop scene was about Shinichiro explaining things properly and Hiromi finally reciprocating properly.

I didn't really think of anything about Aiko's away-glance while she was working with Miyokichi since she didn't show happiness or sadness with her brow (so that was the most ambiguous thing). However, it is still possible that Aiko (at this point, if we are still assuming this scene is before the pre-credits ending) is not sure whether asking for Miyokichi's help and starting over as a friend is a cruel thing or not.

As far as I'm concerned, Shinichiro entering Aiko's shop was the resolution of all the bad atmosphere between them as friends. Which is why in the next scene...

I think that Miyokichi's confrontation with Shinichiro was a mirror to Tomoyo's on-court play confrontation with Hiromi. Since these are the main support characters that have tried to push Hiromi and Shinichiro together since the beginning. Miyokichi is probably mad that Shinichiro is still hanging around the chicken coop and Tomoyo's is mad about Hiromi's hesitation (the basketball game post-credits is against the blue-jersey Hotarugawa team [written on the scoreboard as the team ahead Mugiha, 33-22], while the team during the pre-credits ending just red-orange practice jerseys on-top of Mugiha jerseys). Hiromi's basketball performance seems to always correlate to Shinichiro, so the fact that she's doing better after than before is a sign.

I feel that the scene of Aiko dragging Shinichiro to the temple had something to do with how Miyokichi confessed his love there (and I take it as a scene of starting completely over or rather, getting Shinichiro's approval).

Noe running away is probably just part of her personality. Probably something would be revealed in her drama CD. However, I always got a kind of Luna Lovegood kind of vibe from her from the start, so she probably thinks those girls were trying to tease her.

For some reason, I had a strange thought as I watched Hiromi's tears scene, with the spliced in scenes of Noe's jump and the basketball in mid-flight. It was as if they were some sort of kindred spirits sort of thing. I also feel that this has something to do with the 'transferring of tears' motif they were talking about the whole series. I totally think this is more artistic or abstract than the rest of this extended ending; since both heroines get what they want during the same series of spliced frames.

In any case, it seemed (according to Shinichiro's expression) that he was surprised and didn't know why Hiromi was crying, but she shook it off and smiled (I'm pretty sure it had more to do with happiness than sadness). I think this really had to do with the tear transfer stuff or to do with the last line that Shinichiro says before the credits (something akin to that if you think of someone dear to you, the tears will flow) or the idea of 'beautiful tears'. And she leaned in, which I assumed was for a kiss (slightly open mouth).

Hiromi gets her man, and Noe gets her wish (flight and the following tears). Aiko moves on. The only person who probably gets nothing is Jun, that incestuous bastard.

Though the Drama CD may explain it, I feel like this was all mostly artistic in showing how each character had found some sort of resolve and melds with the pre-credits ending. I am usually a fairly cynical person, so I found it strange that other people found this ending to be bad (I do see how that can happen quite easily with ambiguous endings).

It’s all very subtle and I think if you were Japanese, it’d make even more sense, since much of the themes in this anime are about hesitation, honesty, and doing things properly (i.e., how many times did you hear the Japanese word ‘chanto’ prior to some verb… which means to do/say/act something properly/perfectly), which are very common issues that Japanese media deals with (it’s present here but not always in-your-face, but it’s very common in today’s Japanese media… maybe due to growing hikikomori culture concerns). Nothing happens fast in this series, so the extended ending perfectly depicts the continuous, long road to where everyone gets what they want.

Sorry for the long post, but I was originally confused about the ending (but strangely satisfied). However, the more I wrote, the more I could understand why. Hope you guys share more of your thoughts, too!

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Jun 3, 2010 6:16 PM

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Noe <3

Other than that, I didn't understand much. The animation was nice though, and so was the song.

Jun 26, 2010 3:37 AM

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oh wow, 3 minutes~

unsatisfied so, 6/10

Jul 18, 2010 11:13 PM

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I'll be honest, this just straight up pissed me off.

This gave no more info than in the ending of the last episode and just made things even more vague and unclear.

One thing's for sure though: Noe is fucking insane...

1/10 (I would give it a 0, but the music was kinda nice)

Jul 31, 2010 6:19 PM

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wow what was this :-)

7/10 for the pretty music and HD :D

Sayonara,papa!

"Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart."
~Athena Glory,Aria

"Whatever happens,happens"
~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop)

Aug 24, 2010 5:00 PM

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is it me or The ending was rather confusing? i arledy hate the fact that Noe got dumped for Hiromi and it hs no Sense as for me when a girl give you the strenght to keep going should be the right one, does she actually Jump down : (?

Apr 23, 2011 2:57 PM

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I re-raged, just reminded me that he's a dick for picking the wrong girl. Anyway, 5/10 for pretty music and animation.

fuck everything and rumble

May 10, 2011 6:48 AM

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does anyone know the name of the song played during the epilogue?

Sep 10, 2011 3:52 PM

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Where are you people watching it???? I can't find it anywhere.

Sep 12, 2011 12:30 AM

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I believe it is tacked on to the last few minutes of episode 13 in THORA's release.

Feb 4, 2012 7:33 AM

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At first I thought Noe was going to be sat alone eating, and she seems quite content even being with Jibeta anyway. It's nice to see she's with friends.

And about Hiromi crying, I read that she is seen crying due to feeling sorry for Noe, and what she must be feeling inside.

I feel quite happy about this, really. I have already accepted Noe isn't with Shin so it's not like there's anything for me to dislike about this, if anything, I just still feel sorry for Noe. Although she has friends, she just seems lonely.

May 7, 2012 10:57 PM

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I was kind of upset after watching this. I was expecting to see more of Shin and Hiromi together, but I guess not. Instead I got Noe scenes to rerage me rather than calming romance with music.

Oct 27, 2012 4:22 PM

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KazukiUchiha said:
Where are you people watching it???? I can't find it anywhere.

Its on youtube. Just google true tears epilogue.

Feb 1, 2013 5:34 PM

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Rather dissapointing, liked the song though.
Wanted some closure Noe but meh *shrugs*

Feb 6, 2013 4:46 AM

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This should really be called 'True Tears Postscript'--Doesn't sound as appealing though does it?

Apr 10, 2013 6:20 PM

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Nice music and a nice look on how their lives went after the series sad that they didn't show more!

Jun 9, 2013 10:59 AM

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Beautiful show, made me shed tears of happiness!

...is what I'd say if Noe won at the end. But choosing Hiromi instead? The fucking chicken has more personality than that bland girl. Fuck it, 5/10 because Noe was in the show.

The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one. - Albert Einstein

Jun 28, 2013 2:18 AM

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Yeah I just finished watching this series. Made me wanna tear up. Ending was kinda hard to interpret since I was guessing confused on whats going on.

Overall the series was pretty good

Feb 19, 2014 11:31 AM

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I kinda felt happy for Noe after watching this, she has new friends after all but still I'm rooting for Shinichiro x Noe pair. I'm really happy the way Miyokichi x Aiko pair turned out by far the best pair in the series ^_^

Apr 28, 2014 1:59 PM

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Didn't see anyone mention this, but the epilogue is actually voiced in a drama CD. Though, I don't think it has been translated. But what I can tell from Aiko's section...

I don't have the other two sections of the drama CD, yet (not enough people distributing), but figured that someone would look back on this thread and wonder what the hell happened in the un-voiced epilogue. Just had a ping of nostalgia, so I came back here, haha.

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May 3, 2014 3:32 PM

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What happen to Noe.? T__T

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Nov 13, 2014 7:59 PM

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as a person who just marathon-ed True Tears and wanted an explanation for that audio-less epilogue...

credits to pdshingo over at the animesuki forums, his english isn't very good so use your best brain power and put two and two together.

pdshingo explains Noe's drama cd/epilogue ending
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3153584#post3153584

pdshingo explains Ai-chan's drama cd/epilogue ending
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3174173&postcount=135
(Ai-chan's translated cd drama is on youtube, search for "true tears when the snow melts")

pdshingo explains Hiromi's drama cd/epilogue ending
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3179484&postcount=137

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Nov 13, 2014 8:03 PM

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this wasn't the real ending, it was still in episode 13 of the series (the credit scene)

Nov 13, 2014 8:17 PM

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pretty good wrap-up for everybody;

- Noe "moves on" and makes new friends, though I wonder what happens to her when Jun goes to Tokyo?

- Ai-chan and Nobuse rekindle their relationship

- Hiromi becomes vice captain of the basketball team, has a new found respect for Noe, develops a daughter/mother in-law relationship with Shin's mother, not much detail on their relationship but it can be concluded that her and Shin is gonna be alright

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Apr 21, 2015 9:56 AM

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Perfect

Oct 24, 2015 6:34 AM

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zAKai said:
Didn't see anyone mention this, but the epilogue is actually voiced in a drama CD. Though, I don't think it has been translated. But what I can tell from Aiko's section...

I don't have the other two sections of the drama CD, yet (not enough people distributing), but figured that someone would look back on this thread and wonder what the hell happened in the un-voiced epilogue. Just had a ping of nostalgia, so I came back here, haha.

Too much info there lol.

Nov 4, 2015 10:20 PM

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Nice music though. <3

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Nov 4, 2015 10:59 PM

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Nice music though. <3

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Nice music though. <3

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Mar 18, 2016 10:27 AM

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LOOL, the THORA version included this epilogue right after the credits so I was watching, not knowing it was an added content. I will rate it the same as the series, since, it was everything together than made me gave it a 8.5.
(would I had been very pissed if I was in the OP situation)

May 24, 2016 4:46 PM

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The music was nice. There wasn't really anything new with the follow up.

Dec 30, 2016 4:46 AM

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Saw it as part of episode 13 but judging from the scenes this is probably before the actual ending of the final episode so not really an epilogue.
xbobx explained it in his review.

Jan 29, 2019 9:28 AM

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Well, I noticed that the episode is 27 minutes long, so I assumed something extra was in the episode, and we had this... Well, the song was neat, I guess

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divine youth, full of joy! kekeke

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