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dashiawia said: This show is kinda going downhill... I find it incredibly stupid how the humans are fighting against each other when the Betas are still lurking out there. You'd think they would normally cooperate at a time like this, instead of fighting among themselves like morons. It's completely illogical, not to mention unrealistic. Silly bitch, aliens do not stop humans from fighting each other. What show have you been watching this entire time. There has been personal interest in this entire anime from the damn start Russians bombing and sacrificing there own people so that they could acquire that weapon. Even in the soviet union there is infighting they dont life the Russians since they treat them like shit but they have no choice but to fight for them. Dude kill yourself, like seriously this comment was dumb as shit. |
| Intense episode. Yui rules as always. Love the ED! |
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NickyCharisma said: A Visual Novel is basely a "Game" and a "Novel" pretty much in one. You read off your computer screen, go through character routes and complete them. Some of them even have Mini Arcade games, some have other stuff etc. For example I've been playing Little Busters Visual Novel and I'm like 35 Hrs into it with only 3/8 Completed. Tons of reading. |
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Zee530 said: After this ep, i'm now rooting for the betas to destroy humanity I totally seconded this. It will be freaking hilarious. Just when these humans fighting between themselves, the BETAs would sprout out from the ground like mad, and put an end to all of them. The ending would be the huge BETA standing on top of a mountain on human corpses, smirking like a boss. |
dashiawia said: This show is kinda going downhill... I find it incredibly stupid how the humans are fighting against each other when the Betas are still lurking out there. You'd think they would normally cooperate at a time like this, instead of fighting among themselves like morons. It's completely illogical, not to mention unrealistic. Yes beacause humans that are dying of starvation totally act rationally right? |
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| Shit just got real but with not many episodes left. OP and ED are nice, like them more than the previouse ones. |
| Someone explain to me why they changed the OP/ED with only 4 episodes left. Natalie got pwned; I actually lol'd when she got shot because she's a moron for thinking that everyone going to cooperate. Also with 4 episodes left? I highly doubt they can end the series, will there be a season 2? |
TyrelNov 26, 2012 4:45 PM
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DarthVantos said: dashiawia said: This show is kinda going downhill... I find it incredibly stupid how the humans are fighting against each other when the Betas are still lurking out there. You'd think they would normally cooperate at a time like this, instead of fighting among themselves like morons. It's completely illogical, not to mention unrealistic. Silly bitch, aliens do not stop humans from fighting each other. What show have you been watching this entire time. There has been personal interest in this entire anime from the damn start Russians bombing and sacrificing there own people so that they could acquire that weapon. Even in the soviet union there is infighting they dont life the Russians since they treat them like shit but they have no choice but to fight for them. Dude kill yourself, like seriously this comment was dumb as shit. That doesn't make it any more realistic. You can argue that humans do dumb things since they're selfish. But fighting among each other when the planet is on the brink of destruction from extraterrestrial life forms is simply retarded. Think about the situation first before insulting someone, it just makes you look immature. |
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dashiawia said: That doesn't make it any more realistic. You can argue that humans do dumb things since they're selfish. But fighting among each other when the planet is on the brink of destruction from extraterrestrial life forms is simply retarded. Think about the situation first before insulting someone, it just makes you look immature. While his comment lacked sophistication I agree that your comment was quite silly. Here you are talking about realism when you seem to believe that when an alien force threatens our world that we will all come together, forget racism, greed, personal interest, etc and everything will be super happy and awesome...are you serious? This is a world on the brink of destruction. There's not enough food to go around to play Samaritan anymore. So maybe that food would go to the military higher ups and soldiers instead of the starving masses. Maybe the starving masses might not be cool with this. Maybe someone might be thinking of what happens when the BETA are gone and planning a nice little takeover for the sake of "restoring world order" Honestly if you think everything will be roses once aliens attack then forgive me but you truly are an idiot. |
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AidanAK47 said: While his comment lacked sophistication I agree that your comment was quite silly. Here you are talking about realism when you seem to believe that when an alien force threatens our world that we will all come together, forget racism, greed, personal interest, etc and everything will be super happy and awesome...are you serious? This is a world on the brink of destruction. There's not enough food to go around to play Samaritan anymore. So maybe that food would go to the military higher ups and soldiers instead of the starving masses. Maybe the starving masses might not be cool with this. Maybe someone might be thinking of what happens when the BETA are gone and planning a nice little takeover for the sake of "restoring world order" Honestly if you think everything will be roses once aliens attack then forgive me but you truly are an idiot. I acknowledge that there will inevitably be conflicts within the human race. I never said people will magically forget their differences and make love/peace. It's obviously not that simple. However, I am under the belief that when mankind is faced with an even bigger threat than themselves, they will prioritize fighting against the new threat, and at least temporarily cooperate. With the way things are going in the anime, it's like they have forgotten about the imminent presence of the BETA. That's my biggest gripe about the anime. The realism part I mentioned earlier has more to do with not showing the conflict between the biggest threat with mankind, rather than the humans fighting among themselves. Once again, I'm not saying it's unrealistic for rebels to exist or that there shouldn't be any kinds of conflict among humans. Perhaps I should have worded my previous statement better. |
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NickyCharisma said: welcome to MuvLuv where everyone can, and most likely WILL, dieIf you kill off a love interest... I will punch somebody on the people STILL whining on the "Why wont they take the BETA" act. THIS IS A SIDE-STORY, the problems faced here are just part of the, already huge, MuvLuverse, go read the VNS if you're that eagerly. |
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onesangheili said: Therein is the flaw others see in your view. Your belief, not the world at large's. Well, I don't expect you or anyone else to agree with me. But that's what I really think. Since there hasn't been a world crisis on the scale of alien invasion, can anyone really say for certain mankind won't take this time to cooperate and work towards eliminating a common enemy? Ignoring this, my main complaint is that this show has lost track of where it's going. Last time I checked, it was about to show Yuuya's team confront Leon's team in combat. Yet instead, we're getting this new conflict that literally just came out of nowhere. |
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pilipino101 said: *Facepalm* Really...? With 3 episodes left, all of a sudden, ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE?! Looks like the franchise is trying save its ass from being a totally mundane harem and trying to get itself back to "The world in chaos" but not because of BETAs but because of other humans? -_-;;;; This series..... Oh well, I liked the blood and gore and stuff. Oh, and bye bye Natalie the bartender! and to be first -- BOOOOOOOM HEADSHOT! 4 Episodes left.... |
dashiawia said: This show is kinda going downhill... I find it incredibly stupid how the humans are fighting against each other when the Betas are still lurking out there. You'd think they would normally cooperate at a time like this, instead of fighting among themselves like morons. It's completely illogical, not to mention unrealistic. What if I told you that (WARNING! Muv-Luv Unlimited (the prequel before Muv-Luv Alternative) spoiler, read at your own risk!) the "American plan" that the bartender girl going to talk about is PROBABLY going to include Even I may join the resistance group if I were told that (in their position) and I'm not a goddamnit Eishi that have some kind of power to change the world with "the obvious way", defeating the BETA... ...wait, even nobody in this series have any power to do that. Anyway, people should remember that : 1. This world is still under some kind of Cold War mentality where "world peace between countries" view haven't been established yet. 2. This world have been fighting for almost 30 years (world war lasted for less than ten years and see how many of humanity effected by that). There are many social factors that differ with our current world, and they differ among different countries (Eurasian countries suffers while American countries enjoy the "war benefits" that they got while fighting from the safe line, to call some examples) 3. The war with BETA won't be resolved at all in this series. To see real effort to resolve the problem with BETA, play the VN or pray for a more than decent studio to animate the original series. Anyway, if you complain about lack of foreshadowing about the rebel faction, it's a totally valid complain. But "this scenario is unrealistic" is not. You just assuming that this world's logic could be implemented easily to world in Muv-Luv, this isn't the story where some aliens suddenly attack the earth in 2012 where their logic is expected to be similar with our logic. And of course, being in a position where you can see the whole case in safe, objective PoV, most people will look stupid for you. |
dashiawia said: onesangheili said: Therein is the flaw others see in your view. Your belief, not the world at large's. Well, I don't expect you or anyone else to agree with me. But that's what I really think. Since there hasn't been a world crisis on the scale of alien invasion, can anyone really say for certain mankind won't take this time to cooperate and work towards eliminating a common enemy? Ignoring this, my main complaint is that this show has lost track of where it's going. Last time I checked, it was about to show Yuuya's team confront Leon's team in combat. Yet instead, we're getting this new conflict that literally just came out of nowhere. It's also an issue that you are basing this view on limited information. Remember this is a spinoff and not the main story. The BETA are an antagonist from another story. In this story they are merely a piece of the setting. Therefore they are not focused on. In the main story a lot of information is present which explains most of your problems with the plot. In particular why the world hasn't united against a common threat and that they are doing massive amounts to fight back. It's just that the efforts are top secret for certain reasons. Honestly you wouldn't believe the depths humanity had to go just to fight off BETA. As for the Yuuya vs Leon conflict...well who cares? That would be a boring way to end the series. It has no consequence or repercussions if either team wins. The new conflict (While I agree should have been expanded more on and mentioned throughout the story.) has stakes. Things are at risk here. It's better to end a series with a fight that truly makes a difference. |
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Catastrophic said: NickyCharisma said: welcome to MuvLuv where everyone can, and most likely WILL, dieIf you kill off a love interest... I will punch somebody on the people STILL whining on the "Why wont they take the BETA" act. THIS IS A SIDE-STORY, the problems faced here are just part of the, already huge, MuvLuverse, go read the VNS if you're that eagerly. I guess it's no one's fault but my own for not doing research before starting this series. "Oh look at that! A mech show featuring cute girls. Derpa-derpa-dur! I am the king of the morons!" But seriously, will a character that I actually care about die? |
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| Now civilians are the bad guys..... Oh boy..... 2/5 |
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NickyCharisma said: I guess it's no one's fault but my own for not doing research before starting this series. "Oh look at that! A mech show featuring cute girls. Derpa-derpa-dur! I am the king of the morons!" But seriously, will a character that I actually care about die? Apparently no one has died in the novels, even if they ended in a cliffhanger. So no deaths in the anime unless it's going anime original. You can be sure there's gonna be deaths in the upcoming TE VN. No export for you though, not even a fan translation since it's a console release. |
| I wasnt expecting this great episode. They hyped this for a reason. It has a lot of potential with the storyline with the out of nowhere antagonist. I like it and lets just hope it finishes strong using all its elements into place. Muv Luv going this deep?? Is this a fake episode?! |
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| WTF! Yea,its an alien invasion,you know what are we gonna do,kill our own people! And yea Cold War isn't over yet,we just delayed it because of the BETA,if we beat them we are gonna continue it! |
Rignel said: NickyCharisma said: I guess it's no one's fault but my own for not doing research before starting this series. "Oh look at that! A mech show featuring cute girls. Derpa-derpa-dur! I am the king of the morons!" But seriously, will a character that I actually care about die? Apparently no one has died in the novels, even if they ended in a cliffhanger. So no deaths in the anime unless it's going anime original. You can be sure there's gonna be deaths in the upcoming TE VN. No export for you though, not even a fan translation since it's a console release. Since I got in trouble the last time I discussed the Visual Novel, a thank you must suffice. I don't mind characters dying, so long as the death's are meaningful. And I can simply not see anything meaningful about a love interest dying off. I just want to see Yuuya with a girl that makes him happy, dangit! (Yes, that includes Cui) |
| Let this be our little secret, no needs to know we're feeling HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER! |
And yea Cold War isn't over yet,we just delayed it because of the BETA,if we beat them we are gonna continue it! You're totally right about this. |
| What a twist! That was some epic conspiracy shit yo. But what if...the BETA were created by MAN! |
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BULLDOG266 said: What a twist! That was some epic conspiracy shit yo. But what if...the BETA were created by MAN! Yea , then man sent them up to Moon along with our space soldiers to fight each other and get sent back on earth as If it was an alien invasion. Lololol |
| Finally something is happing after these damn episode of talking, There were head shoots everywhere, NOOO Natalie!!!!! you give info later not while your "team mate" are there have you never seen a spy movie b4, also gas from the tank to say the day.... Cheesy as hell. and this show has Gone wayyyyyyyy of course. |
HydnlifeNov 29, 2012 10:08 AM
dashiawia said: This show is kinda going downhill... I find it incredibly stupid how the humans are fighting against each other when the Betas are still lurking out there. You'd think they would normally cooperate at a time like this, instead of fighting among themselves like morons. It's completely illogical, not to mention unrealistic. Unrealistic? Hello are you knew to the human race. As about fighting each other when there are Betas lurking. Well how about realizing the situation a little. If you are a human and have been abandon by your own race to die does it matter to you anymore on whether your death will come from a Beta or something else? Of course you are gonna fight for your survival and even kill your own kind while monsters are outside the door because what use is to you on whether humanity win the monsters or not if you ain't alive to see it. |
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| Ooh, a new OP and ED this late into the series eh? I wonder why they those to do it now of all times. Probably because everything turned all dark and went to shit this episode. Damn, that attack from the inside was brutal! So many casualties in just one episode, very gruesome. They were even disguised as MP's. This attack was planned long in advance. It was pretty obvious Natalie was actually undercover. She didn't deserve to die like that. The RLF, just another delusional army trying to "change the world"... |
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Monad said: dashiawia said: This show is kinda going downhill... I find it incredibly stupid how the humans are fighting against each other when the Betas are still lurking out there. You'd think they would normally cooperate at a time like this, instead of fighting among themselves like morons. It's completely illogical, not to mention unrealistic. Unrealistic? Hello are you knew to the human race. As about fighting each other when there are Betas lurking. Well how about realizing the situation a little. If you are a human and have been abandon by your own race to die does it matter to you anymore on whether your death will come from a Beta or something else? Of course you are gonna fight for your survival and even kill your own kind while monsters are outside the door because what use is to you on whether humanity win the monsters or not if you ain't alive to see it. Well, perhaps "unrealistic" isn't the right word. What I meant was that it's dumb for people to be selfish at such a critical time. While it may be very well realistic, it still doesn't change the core of the situation for me. Besides, if they really wanted to flesh out the human vs human conflict, then they should have started it halfway through the series, not 5 episodes before the finale. I hardly think they'd have time to conclude this arc in a satisfying manner now. This show started off strong with the brutal deaths and alien invasions. Unfortunately, it lost all its steam when they decided to throw in unnecessary fanservice episodes instead of further advancing the plot. |
DashiawiaDec 2, 2012 1:25 PM
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| Holy hell. That new OP, that new ED. Natalie's fate. All that bloodshed. This episode reminds me of the very early ones featuring Yui's past. Shocking but gripping. Only this time, I think Muv-Luv is showing us what it can really do now. This makes watching the previous 20 episodes worth it. Good grief. |
| Nice episode. It really should have taken near the end of the episode for this stuff to take place. I'm pretty sure it's fair to say that this is the reason we fell in love with the series in the beginning. The gore ,brutal killing , are back killing off characters without a second thought. This anime does it best of any series in how it shows people getting killed off most animes are scared to do that. |
| The only thing I’m having a hard time believing is how prepared the resistance was. They launched a serious military operation their own fully equipped little army and they had multiple moles in every key location on base. That attack would take years of planning and consume tremendous resources. They could have fed a lot of people with those resources, or they could have used their moles to change the militaries from the inside. However, I believe the rebels cause is ultimately pointless. Most of the world has been lost so I imagine that there are more people on the planet than could be fed. The only place on the planet that looks like it would be able to export food is the United States, and I imagine that they are the ones keeping most of the other countries like the USSR and Japan afloat. I don’t really see any hope for the refugees unless they choose to serve in the militaries of the remaining countries, which it looks like a good number of people have already done. |
| Good episode, didn't expect terrorism in this show but at least its providing some shock factor, don't know why they gave bargirl a big send-off style death though, she's had about 10 minutes of screen time throughout the entire show so how am I supposed to care. |
Akamitsu said: So their response to starvation is to attack the forward research and development military base and slaughtering thousands of soldiers and civilians. Destroying precious and expensive combat equipment used to fight the good fight. Plus their crews and pilots. Please explain to me how this isn't detrimental to the human race. Of course refugees are treated poorly. They flee their country and enter another with no money and few belongings with millions of their kind and start devouring the resources of that country. While the settled residents now have to put up with it. With less arable land to go around and such, they can't feed everyone. The people with money will get food. It's a time where the strong need to survive and the weak will have to perish, or become strong. Yeah, this whole rebellion thing was kinda stupid. Not only are the aliens still on this planet and killing people, now humans are killing humans. I thought that an alien invasion would have brought us together. I understand that the refugees were treated like shit, but they killed soldiers and civilians that were completely unrelated to that. They just kill innocent people. If there was an alien invasion, I would care about killing the aliens and surviving, not rebelling and destroying the people who fight against the aliens and their equipment. Why would they destroy the tools to defeat the aliens? That's just idiotic. This whole rebellion would be a lot more practical after the aliens were defeated, not while they are at the brink of extinction. :P |
Not only are the aliens still on this planet and killing people, now humans are killing humans. I thought that an alien invasion would have brought us together. You actually believe that humans will be brought together and forget everything that happened before the BETA arrived ? |
| Whoa whoa whoa where did these assholes come from?! They will pay for killing Natilie. |
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| WTF happened to the BETA after that hot spring? lol |
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