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Oct 18, 2008 8:18 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Oct 18, 2008 5:38 PM
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I don't understand Japanese, so I was totally lost when I was watching this episode. My initial thoughts were that they used to be rivals, but one became famous, while the other one not so famous. The not so famous one was jealous and sent the other one to hell... did I get that straight? And the revenge was lame (although I did laugh when Enma Ai tried to be the pop star)

This is the first episode of the third season that I was not satisfied with. I thought the other two were good.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Oct 18, 2008 7:42 PM
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isn't this episode want to say, sometimes the reason when one want to kill another one is too shallow
Oct 18, 2008 9:15 PM
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lol.. angel999's comments are as entertaining as the anime itself ^^
to be honest, didnt really like this episode either.. nah, i just hate that nerdy gal. i think she didnt even have to make the pact with enma to go to hell. she'd go to hell becoz of her hatred anyways. she just made the pretty blondy go earlier.
but then again, jun doesn't really deserve compassion either.. sure, she's very noble, admitting her mistakes and apologizing.. but she didn't even try to be a friend. and about angel999's comment about beautiful girl should go to heaven, hahaha.. ^^; i imagine there are more beautiful girls in hell than in heaven.. beautiful women are the ones who always drag men into hell.
and i was expecting more from enma this episode during the jigoku concert.. lol.. the music was good.. but she was just standing there!! ^^; so disappointing..
Oct 19, 2008 1:23 AM
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Why do you people keep watching it if you hate it? :P

In case you haven't noticed, there is no black and white scenarios with any of the characters involved in each episode (which is also one of the merits this series has), the point of it is to make you question your moral values; what is right and what is not? And if you have watched the previous seasons then you should also know by now that there are no clear-cut answers to those questions.

In other words, Jun was not noble or innocent, but she did realise that she had been wrong and wanted to make amends. And Masako harboured deep-rooted hatred for her because of what Jun had done in the past and also because of jealousy/inferiority 'cause she knew she could never make it as far in becoming a pop idol as Jun did.

Also, Jigoku concert was cute, I'd expect Ai to do something like that. Still, I liked the previous two episodes more myself, too.
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All right, I'm coming up with the translations for this episode. Meanwhile, here are the translations for the other episodes, and this time you DON'T have to send your email addy to a stranger:

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Oct 20, 2008 10:13 AM
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lonehunter88 said:
lol.. angel999's comments are as entertaining as the anime itself ^^
to be honest, didnt really like this episode either.. nah, i just hate that nerdy gal. i think she didnt even have to make the pact with enma to go to hell. she'd go to hell becoz of her hatred anyways. she just made the pretty blondy go earlier.
but then again, jun doesn't really deserve compassion either.. sure, she's very noble, admitting her mistakes and apologizing.. but she didn't even try to be a friend. and about angel999's comment about beautiful girl should go to heaven, hahaha.. ^^; i imagine there are more beautiful girls in hell than in heaven.. beautiful women are the ones who always drag men into hell.
and i was expecting more from enma this episode during the jigoku concert.. lol.. the music was good.. but she was just standing there!! ^^; so disappointing..


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I really felt bad for the two characters that hated each other. Although the other ones singing kinda sucked. But I think Jun really did want to apologize for her previous actions. It's just unfortunate that things had to turn out the way they did. Two people that really did not need to go to hell did, unlike previous episodes. I would like to see an episode where the two people work out their problems without pulling the string but I don't see that happening. I like it when the hell girl sends people to hell and she puts on that skit with all those other guys.

Oh btw I have not seen the other two season so sorry if I don't know the names of the characters. I might watch the other two though cause from what I have seen it looks like a cool anime.
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I really felt bad for the two characters that hated each other. Although the other ones singing kinda sucked. But I think Jun really did want to apologize for her previous actions. It's just unfortunate that things had to turn out the way they did. Two people that really did not need to go to hell did, unlike previous episodes. I would like to see an episode where the two people work out their problems without pulling the string but I don't see that happening. I like it when the hell girl sends people to hell and she puts on that skit with all those other guys.

Oh btw I have not seen the other two season so sorry if I don't know the names of the characters. I might watch the other two though cause from what I have seen it looks like a cool anime.


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Very cynical and sad episode, that's why I enjoy Jigoku Shoujo. But is it me or is the animation/art far worse than the second season ?

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^I'm not usually one to notice a dropoff in art, ever, but the entire death scene really didn't seem to be up to the same standard that I'm used to, or maybe I've just been watching too many musical series lately.

On the other hand, the death trips do seem to be a little more creative with ideas in what actually happens so far this season compared to the previous ones to me.
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She didnt deserve to go to hell at least from the viewer stand point to morisato it is different, this was a girl who destroyed her dreams basically her everything did jun deserve to go to hell no but its different when your not apart of how morisato feels this was a great episode
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Episode 3 has been subbed

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you shouldn't blame it on enma ai, she is just doing her job as a hell girl.

and i dont like this episode, jun doesn't deserve to go to hell. screw that friend of hers !
Oct 26, 2008 9:58 AM

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you shouldn't blame it on enma ai, she is just doing her job as a hell girl.

and i dont like this episode, jun doesn't deserve to go to hell. screw that friend of hers !


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I actually like Jun when she tried to stop Masako from having a debut with that such singing level of her skill. Jun knew that if she letting Masako doing the debut, Masako won't be able to survived after that because she is only going to crushed her own dream. You know what will happened if you are doing the most embarrassing thing in front of many people that you expected them to cheer you up with your very best effort that you put on.

I think they should tried to solve problem more effective instead of just sending everyone to hell each episode passed.


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Comments made while watching:

-"She isnt discussing being possessed..." Yeah I dont blame her, next thing you know she will be in a crazy house with that doll girl from season 1

-Oh yeah Princess Kikuri likes that!

-"Hey who is that over there?" Not sure but they will probably be in hell come the end of this episode.

-"Older men like serious girls like her." Yup see there is an example.

-As long as its not the Hotel California, yeah lets go.

-Hi im a complete stranger, now take this envelope and give it to that celebrity, I promise it doesnt have white powder in it.

-Wanyuudou is IRON WAITER!

-Yeah way to ruin the mood Yuzuki.

-*Picks up the pictures* You saw nothing!

-This week on Japanese Idol...

-Wait she apologized and now you blackmail her...hmm why does this seem familiar.

-Trust me lady its not as easy as that, besides only blonds can be idols...for some reason.

-Apparently among Ai's new powers is the ability to take over posters.

-No dont pull the string, my back is still healing from the last time!

-Ai: "Who says brunettes cant be idols!"

-Apparently someone opened a glow rod shop in hell.

-Jun apparently is Elvis if he were Japanese and didnt have a y chromosome

After Episode Comments:

Hmm another tragedy episode where a person is not forgiven for their past mistakes even though they have tried to make amends for it. I am beginning to think that the writers are going to make some more unique "getting sent to hell" scenes. I mean what so far we have had the bee, the electrical plug, and now the rock band scene, next time it will be the Fallout 3 scene.

Verdict:

Im gonna have to say innocent. Even if a person bullied you in the past, its kind of immature to let that govern your whole life, especially if that person is repentant and is trying to make amends for that.

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maarika said:


In case you haven't noticed, there is no black and white scenarios with any of the characters involved in each episode (which is also one of the merits this series has), the point of it is to make you question your moral values; what is right and what is not? And if you have watched the previous seasons then you should also know by now that there are no clear-cut answers to those questions.




Agree xD the other seasons had too much "evil" characters that were sended to hell...now we have more complicated characters, and maybe a more intersting plot, maybe xD now i hope the next ep doesnt have yaoi fanservice...the undercover-fanservice has to stop in this season xD
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As you guys pointed out, the art is a bit of a let down, but the punishments are more creative this season.

3 highly questionable deaths right off the bat, of the 3 first episodes this one saddened me the most. I feel that if Mikage tried, she could have persuaded that girl not to fulfill the contract.

I want this season to keep on with the foolish contractors for some more time, as the preview shows, it looks like next episode will be filled with regret.
Oct 26, 2008 5:34 PM

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Oyy I wanted to hear Enma sing </3
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is that realy revenge? even after she accepted a buy out? haha

well some people will die for their cause, weather its right or wrong. going to hell for it is really no different.
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Oyy I wanted to hear Enma sing </3

you can hear her in the ending, sort of xDDDD not singing a jpop song, but still cool
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seekster said:

-Apparently among Ai's new powers is the ability to take over posters.

-No dont pull the string, my back is still healing from the last time!



Lol, love those comments, esp those two XD But Ai already took over a soccer poster in ep 2, remember? XD

skyenix said:
Oyy I wanted to hear Enma sing </3


Me too, I wanted to hear her sing! yeah I know it's her VA singing the ending songs, but it's not the same, I want to see it coming from Ai :(
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Eh? I kinda liked this episode, I watched it subbed so I understand this thing.

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MapleRose said:
seekster said:

-Apparently among Ai's new powers is the ability to take over posters.

-No dont pull the string, my back is still healing from the last time!



Lol, love those comments, esp those two XD But Ai already took over a soccer poster in ep 2, remember? XD

skyenix said:
Oyy I wanted to hear Enma sing </3


Me too, I wanted to hear her sing! yeah I know it's her VA singing the ending songs, but it's not the same, I want to see it coming from Ai :(


Glad you like the "Comments made during episode" part. Ive kinda adopted that as a format which I intend to use on every episode.
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seekster said:
MapleRose said:
seekster said:

-Apparently among Ai's new powers is the ability to take over posters.

-No dont pull the string, my back is still healing from the last time!



Lol, love those comments, esp those two XD But Ai already took over a soccer poster in ep 2, remember? XD

skyenix said:
Oyy I wanted to hear Enma sing </3


KEEP UP THE WORK CAUSE ME TOO I LIKE THEM!

Me too, I wanted to hear her sing! yeah I know it's her VA singing the ending songs, but it's not the same, I want to see it coming from Ai :(


Glad you like the "Comments made during episode" part. Ive kinda adopted that as a format which I intend to use on every episode.
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This episode was pretty sad. I feel so sorry for the girl who went to helll. but this was my favorite episode so far
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This is like the second time I watched but with subs and all I have to add is SCREW YOU Momota for sending Jun to hell. I would personally send angels to rescue Jun! :D
Definitely would save Jun..........FOR GOD'S SAKE SHE REPENTED! HOPE MOMOTA GETS SCREWED REALLY BAD BY DEMONS!

I still CAN'T BELIEVE that SHE PULLED THAT STRING. DAMN YOU MOMOTA! DAMN YOU!
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Awe that sucked, she didnt deserve it. If your sorry for something you did then you shouldnt have to pay, but at the same time, the feelings of others should be taken into consideration. I know the feeling of what this is like. The ending made me smile because in the end she got her wish from that, bittersweet ending i guess its called.
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No...Jun deserve it...

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oh men enma ai is sugoku kawaii
i loved that revenge .,...even if she aplogized she was sent to hell
a triangle and a pair of maracas in a concert LOL
if she had dissapeared like in futakamori people would have runed away
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wonder if enma ai will get a body and how is she goig todie
or more inportant why did she came back
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darn, no Enma Ai Hell Concert. xD
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Aww damn, Jun got sent to hell :/
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Well, so far this season is really disappointing. The writing seems to have gotten less inventive and more unnatural, the art is great in places but poor in others, and Kikuri is still there. ARGH! I very much dislike Kikuri; she's obnoxious. At least she ended up having a purpose related to the plot in the second season, so even though she bugged me, it wasn't torture because there was a POINT. Now, there really isn't and it kills me when they award this pointless character screen time.

As for the revenges in this season, I note that most people think they're more inventive than the previous two. I completely disagree. I think revenges in the past seasons were not only more inventive but more artistic and individual to the situation as well. So far, these revenges have just been goofy and poorly choreographed. The main reason I liked Jigoku Shoujo was because the revenges played out like ghost/horror stories, were very creepy, and related to the person being sent to hell. These ones are silly, not creepy, without any artistic touch. It's really a let down for me. Hopefully, they'll pick up.

I like the whole possession idea, but it is already getting a bit tired. The girl Enma's possessing doesn't seem to have much personality and I'm sick of being subjected to the "birthing" stock footage. Come on! With this show, we already have to listen to the "rules" every single episode, must we really waste more episode time on a useless "transformation" sequence?
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oh f * * * k!!

she wasn't mean at all they were just playing indeed she was kind of mean when sending her for her stuff but when the pool thing it was all a laugh!!


i hoped to hear enma sing, as when she was a little girl!!



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Jigoku Concert XDDD I laughed when she was supposed to start singing but she didn't. So cute ! And what kind of shirt Ren was wearing ? ;0

It still makes me feel bad when Ai 'comes' from Yuzuki's body :x


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Lol at Enma's Hell concert. <3

Starting to feel that the seriousness was dropped down but I liked the fact that they added you elements into it, like ecchiness. LOL

Also, I feel like the ones pulling strings are the bad ones since the person they want to sent to hell already changed and regrettred what they did in the past. :(
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i wish that girl would have forgiven her!!! and i wanted 2 hear Ai sing XP oh well it was a good epi!!! XD
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i think it's sad that masako couldn't have realized that she could excel at something else. perhaps jun could have been a lot of help to her if she pursued something she was good at!
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Lol that Ai didn't sing at all, and when she was about to, a bell rang (?)
Wtf....
I was hoping Ai would sing one of the op or ed....

and lol...that poor girl even has hell fans... concerts really link hell and Earth together

and now I really think that those who contact Ai girl should really think over about the consequence (especially if that hated person is really popular), should have discussed and agreed to go to hell...
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I wish Ai would've sung. But I sorta understand why the girl got so angry cus after she apologized she was like" I became a new person and stuff." And then all her fans start cheering her.
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This ep was really sad for me. I mean she felt sorry and we all make mistakes and if she has changed I don't understand why send her to hell. I felt so bad when all of her fans were screaming her name, for me she was not bad I mean yeah she did something bad but if she regrets what she did and she apologize why is she so mad? They didn't even asked if she regret it because they knew she did.
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I mean she felt sorry and we all make mistakes and if she has changed I don't understand why send her to hell...They didn't even asked if she regret it because they knew she did.

Here, here. I feel cheated.
Whole first season we heard all variations of "Do you feel guilty for that?" before person was sent to hell, at third season we finally saw a person who doesn't say "It's not my fault" and what? She still was sent to hell. WTF? What was the purpose of all of these interrogations in the first two seasons?
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I kinda lol'd when Ai said "Welcome to Enma Ai's Hell Concert." XD

But aww, I wanted to hear her sing. :(
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Yeah, this episode was less than "nothing special." Nothing was done in a good way, probably I watch it just because there are more episodes after this one. And because of Yuzuki. Both previous eps are better than this one, and the reason for the sending this time was really too shallow.
Jul 7, 2011 8:22 PM
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dandandan said:
moniilove said:
I mean she felt sorry and we all make mistakes and if she has changed I don't understand why send her to hell...They didn't even asked if she regret it because they knew she did.

Here, here. I feel cheated.
Whole first season we heard all variations of "Do you feel guilty for that?" before person was sent to hell, at third season we finally saw a person who doesn't say "It's not my fault" and what? She still was sent to hell. WTF? What was the purpose of all of these interrogations in the first two seasons?


Agreed. Jun wasn't even sent to hell out of revenge. She was sent because the other girl was simply jealous. Why would Ai even accept this case? It goes against her policy of taking people who deserve to be punished.
Mar 15, 2012 8:06 AM
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Jun didn't just disappear and go off somewhere.. She freaking disappeared ON STAGE!

Mystere said:
Jun wasn't even sent to hell out of revenge. She was sent because the other girl was simply jealous. Why would Ai even accept this case? It goes against her policy of taking people who deserve to be punished.

That's true.. The system is based around revenge, not jealousy. But then again, there have been a lot of unfair hell sending in past eps.
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i would totally go to emma ai hell concert
Aug 10, 2012 8:20 AM

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Great episode, the story was rather fucked, I understand you would hate that person if someone would do that to you but time and the person in question changes, so yea imo she shouldn't had been banished to hell!

Still nice story and these torture parts before send to hell are getting funnier :p
Sep 18, 2012 4:54 PM

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I like the ending, "even if you change, the person still hates you." lol

Would of been a good ending, if she asked for more than 3 million yen.

What made my day, was Ai not singing.
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