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| Awesome episode, I was very surprised when I saw what Yuuko did. I'm really looking forward to the next episode. |
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| "Somebody" spoiled it for me so I wasn't all that surprised. He had already read the manga and I asked him personally to tell me what happened so I'm not mad. Either way, he didn't even die if you kept looking at the ED. But that face. So funny. |
| They made him look like he was dead when he fell down the stairs o_o |
Kawaii7878 said: They made him look like he was dead when he fell down the stairs o_o I took it to be shock at what she did. A couple of months ago I fell and broke my arm while rollerskating, trying to teach my son, no less. I was so annoyed at having fallen while trying to show him how easy it was that I picked myself up and went another couple of laps around the rink before I realized the arm was not quite right. I guess my point is it's very possible to get hurt fairly badly and be so focused on something else you might not realize it at first, and I'm not a "tough guy" by any means. To me that was what the look on his face meant. |
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katsu044 said: Guess Yuko couldn't face her trueself..you should never lie to your persona ahahah throughout the whole episode i couldnt get Persona 4 off of my mind. I was like ACCEPT YOUR TRUE SELF, YUUKO. And I hope you guys watched through the end. You get a nice sexy picture of Yuuko in a school swimsuit as a reward. :3 |
| Wow this might become my top favorite anime although it's nothing like what i use to like. This episode was so intense and sad, the angst was almost palpable. And what I absolutely love about it is that it somehow manages to avoid all the overused clichees in other ghost about animes: Yuuko is not really a tsundere, not really a tsunshun, she's definitely not moe... her entire character is just dark, beautiful and lovable... surreal really.Although I couldn't really say the same about Teichi. |
| Nice dark tone episode. So can her shadow self affect her actions? Could it be something more than just a shadow alter ego full with her negative feelings? So did she forget him by pushing her jealousy to the shadow or did she forget him because she pushed the negative feelings she felt for pushing him away? P.S - I love Kirie's thin athletic legs. That's short shirt is pefect on her.  |
| I wasn't expecting that to happen. I'm really surprised. |
Hakuromatsu said: Without a doubt the best episode of the series, because we actually had a chance to delve into Yuuko's psyche. I love the concept of "pushing" negative emotions onto another persona -- I wonder if Yuuko's shadow is growing stronger and stronger with each new negative emotion? I'm also wondering if Yuuko has been through this cycle many times over the course of 27 years. Interact with the physical world, develop a new negative emotion, push that emotion onto your shadow, and lose your memory along with that emotion. I'd say it's "two steps forward, one step back," but it feels more like "two steps forward, two steps back." I think Niiya's goal moving forward will be to help Yuuko take those two steps in the right direction so she can learn and come to terms with the full circumstances of her death, without slipping back into the same cycle. Of course, that's all hypothesis. thing is, no one has been able to see her all those years, so i think most of the time she was feeling rage, sadness, loneliness, and just generally feeling crappy for too long, i think at that point it was gonna turn on her and make her..."evil" i guess, which would only mean that she did wat they said, push all of those negative emotions into another persona |
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| so he broke his left leg and yuuko forgot him? so cliche XD (but me like) |
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| Fantastic episode, loved every minute. |
| OOOOOOOOOOH SHIT wasn't expecting for that great episode |
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| Actually glad that nepal is facing disaster |
| Oh wow, I didn't expect THAT to happen. A very well executed episode, loved every second of it 5/5. I see other people thought of Persona 4 too, I'm glad I wasn't the only one. |
| great episode! i wasn't terribly thrilled with the last couple, but this one brought the spookiness back to the forefront, as well as the tragedy of yuuko being trapped in a place forever, without remembrance, without love...beautiful and scary... |
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| This turned out to be the darkest of all the episodes which I think was very much necessary. Can't wait to see how Yuuko will face her "dark side" and what will be Niiya's role in this. The only part I would complain would be Kirie continuing to feed Niiya with negative things about Yuuko. I can understand Niiya having doubts since Yuuko is a ghost but still I'm sure he could have handled the situation better. I think I didn't feel that sorry for Niiya at the end due to that fact. The best part Yuuko saying "Anata wa dare?" at the end. It was quite creepy, in a good way. |
| And slowly, you come to realize... It's all as it should be... |
| Interesting revelations in this episode. Now we get the actual reason behind the term 'amnesia'; she forgot her memories because she pushes all her negative emotions onto her other personality. |
Avato-chan said: so he broke his left leg and yuuko forgot him? so cliche XD (but me like) But you have to realize. Yuuko doesn't forget; she pushes her negative emotions onto her shadow form. Since it's highly likely she feels terrible for letting jealousy and emotions get to her and she acted out on Teiichi, she chose to discard those memories and emotions onto her other self. darkerealm said: Interesting revelations in this episode. Now we get the actual reason behind the term 'amnesia'; she forgot her memories because she pushes all her negative emotions onto her other personality. Right, like in the beginning she plays dumb and doesn't know how she died. The reality is she does, but the emotions behind whatever happened must be so painful that she chooses to discard them rather than face them. On top of that it must be so painful that no one ever could see her or truly interact with her. In some of the stories they do a good job of telling you how lonely it must be for her. Now put a timetable of 50+ years onto this. It's no wonder the suffering and anger she has cast off onto the "shadow" form has become so immense. Teiichi must have been a godsend in her eyes. But the problem is Teiichi didn't respond well to her clingy personality. How can he; he's a normal 13 year old boy. Yuuko seems desperate to hold onto him and gets upset at any slight she feels Teiichi does. Such as pay attention to Momoe's hero worship, doesn't show up to school for a few days, and pretend she's not there when he's interacting with others. i think when Shadow Yuuko merged with Playful Yuuko, the emotions flooding in of her being jealous and upset with Teiichi for not being attentive made her snap and she pushed him. i think her passing her emotions onto Shadow Yuuko and then having those emotions rush back onto her in an instant is similar to someone pretending not to be angry and then finally having enough of it and blowing up. Nasty001 said: Oh my don't tell me Yuuko just did that to Teiichi, and now Yuuko has forgotten him, Teiichi should be happy since he do things were Yuuko won't bother him again. I think the opposite will happen and he'll realize that he does truly care for her and will try and work things out and get her memories back. |
| That was a REALLY good episode, although at times I really wanted to slap Niiya for being so naive XD I can't wait to find out what happened to Yuuko's memory and about the shadow. 5/5 |
Spacebar said: DAFUQ XD God the ecchi in this show just doesn't match up at times. |
| It sucks to have amnesia, and it's hard to get back all the memories. Let's see how's it go on the next episode. |
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Cirris said: Right, like in the beginning she plays dumb and doesn't know how she died. The reality is she does, but the emotions behind whatever happened must be so painful that she chooses to discard them rather than face them. On top of that it must be so painful that no one ever could see her or truly interact with her. In some of the stories they do a good job of telling you how lonely it must be for her. Now put a timetable of 50+ years onto this. It's no wonder the suffering and anger she has cast off onto the "shadow" form has become so immense. Agreed. Seems to me the existence of a "ghost" (as opposed to ancestor spirits and such) in most cultures is usually associated with something very bad regarding the person the ghost came from just before or at the time of death - ghost aren't created from happy deaths. To me, she's essentially suffering from considerable Post Traumatic Stress and if still alive would probably have been considered a basket case. |
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| I was kind of hoping Niiya stayed dead and turned into a evil ghost of vengance! |
| Love Niiya X Okonogi moments... Yuuko-san is showing her jealousy... But shit just got real, Damn I was surprised when Niiya was pushed down the stairs! My God. I wonder what will happen next? |
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| Teiichi shouldn't have ditched Yuuko when she asked him to have lunch together. I wouldn't have. Also, am I the only one who's annoyed of the huge amount of still pictures and that the animators often never draw the other students? |
| I see dead people. |
| Yeah finally some good action. I was afraid that this anime would turn into a mainstream romance/comedy one. Luckily it didn''t =D Btw did the producers leave a huge amount of background or the story out of this anime compared to the manga? |
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Nintendosoni said: Cuts costs, looks "stylish". This is 101 in SHAFT animation rules and if I remember correctly the director of this series cut his teeth working for SHAFT (Silver Link can almost be considered a "new" SHAFT) much like Sankarea's director (who worked in Arakawa, Madoka Magica and Denpa Onna, all three being SHAFT works).Teiichi shouldn't have ditched Yuuko when she asked him to have lunch together. I wouldn't have. Also, am I the only one who's annoyed of the huge amount of still pictures and that the animators often never draw the other students? |
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pyrotechnics said: Yuuko is so cute when she's clingy towards Teiichi and jealous (^_^) Glad there's finally progress being made to the storyline. Pretty crazy!!! Really? I find it intensely grating and annoying. I know she's lonely being a ghost and invisible to most people and all but isn't she keeping Niya from having a normal school life? (guess not if he doesn't have a problem with it) I mean somebody has to notice him talking to himself or being dragged around by Yuuko...and think Niya's off his rocker. |
| Wasn't expecting something like this, so this is a nice surprise. Pretty interesting stuff. |
| Shadow Yuuko is finally introduced after appearing a few times in the background in some of the earlier episodes. Some of the content I thought was skipped appeared later here, apparently further reordering the content. Anyway, seeing those parts animated was great. Quite a visual treat for this episode, though I did find Shadow Yuuko's appearance to be less freaky than expected. Not black enough, perhaps? Now that they've come back to this part, it seems to me they're planning to go through with all the Shadow Yuuko related parts in one go, hopefully also including those from the more recent chapters. The special ED visuals for this episode was also a nice touch. Looking forward to the next episode. |
| Oh wow something is finally happening! I think this is the first time I'm really anticipating the next episode..w |
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| Oh shit so this is what the whole amnesia part is about. Wow everything is getting even more interesting now. I didn't expect the plot to become like this, hmm I like it. Ah so that's what Shadow Yuuko meant when she said things are going to repeat itself again. Yuuko pushing her negative feelings and memories onto the Shadow yet again. Can't freaking wait for the next episode. |
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| I doubt anyone is gonna respond to this since I am slowpoke, but: There is one interesting inconsistency. Yuuko said that she volunteered herself to sacrifice herself in order to quell the plague. If that were the case, there is no reason why her leg should be broken. Breaking a leg prevents someone from escaping on their own; why do that to someone who volunteered. Me thinks shadow Yuuko will answer that. |
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Exkalamity said: I doubt anyone is gonna respond to this since I am slowpoke, but: There is one interesting inconsistency. Yuuko said that she volunteered herself to sacrifice herself in order to quell the plague. If that were the case, there is no reason why her leg should be broken. Breaking a leg prevents someone from escaping on their own; why do that to someone who volunteered. Me thinks shadow Yuuko will answer that. Well, Yuuko wanted to forget everything, and she did, so I'm not surprised that she could have made that up just to take Teichii's attention. |
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Exkalamity said: I doubt anyone is gonna respond to this since I am slowpoke, but: There is one interesting inconsistency. Yuuko said that she volunteered herself to sacrifice herself in order to quell the plague. If that were the case, there is no reason why her leg should be broken. Breaking a leg prevents someone from escaping on their own; why do that to someone who volunteered. Me thinks shadow Yuuko will answer that. As @Yankun said, when Teichii suggested she may have been a sacrifice she decided on her own that it was willing because that's what she wants to believe, or what she wants him to believe. On the other hand, the broken leg doesn't say anything about that one way or another. She easily *could* have been willing, and "they" stood her at the top of the stairs and pushed her down, so that while falling and tumbling she broke her leg. |
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| Soo yeah , it seems she put all her memories of hatred and regret into that shadow Yuuko . At the end of the episode I didn't see that coming ... |
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| Wow awesome ep cant wait for the next one. |
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| wow, that got sour quick... sucked to see her jealousy building up, then it REALLY sucked to see her negative emotions completely retake her towards the end. :/ i thought teiichi was dead, until the end of the credits. thank goodness i hope yuuko can get rid of her negative self and get back with teiichi, those two are just such a good couple |
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| I'm really liking this show, especially this ep! I loved it. Playing basketball with him was funny, to me. Pushing him down the stairs was definitely unexpected. The show isn't scary, but it can be a little creepy. I don't think any anime scared me, or ever will, but I think some shows can be creepy, and the creepiness went up a little, and I love it. Poor Yuuko. |
| Awesome episode :D |
| Great episode. This anime sure took a while to get good. 7 damn episodes. |
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Spacebar said: DAFUQ Now I know what pic I can use if I ever write a mini review about this anime LOL |
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| Oh my god! This episode was amazing. Lots of plot developments with shocking ending. It's really awful to see the destruction of Yuuko. Having her memories passed on to her shadow must really cause problems for Teiichi, although it could be a relief to start anew again. Their confrontation with Shadow Yuuko stongly reminded me of the Persona series. Similar dialogue too. Impressed with how they portrayed the final scene with the dramatic twist, Yuuko missing from the ED and then the reveal that Teiichi's not actually dead from a fall down the stairs. Love this show. |
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