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Yumekichi11 said: kaminakun said: Well it's a bad choice and end of discussion. What Alto said to Ranka at the end and then to Sheryl is BS! I don't buy nor am I happy with it and yeah the author better had make Alto hide so as to not disappoint fans but give out some form of approval to Sheryl of her love well.... I refuse any other choice than Ranka. That's all. The only other thing to say about the movie is its innovations in adding what was not in the movie and removing the less critical extras. Simple as that.LOL @ DNA argument. Sheryl >> Ranka Accept the fact. Because that's Alto's choice. Ranka will always >>>>>>>> Sheryl anytime. Before I forget A) I saw this from a recording so no online it was better. B) This is what needs to be said of Ranka x Alto, heck yeah! At least something meaningful but I would prefer a kiss of course. Ranka ended the movie and Sheryl was incapacitated! What do you say to that? HA! Ranka in thee end succumbed far less than Sheryl but I am saying this in mild humor. Point is Ranka finished it off in thee end and yeah Alto is somewhere in another Universe? Galaxy? Dimension? Who knows but one thing for sure if he is not then he is dead with that Vajra. So he is not dead but in another part of the Universe. The only fact I know is the DNA bullshit you came up in your delusions is just that, bullshit. It's also only a bad choice to YOU, as your rabid-Ranka-glasses are held too tight on your face, and you want to see nothing else but your own preference, while doing anything and everything to denounce and demonize Sheryl. Geez. Is it that hard to accept Alto's choice? This is why I respect the Japanese fandom of MacF because they make better sports out of something that's FICTIONAL. The Alto/Ranka fans over at Pixiv? Rather than waste time making walls of rage and sourgraping, they accept it for what it is without bashing Alto or Sheryl. They're not devastated that Ranka lost, instead they make fanarts of their preferred couple without saying anything. They do not try to claim that Alto loves Ranka, they just enjoy what they like without trying to make a propaganda out of it. Hell, Ranka is the biggest sport of all! She actually wishes that Alto and Sheryl will reunite at the end of the movie. Oh and Sheryl does wake up in the end (the hint is the credits song duet with Ranka). |
steshinOct 20, 2011 12:33 PM
Yumekichi11 said: kaminakun said: Well it's a bad choice and end of discussion. What Alto said to Ranka at the end and then to Sheryl is BS! I don't buy nor am I happy with it and yeah the author better had make Alto hide so as to not disappoint fans but give out some form of approval to Sheryl of her love well.... I refuse any other choice than Ranka. That's all. The only other thing to say about the movie is its innovations in adding what was not in the movie and removing the less critical extras. Simple as that.LOL @ DNA argument. Sheryl >> Ranka Accept the fact. Because that's Alto's choice. Ranka will always >>>>>>>> Sheryl anytime. Before I forget A) I saw this from a recording so no online it was better. B) This is what needs to be said of Ranka x Alto,  heck yeah! At least something meaningful but I would prefer a kiss of course. What Alto said to Sheryl is officially canon. It's in the story part of the movie book. You can live in perpetual denial. As for that scene. You mean you wish it was like this?  Alto had a similar scene with Sheryl in the Tv series, only that he sought her out before the last battle in her own room (while Ranka seeks him out in this one which shows who is interested on who). As far as he knew, Ranka was alive (unlike Sheryl who he thought she died), and Sheryl didn't want to hear his confession (we have confirmation from the scriptwriter he was trying to express his feelings to her). She kissed him, they kiss and embrace. She pulls away while he protests a lot and she has to shush him. If anything, this scene proves that Alto cherishes Ranka as a good friend. Not even when Sheryl is out the picture, Alto seems to consider Ranka as a lover. While if the situation involved Sheryl (like it did in the TV series) it would be romantic. He's wearing her earring as pendant as Klan wore Michael's glasses after he died in the TV series. In the novel adaptation, he and Cathy had a heart to heart about losing the man/woman they loved (she thought Ozma was dead too). This doesn't mean Ranka is lesser than Sheryl. Both are incredible heroines. Alto just sees one in a platonic sense and another in a romantic sense. Ranka is immensely strong in the second movie. She didn't only lose her biological brother, but her best friend and crush was missing and her other best friend and mentor/idol is in a coma. She gave up on Alto. She wishes she could have her best friends back. She'll find love like Mao Nome did. I just hope the three of them would be reunited together. |
LoveDriftsAwayOct 20, 2011 1:54 PM
LoveDriftsAway said: Yumekichi11 said: kaminakun said: Well it's a bad choice and end of discussion. What Alto said to Ranka at the end and then to Sheryl is BS! I don't buy nor am I happy with it and yeah the author better had make Alto hide so as to not disappoint fans but give out some form of approval to Sheryl of her love well.... I refuse any other choice than Ranka. That's all. The only other thing to say about the movie is its innovations in adding what was not in the movie and removing the less critical extras. Simple as that.LOL @ DNA argument. Sheryl >> Ranka Accept the fact. Because that's Alto's choice. Ranka will always >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheryl anytime. Before I forget A) I saw this from a recording so no online it was better. B) This is what needs to be said of Ranka x Alto, heck yeah! At least something meaningful but I would prefer a kiss of course. What Alto said to Sheryl is officially canon. It's in the story part of the movie book. You can live in perpetual denial. LoveDriftsAway said: As for that scene. You mean you wish it was like this? LoveDriftsAway said: Oh great so we are going in the mistress and wife dilemma where Ranka can be considered a relief thing and Sheryl is more of a lover bonding. Well that is probably lamely explained but I refuse such.If anything, this scene proves that Alto cherishes Ranka as a good friend. Not even when Sheryl is out the picture, Alto seems to consider Ranka as a lover. While if the situation involved Sheryl (like it did in the TV series) it would be romantic. LoveDriftsAway said: Did he not get something from Ranka too to keep? memory fuzz here from TV series.He's wearing her earring as pendant as Klan wore Michael's glasses after he died in the TV series. In the novel adaptation, he and Cathy had a heart to heart about losing the man/woman they loved (she thought Ozma was dead too). LoveDriftsAway said: Well it's quite the pity for Ranka that Alto thinks like that.This doesn't mean Ranka is lesser than Sheryl. Both are incredible heroines. Alto just sees one in a platonic sense and another in a romantic sense. LoveDriftsAway said: Well was the the Frontier Live thing by chance or it's to come around soon? If so then I cannot wait to see it to understand stuff further.Furthermore Sheryl awoke. Kawamori told in an interview the ending credits hints the future: The credits are a live concert between her and Ranka, a song that was supposed to be about Ranka's and Sheryl's relationship in particular (according to May'n). The strongest bond in Frontier is between the girls. LoveDriftsAway said: Ranka is immensely strong in the second movie. She didn't only lose her biological brother, but her best friend and crush was missing and her other best friend and mentor/idol is in a coma. She gave up on Alto. She wishes she could have her best friends back. Yeah I understand but I refuse that she gave up! She did not! The last proves that she is also waiting for Alto. Just that she tries not to think about Alto because it is making her suffer a lot. There was regret in the end mixed with hope of Alto coming back and being gone. LoveDriftsAway said: Yeah but I don't approve of anyone for her. It has to be a cool guy like Ozma or Alto minus the vices Alto had.She'll find love like Mao Nome did. I just hope the three of them would be reunited together. |
| Good lord people, here we have fantastic film full of great music, awesome battle scenes and larger than life twists and characters and all you do is go through another tired round of ship wars! I guess it was inevitable, but really now... |
LoveDriftsAway said: I will leave at this with nothing but this, an ideal that will never come but will stay as the spoiler suggests http://myanimelist.net/anime/147/Kimi_ga_Nozomu_Eien so yeah it would please fans of both sides. Sadly it will probably not happen. We just Ranka to be happy! GOD! Being like you say it is sometimes is just not enough for what Ranka went through and all to not be with Alto. Well it was still awesome for a movie so I will this awesome pic of it in the spoiler |
Xardie said: Good lord people, here we have fantastic film full of great music, awesome battle scenes and larger than life twists and characters and all you do is go through another tired round of ship wars! I guess it was inevitable, but really now... Shipping is serious business, no doubt. :| There should be a separate thread for this kind of thing. |
| I play, the haters lose. |
| Get over it, Sheryl win... PERIOD. |
| I enjoyed the film, especially when I happened to like BOTH girls in the movies, but the rabid fans always have to ruin it for me. Be it Sheryl or Ranka ones. >_> |
| LOL, that's Kawamori for you. |
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aqua11alta said: LoveDriftsAway said: You can still have Brera/Ranka in Sheryl manga, yuuki_yukimori. You're also being silly. Sheryl needs to "get a life" because Alto loves her and not Ranka? Please. Ranka's a great friend and a cute sister figure, but she's not girlfriend material yet. There is someone else there for her. Alto didn't pay her enough attention, like he did to Sheryl. About the songs: Ranka sings a lot of Sheryl's songs (and Minmay's songs), including the one she was discovered with (What 'bout my Star?). It's only fair Sheryl gets some of her songs too. In particular when the song isn't Ranka's, but discovered by Mao Nome (Sheryl's grandmother) and sung by Ranka's mother. The end song is written by Sheryl with her own blood (The Wings of Goodbye), anyway. Although I think Sheryl's singing in Aimo is as bad as Ranka's singing Diamond Crevasse. It doesn't fit them at all. Can someone tell me what's this 'Sheryl Manga'? Sheryl ~Kiss in the Galaxy~ |
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PlatinumHawke said: TV version: Sky end Movie version: Nobody "wins" I feel moderately trolled by this. At least a decision has been made. So I guess you can call that an improvement over the TV ending |
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| I loved the Macross 7's Fire Bomber parody (Mikhail as Nekki Basara and Klan as Jenius Mylene) and the cross-dressing "trap" Alto from the Alcatraz prison-break scene! Anyway, it felt like there was a big hole left in my mind after watching the second movie. I can't call it a disappointment, but perhaps, I'm wishing for a third one to come out... |
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| Totally a Sheryl end. |
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LoveDriftsAway said: It's a worthwhile mention that the backcover of the movie OST is them, naked and holding hands while Alto flies away into the sky. Not that song, the one they sing in the credits shooting star something? Wasn't that an image from the scene where they were singing together and their clothes had been vaporized by Grace, while Alto was flying the final attack on her? |
| Wait I don't get so what happen to Alto? Is he still missing but I am still a Ranka fan after this. |
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| This is one of them times where the movie fails horribly in comparison to the TV series. The biggest qualm I had was..re-writing characters back to life.. Sure its nice and sweet and all fairy tale like, but... mostly stupid. Ive been a fan of the entire Macross series since it began.. But this movie was horrible... (I never thought I'd ever dislike a Macross-anything, but it happened.) I still cannot believe he picked Sheryl the whore over Ranka the elegant. |
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| I really quite enjoyed the movie. It had a much more impactful and satisfying ending with the protagonist being MIA and a few lovable supporting characters not meeting their otherwise sad doom, unlike the first Macross Frontier anime series alternate version. Of course I wasn't including all the really close-calls for in this movie: and all I have to say for Leon Mishima is: Although I still wonder why they changed Ranka's green frog phone Ketai-kun to orange... If they're going to make another Macross anime, which I totally hope they are, I do kind of want them to bring back a mention of Alto's future...like what they did for Mao Nome in Macross Frontier; by introducing Sheryl Nome |
Estoy_GordoOct 28, 2011 10:53 PM
| I don't know how long I have been waiting for this movie. I remember watching some show that Nutbladder subbed and they had a PV of this in the episode that churned me into watching the whole Macross universe. I was greatly entertained as I watched every single little thing in 6 days and now it all has ended. I wish I could give this a 10 but I can't. There was way too many of Ranka songs and I can't love her cutesy songs as much as Sheryl's mature, heart-stirring voice. The opening killed me when the bridal scene was just one of Sheryl's songs; for the whole movie, I thought that Alto would not choose her but I was quite satisfied with the ending. Brera was still hot in the movie. I just sorta wished that they would have used the cliche white space background and have Alto and Sheryl as kids once again holding hands like a dream in the end. |
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| The movie was awesome, and Isamu Dyson's cameo in an SMS VF-19 near the end was pure WIN. |
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HawthorneKitty said: I don't know how long I have been waiting for this movie. I remember watching some show that Nutbladder subbed and they had a PV of this in the episode that churned me into watching the whole Macross universe. I was greatly entertained as I watched every single little thing in 6 days and now it all has ended. I wish I could give this a 10 but I can't. There was way too many of Ranka songs and I can't love her cutesy songs as much as Sheryl's mature, heart-stirring voice. The opening killed me when the bridal scene was just one of Sheryl's songs; for the whole movie, I thought that Alto would not choose her but I was quite satisfied with the ending. Brera was still hot in the movie. I just sorta wished that they would have used the cliche white space background and have Alto and Sheryl as kids once again holding hands like a dream in the end. I have a remedy for you: fanfiction.net |
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| I really liked this movie and it sucks that Alto and Ranka can't get it together :( Also, the best thing in this movie was when Macross Quarter started surfing on a huge piece of scrap :) |
| It was even worse than the second part of the series and the characters were even more moronic (seriously, Alto must be the worst main character ever and Sheryl/Ranka are not really interesting female characters either). Plus Kawamori's direction is still as awful as ever. A movie to forget once again... |
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| Enjoyed the movie immensely. While far from perfect, it delivers solidly on the entertainment level, has great animation, cool music and epic battles. While it might be dissapointing that Alto had to disappear like that, well Kawamori tends to like these fairly vague endings. At least there was a resolution of sorts. This movie was pure gold for Macross fans in terms of service. From Isamu's cameo at the end battle (that's the protagonist from Macross Plus for those who haven't seen it), to SMS performing as Fire Bomber at the Alcatraz concert, to the scene with Ranka and Alto in Macross Quarter (almost identical visuals as a scene between Minmei and Kikaru in Super Dimension Fortress Macross), there's just something for everyone. I think this is the last we see from Frontier. What a fantastic 4 years that's been. Next year they'll hopefully move on to the 30th anniversary project. |
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| What a BS ending.... I HOPE, I REALLY HOPE!, that we can have like a spin off series just based on Ranka.. where Ranka can have a happy ending with some new guy character to love, thats 10000x better than Alto ! ;___; |
LoveDriftsAway said: It's over. There is a spin off Manga focused on Sheryl where Ranka seemly ends up with Brera if you don't mind siscon. Kawamori moved on with the 30th Anniversary Project. I think you mean AKB48 project :P We'll probably get OVA/pilot episode in October 2012 for next series while the series proper comes in 2013, just like the deal with Macross Frontier was in 2007-2008... but for now he's probably focused on Aquarion EVOl and AKB48 mostly. Hah LoveDriftsAway said: Who cares if Alto didn't see her as more than his best friend? Well, if you like her it's not nice to see poor girl heartbroken. Still, kind of silly to hate film for a reason like that. |
| Once again, the second movie had great visuals. But I was hoping for more Sheryl stage screentime since she is my favorite-- But ok, the first movie and the TV series did had plenty of Sheryl stage screentime. I didn't expect to see that much of a weak Sheryl but I liked how they portrayed her character. Even if she was an idol, it didn't mean that she was happy. And Ranka... She seemed to care more about Sheryl rather Alto. And even when Alto said that he couldn't return Ranka's feelings but instead he loved Sheryl, she was like she didn't care. Anyway, I always thought that Alto loved Ranka like a sister. That ending though. I was hoping to see more. Only the credits showed that Sheryl woke up indeed and probably Alto is somewhere alive. |
MillaMaxwellOct 29, 2011 6:16 PM
| Had to refresh my memory of part one of the movie and watch it again, and it was worth it. Wanted more of a cliche ending also. I just knew Alto and Sheryl would end together from watching the series, though, physically they didn't by the end of the movie xD I laughed when they added a flashback of Alto and Sheryl meeting before, that just decided that Alto would choose Sheryl :) Really wanted a scene of Alto and Sheryl together after they confessed to one another, guess that will remain as a fantasy . I'd give this a 10 if I didn't watch the TV series, but since I did, I have to give this a 9. ;sigh; I want more... if only.. lol.. |
JKOct 29, 2011 7:31 PM
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Jacut said: It was even worse than the second part of the series and the characters were even more moronic (seriously, Alto must be the worst main character ever and Sheryl/Ranka are not really interesting female characters either). Plus Kawamori's direction is still as awful as ever. A movie to forget once again... Hipster douche. |
soulassassin547Oct 29, 2011 8:50 PM
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| Watching this reminded me why I love this series and why I love Ranka and Sheryl. Kind of a sad ending but it was pretty good imo. Alto went out like a boss. |
| Fuck all the faked deaths, the one achille's heel of the movie, and it's an extremely annoying one. It's even worse than the shit they pull in some Gundam shows. Otherwise a good movie, even if a little way too melodramatic at times (I didn't get this feeling from the first one). |
| lol some people are mad because Alto chooses the clearly superior one at the end. Seiously though, people who didn't see Sheryl would be the winner since the tv series must have never seen any Macross series before. |
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