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KaitoDash said: Really I though it was more like the 2100s or something. Gangler is right, Yumekichi. It is clearly stated somewhere around Vol 4-5 of the LN that the series takes place in Japan, 2009. Alternate Japan/World is the right way to describe it. Gangler said: Oh really? Well if there are enough to see her fight some mroe and character development I am fine. BTW this episode is how far I went in the manga so next up, I hope to get a spoiler of what is to come in the future.KaitoDash said: Sweet! Glad I could get that confirmed. Thanks for the info^^BTW, I checked the episode list. Looks like we'll have only 3 episodes for Shirayuki. Well, not surprised. Shirayuki's arc doesn't have too much detail. SuperKyou said: Ok then but I though the F-16 used to be the standard for the USA until the F-22. |
Yumekichi11 said: KaitoDash said: Really I though it was more like the 2100s or something. Gangler is right, Yumekichi. It is clearly stated somewhere around Vol 4-5 of the LN that the series takes place in Japan, 2009. Alternate Japan/World is the right way to describe it. Oh wow! That far into the future eh? Yeah, if that were the case the situation would be dire. We'd be talking about a century old machine. At that point it's not just outdated or not top of the line, it's a freaking antique. Well, I can certainly see where you were coming from with the talk of upgrades and military defense then, though under that context I'd still think it would be pretty noteworthy that they even had F-15s in such great condition ^^ I thought you were talking about like twenty or thirty years into the future :O |
Yumekichi11 said: KaitoDash said: Oh really? Well if there are enough to see her fight some mroe and character development I am fine. BTW this episode is how far I went in the manga so next up, I hope to get a spoiler of what is to come in the future.BTW, I checked the episode list. Looks like we'll have only 3 episodes for Shirayuki. Well, not surprised. Shirayuki's arc doesn't have too much detail. lol. You really love to spoil yourself. Well, I can compile some spoiler for you. You can come to my profile and ask what you want to know. |
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Amaya-no-Hime said: Werrston said: Seriously. I understand this is supposed to be a "fantasy" show or whatever, but this is just really really stupid.This anime is getting more ridiculous by the episode. I don't even feel like pointing out all the unrealistic and down right weird stuff... There's just something about Guns and the supernatural that dictates that their combination can only result in ridiculousness. It's the weirdest thing. Like, for example, imagine that everything that happened so far was in a generic fantasy setting. Kinji uses swords. His horse is cursed that it might never stop until it grew weary, died, and explodes. Aria, a blademaster and knight of great repute, jumps out from hidden depths and slashes the magic runes from the horse while simultaneously launching them both away from the incoming explosion. A set of golems arrive and start firing magic missiles at them. Kinji's power activates. He draws his sword and beats the magic missiles right back into the golem's launching mechanism. Later after begrudgingly becoming Aria's temporary servant, the same thing happens with a carriage carrying a noble family. Kinji gets up top and successfully damages the rune which serves as the unseen assailant's magic eye, but Aria gets grazed by a magic projectile (once again, golems are following) Finally, as Aria flees the country upon dragon's back, Kinji jumps aboard last minute after receiving new information from his underground informant and briefly activating his powers once more. He gets there only to find that the dragonmaster is his informant in disguise, and a powerful sorceress to boot! A fierce battle ensues. Aria's magic armor protects her from much, but at the last minute Riko uses previously unknown shapeshifting powers to get an unexpected hit in. Kinji flees and forces some healing tonic into Aria. She awakes and he activates his power, utilizing it to come up with a cunning plan. They corner Riko, but she forces the dragon to go out of control. They split up, aria trying to calm down the dragon while Kinji chases Riko. Last minute she steps on a prearranged rune and it activates, teleporting her to safety while simultaneously releasing a burst of explosive energy that grievously wounds the dragon and sets it to crash. Kinji contacts an ally experienced with dragons using a mystical stone for conveying voices over great distances. His friend tells him the secret to domineering a dragon, an advanced technique that takes years to master. Kinji looks deep into the dragons eyes and with a mind and will still greatly enhanced by his power he bends the dragon to his will, successfully guiding it to take them safely to ground. It's all the same shit, but with swords and magic instead of guns and bombs. Yet one is infinitely more acceptable than the other. |
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DesolateOne said: Bad first kiss too as it was way too sudden and felt meaningless. That was an AWESOME first kiss. D: It wasn't an "I love you kiss", it was "we're doing this out of convenience kiss". But it was still directed very well. You could feel the sexual tension between them. Whaaatt???? Are pigs flying?!? Aria won't call Kinji her slave anymore??!!! Whaattt?! This is ludacris. No way... See? SEE? She's not a bitch afterall! Omfg the ending was my favorite. Shirayuki comes out of nowhere with a sword going psycho! Awesome. Stupid possessive yandere whore. She's so f**king annoying. |
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| This show is simply retarded. A total joke. What more, it has a main character defiling the True Aria. |
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Chiibi said: Rakuen42 said: The show isn't watchable without gg's subs, which makes your point moot! :D Fixed it for you. :p No. I don't change your posts in quotes, how about you don't change mine? Sound fair? |
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Rakuen42 said: Chiibi said: Rakuen42 said: The show isn't watchable without gg's subs, which makes your point moot! :D Fixed it for you. :p No. I don't change your posts in quotes, how about you don't change mine? Sound fair? Hurr it was my way of showing how strongly I disagree with you. XD And stop kissing gg's ass. >_> They're obnoxious and should not be encouraged. |
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Amaya-no-Hime said: the fact that Reki's awesome. I still love her a lot, doesnt matter if she only got 2 secs of screen time this time ._. |
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Confucius said: Can someone make that parashute scene gif? That was hilarious, it's like HoTD Somebody made it on animesuki. XD RIKO. UR SO INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE 8DDDD |
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| Riko= Just ridiculous, magic hair, clothes turning into a parachute, and a descendant of Lupin? Aria= Lives though a shot to the chest, and a descendant of Sherlock Holmes....Really? Who's next? Robin Hood? Alexander the great? Kinji= A pussy who can turn into a badass... and just doesn't do it enough to make him stay interesting... This anime just wants to make up what ever it wants, even if it doesn't make any sense... 2 for this episode. |
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artist_for_hire said: Really? Who's next? Robin Hood? Alexander the great? I actually do suspect that classic literary figures will be the presiding theme here. Perhaps next will be a convoluted relation of The Talented Mister Ripley? Ishmael from Moby Dick? Perhaps someone will get their hands on the Mr Hyde formula and use it to comically exaggerated and misrepresented effect. Seems like this could be a fun direction to progress in. |
| Absolutely awesome episode, next episode we'll get to see the yandere.. uh... shirayuki in action :3 |
| Oh god wow, this episode went from good to horrible. First of all, Aria's wound mysteriously disappeared. I'm pretty sure you can't bring someone back to life with a drug. Just saying. Also, lol censor -_-" GOD THAT KISS WAS SO STUPIDLY CLICHE. SAME WITH THE YELL AT THE SKY ENDING. HOLY CRAP, ARE THEY EVEN THINKING ANYMORE?! Riko is awesome though. Although I'm pretty sure if you would get hurt from bombs exploding around you and the plane would go down if that happened ... Oh well, Shirayuki next, she seems cool ALSO WHY HOLMES?! WAY TO RUIN AN AWESOME CHARACTER FOR ME STUPID ARIA -_-" |
EvianBubble said: Oh god wow, this episode went from good to horrible. First of all, Aria's wound mysteriously disappeared. I'm pretty sure you can't bring someone back to life with a drug. She didn't actually die. It was cardiac arrest. GOD THAT KISS WAS SO STUPIDLY CLICHE. What part was cliche about it? o_o Kissing a girl to shut her up...I've only seen that done in two anime. ALSO WHY HOLMES?! WAY TO RUIN AN AWESOME CHARACTER FOR ME STUPID ARIA -_-" Ruin? Um, in case you haven't noticed, Aria's f**king badass. A lot more than Holmes, in fact. :p She's giving Holmes a pretty good name. |
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Chiibi said: GOD THAT KISS WAS SO STUPIDLY CLICHE. What part was cliche about it? o_o Kissing a girl to shut her up...I've only seen that done in two anime. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShutUpKiss Yeah, it's one of those odd things that feels way more common than it is. I would have thought it was an ancient cliche too, but when you stop and make the list there's not too many Chiibi said: ALSO WHY HOLMES?! WAY TO RUIN AN AWESOME CHARACTER FOR ME STUPID ARIA -_-" Ruin? Um, in case you haven't noticed, Aria's f**king badass. A lot more than Holmes, in fact. :p She's giving Holmes a pretty good name. You know, except for the part where Sherlock Holmes was a genius detective far ahead of his time to the point that his stories actually had a huge impact on real life law enforcement and is largely responsible for the modern concept of evidence. Whereas Aria is just kind of dumb muscle. Don't get me wrong, Aria is a fun character and all, but Holmes is both Legendary and Revolutionary. Let's not be belittling the guy. |
Gangler said: Yup I agree, Holmes would be rolling and face-palming in Heavens should he have seen this but TBH Holmes never had a kid so it is fun to see how one who is of female genre would act and be. The author also brings the point that generations today are much more impulsive and muscle than the ones who were in Holmes's time of more reflected and though thinking. Chiibi said: ALSO WHY HOLMES?! WAY TO RUIN AN AWESOME CHARACTER FOR ME STUPID ARIA -_-" Ruin? Um, in case you haven't noticed, Aria's f**king badass. A lot more than Holmes, in fact. :p She's giving Holmes a pretty good name. You know, except for the part where Sherlock Holmes was a genius detective far ahead of his time to the point that his stories actually had a huge impact on real life law enforcement and is largely responsible for the modern concept of evidence. Whereas Aria is just kind of dumb muscle.Don't get me wrong, Aria is a fun character and all, but Holmes is both Legendary and Revolutionary. Let's not be belittling the guy. Environment changes and techs upgrades may have contributed to this thinking. |
Chiibi said: Confucius said: Can someone make that parashute scene gif? That was hilarious, it's like HoTD Somebody made it on animesuki. XD RIKO. UR SO INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE 8DDDD Thanks lol This show is so stupid but I can't stop watching it lol |
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Gangler said: You know, except for the part where Sherlock Holmes was a genius detective far ahead of his time to the point that his stories actually had a huge impact on real life law enforcement and is largely responsible for the modern concept of evidence. Whereas Aria is just kind of dumb muscle. Aria's not dumb muscle. She is also a genius. She can speak 17 different languages, drive a loaded bus, keep a plane from crashing, wield dual guns and dual katana.... and she's only sixteen. Thus because she is much younger than Sherlock, I place more value on her talents. I didn't know about the Forensic science thing. That's certainly impressive. But I was mostly restricting the characters to their own worlds.... |
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Gangler said: What I can say about classic figures without spoiler tag is that "lots more will come", at least two more should be introduced in this season.artist_for_hire said: Really? Who's next? Robin Hood? Alexander the great? I actually do suspect that classic literary figures will be the presiding theme here. Perhaps next will be a convoluted relation of The Talented Mister Ripley? Ishmael from Moby Dick? Perhaps someone will get their hands on the Mr Hyde formula and use it to comically exaggerated and misrepresented effect. Seems like this could be a fun direction to progress in. Yumekichi11 said: Gangler said: Yup I agree, Holmes would be rolling and face-palming in Heavens should he have seen this but TBH Holmes never had a kid so it is fun to see how one who is of female genre would act and be. The author also brings the point that generations today are much more impulsive and muscle than the ones who were in Holmes's time of more reflected and though thinking. Chiibi said: You know, except for the part where Sherlock Holmes was a genius detective far ahead of his time to the point that his stories actually had a huge impact on real life law enforcement and is largely responsible for the modern concept of evidence. Whereas Aria is just kind of dumb muscle.Don't get me wrong, Aria is a fun character and all, but Holmes is both Legendary and Revolutionary. Let's not be belittling the guy.EvianBubble said: Ruin? ALSO WHY HOLMES?! WAY TO RUIN AN AWESOME CHARACTER FOR ME STUPID ARIA -_-" Um, in case you haven't noticed, Aria's f**king badass. A lot more than Holmes, in fact. :p She's giving Holmes a pretty good name. Environment changes and techs upgrades may have contributed to this thinking. Well, Aria said so herself that she does not inherit her great-grandfather's deduction skill and she was called defect by the family because of that. But she is in Assault, and her martial arts skill is great for a little girl. But if people says they ruined Holmes, I have to disagree. Because Holmes has nothing to do with these things here except being the ultimate figure among Butei. |
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Chiibi said: Aria's not dumb muscle. She is also a genius. She can speak 17 different languages, drive a loaded bus, keep a plane from crashing, wield dual guns and dual katana.... and she's only sixteen. Let's see Holmes do that stuff!! XD I didn't know about the Forensic science thing. That's certainly impressive. But I was mostly restricting the characters to their own worlds.... Seventeen languages eh? That surprises me. The rest of that I wouldn't classify as intelligence so much as skill. Let's be real, we haven't seen her display anything resembling intelligence so far. She's great with her hands. She can do lots of stuff, and like any fierce warrior is very well trained and skilled in her chosen means of combat. Still, she's not the full package like Sherlock Holmes, which is pretty much the premise of her character. Sherlock stepped in at a time when people were convicted based on testimony alone and started utilizing clues and induction to show everyone the flaws with their legal system. Basically completely outclassed the scotland yard and really Britain as a whole while also enlightening the country and working up a name for himself as the legendary and peerless detective. In addition to being just plain intelligent in a manner that wasn't otherwise present in his world, he was handy with a pistol, an expert swordsman, and a peerless boxer. Even without taking into account his significance within the real world (or the fact that the legal system I mentioned would probably still be in use without him), he's still just about as badass as anyone could possibly be. Not to mention his passing and functional knowledge of multiple sciences, his mastery of chemistry in particular, and an aptitude towards the arts of disguise and discretion. He was not a man to be trifled with. Aria is nice and all. Certainly a genius level combatant. Evidently she's got some highly impressive language skills as well. Has a functioning knowledge of vehicular transport. At the end of the day though, if you compare her to her world, she's a top class butei with a series of flaws that must be accommodated for. Her skills are very clearly within that top class, as made clear by the fact that other top class fighters are able to fight on equal terms with her. She's top class, but not peerless, which is the distinction I make. I don't seek to bash aria. She's fantastic. Not like she's running around "Showing the world how it's done" though. Aria's badass, but let's not pretend like Holmes is the character who's being improved by association. Edit: KaitoDash said: [ But if people says they ruined Holmes, I have to disagree. Because Holmes has nothing to do with these things here except being the ultimate figure among Butei. Oh for sure. No one's been ruined by this. That's just ridiculous. They don't effect eachother in any significant way, and I tend to view it more as a compliment to the author that people are still interested enough in his story that it maintains relevance and continues to get rehashed and retold to this day. Petty complaint originally, I wouldn't seek to align myself with it. Edit2.0: Just saw that I guess the post was altered at some point during my writing the reply and I didn't notice. The age is certainly a good and valid point to bring to the table Chiibi. As much as she hasn't risen past her peer circle, and thus still isn't as far above it all comparable to her peers as Sherlock, there's a solid case to be made that she merely has not reached that level of accomplishment or come into her own element yet. At sixteen there's only room for so much of a gap between you and your peers. When Holmes was in his early twenties he was still just developing the methods and thought processes that would later set him apart in such a manner. Hardly much more than a particularly intelligent undergraduate with some interesting ideas. Point and match. You certainly got me there. In this sense, aria I suppose could be considered comparable to a much younger sherlock holmes. An impulsive holmes lacking in wisdom and sense, who hasn't yet perfected her methods and become the legend that is her potential. Nice. Really cool way of looking at her character actually. |
GanglerMay 18, 2011 1:15 AM
Gangler said: Let's be real, we haven't seen her display anything resembling intelligence so far. Flying a plane and driving requires intelligence. o_O Especially the first one. You also would not be able to speak 17 different languages if you were dumb. So yeah, gotta disagree: Aria is quite intelligent. |
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Chiibi said: I agree with that it's just that her deduction skills, there has been a mistake: they are to be yet developed. I think she has them but lacking but here's the catch, if they are lacking them they could be developed to be perfected. LN novel readers....could tell that her deduction skills do improve in the future? If so then I am right.Gangler said: Flying a plane and driving requires intelligence. o_O Especially the first one. You also would not be able to speak 17 different languages if you were dumb.Let's be real, we haven't seen her display anything resembling intelligence so far. So yeah, gotta disagree: Aria is quite intelligent. |
Chiibi said: Gangler said: Let's be real, we haven't seen her display anything resembling intelligence so far. Flying a plane and driving requires intelligence. o_O Especially the first one. You also would not be able to speak 17 different languages if you were dumb. So yeah, gotta disagree: Aria is quite intelligent. Well, are we still talking about intelligence in comparison to Holmes or just intelligence in general? Really the only reason she's not considered to be a genius intellect by her peers is because she goes to a school for elite detectives instead of just the normal schooling system. I wouldn't try and argue general lack of intelligence, we were originally just discussing how she sizes up against her ancestor. |
| No, just intelligence in general. XD My bad for slightly changing the discussion. :3 |
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| No worries. I'm fine with the topic moving, such is a natural part of conversation. I was just worried I had perhaps misphrased myself. All about the context. Aria's smarter than I'll ever be, but I'm not a top tier law enforcer expected to take up the mantle of one of the greatest minds in the history of my world=P Unfortunately once you get to that point there are some pretty harsh expectations placed on you. I get the impression it's gonna be a source of trouble for aria:( I don't think the languages thing has come up yet in the show (haven't been able to spot mention of it), but if that's the case it's even worse since she doesn't necessarily even have to be a butei. With a mind like that I'm sure she could just march off into the academic community and make a living off her skills as a linguist. She'd probably be one of the most respected minds in her field, and could likely actually progress the study of language measurably within her life time by making connections and finding patterns that others just don't have enough of the picture to put together. If she's sticking around in Butei school despite this just because of the pressure to take up the family business and measure of to "The Greatness of your lineage", then that's actually really sad ;_; |
Yumekichi11 said: I agree with that it's just that her deduction skills, there has been a mistake: they are to be yet developed. I think she has them but lacking but here's the catch, if they are lacking them they could be developed to be perfected. LN novel readers....could tell that her deduction skills do improve in the future? If so then I am right. Umm... Unfortunately, no. She always acts based on her instinct, not reason. Well, lying behind those instincts are some reasons she doesn't know how to explain to people, but Kinji IS the partner who can comprehend that. Her instinct is great and reliable in general case; if she stays calm, her instinct always gives perfect decision. But the problem is that her composure is extremely low. Her brain gets messed up easily by some certain environments, especially in front of Hysteria Kinji. And she is innocent (in a good meaning as a character not as Butei) and gets tricked easily. So I would say she's excellent when she stays calm, because her instinct alone is enough. |
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| Exciting but i was very critical of some of the stuff. Not a bad episode, it would have been awesome if he just said he would be her partner after the whole plane case instead of chasing after her. That was the only bad part. |
| The part that I find fascinating was the sailor fuku parachute, that was pretty ridiculous. It was an okay episode it had it good moments and awkward ones. |
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| That was great. This show is so variable. One episode sucks and then another is actually good. Next episode will probably suck if it continues following the pattern. |
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KaitoDash said: Yumekichi11 said: I agree with that it's just that her deduction skills, there has been a mistake: they are to be yet developed. I think she has them but lacking but here's the catch, if they are lacking them they could be developed to be perfected. LN novel readers....could tell that her deduction skills do improve in the future? If so then I am right. Umm... Unfortunately, no. She always acts based on her instinct, not reason. Well, lying behind those instincts are some reasons she doesn't know how to explain to people, but Kinji IS the partner who can comprehend that. So I guess she never develops it because of her brain's structure or nurturing? At least Kinji being able to understand that can stand up for her in case misunderstanding may happen. KaitoDash said: Interesting enough, she get tricked easily? I don't think criminals trick her if 99 of them never escaped her but hysteria Kinji, I can understand.Her instinct is great and reliable in general case; if she stays calm, her instinct always gives perfect decision. But the problem is that her composure is extremely low. Her brain gets messed up easily by some certain environments, especially in front of Hysteria Kinji. And she is innocent (in a good meaning as a character not as Butei) and gets tricked easily. So I would say she's excellent when she stays calm, because her instinct alone is enough. |
| I'm a fan of being over the top, but this episode was just plain bad. From how Aria's life was saved, through the landing to the overly melodramatic helicopter scene. Still, I enjoyed the good moments, especially how Kinji is actually able to handle a tsundere (and a Rie variant at that). Very, very rare, for MCs to be this good regarding the issue. Will keep brain functions at a minimum for the following episodes, to which I am actually looking forward to. 3/5. |
| I enjoyed this episode for the most part, it simply had more action than the other episodes imo. I don't get how Aria was saved though. Did she die or something when Kinji checked for her heartbeat? I dunno, either way that medicine seemed way too unrealistic even if it did have its side-effects. :U |
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| I seriously cannot believe how many people are completely confused by the injection. I am just going to recommend that everyone go out and watch Pulp Fiction. Mission impossible 3, Halloween. You know what? Just watch some movies in general. This isn't exactly a new concept. Shoot the heart full of adrenaline, it starts up again, numbs fighter to the pain, fighter can keep fighting regardless of how much damage fighter has taken. Nothing was "Healed" beyond starting up her heart again, which had presumably stopped because of shock. Still, having a beating heart is a pretty big plus ;) |
| I would have love to see an actually stabbing rather than a push the needle and bam magic. So, Riko stands really close to explosives, detonate them, rip of her uniform to use it as a parachute so she can escape AND she does all this with a smile on her face... she even had time for fan service...... i got to cure this insomnia of mine, always end up watching crap at 4am = \ |
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Gangler said: I seriously cannot believe how many people are completely confused by the injection. I am just going to recommend that everyone go out and watch Pulp Fiction. Mission impossible 3, Halloween. You know what? Just watch some movies in general. This isn't exactly a new concept. Shoot the heart full of adrenaline, it starts up again, numbs fighter to the pain, fighter can keep fighting regardless of how much damage fighter has taken. Nothing was "Healed" beyond starting up her heart again, which had presumably stopped because of shock. Still, having a beating heart is a pretty big plus ;) Plus, the bullet didn't actually go through her heart, right? |
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| Hmm... Let's see. I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure that's not the heart. Good point there. Didn't think to examine that, but if there actually was a bullet in or through her heart I can't imagine just getting the thing beating again would have done much good. That's important. |
Gangler said: Hmm... Let's see. I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure that's not the heart. Good point there. Didn't think to examine that, but if there actually was a bullet in or through her heart I can't imagine just getting the thing beating again would have done much good. That's important. I'm no doctor either but the hole looks a bit too low for that to be the heart. :O |
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| Hahahahah, I liked how did Kinji kiss Aria to enter Hysteria mode(I suppose). I'm surprised that Kinji didn't connected the whole story linking Aria to Sherlock Holmes, to now o.O . And Shirayuki just made me lol :D By this episode, I'm sure that Hidan no Aria's OST is just great. I do not regret watching it at all ^__^ |
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| i honestly cant believe that they censored this...it was such a pointless censor...censoring the bra or pantie shots is the most pointless thing IMO they are no different from bikinis..imagine if they censored every beach episode in an anime. o well..anything to increase dvd sales i guess. but besides that it was a great episode. although still the magical hair ruins it a little. |
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