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| The anime is good, while most of the staff are shit am not going to drop it , but may be next time the Silver Link adopt an anime, i won't watch |
| Definitely not. The bad reputation has already affected the careers of those responsible. So I don't see any logical point as to why I should drop something I enjoy. |
| It's a good series but, I sometimes its just crazy boring and, I cant even watch it ~_~ on the other hand at some moments it's just done amazingly that I cant wait for more. |
| No. Dipshits are dipshits. Good anime is good anime. Both are separate things. |
| The anime is great, why should I drop it? They overreacted to that prank... Some people can't take a joke. |
| I didn't really care too much about the incident. I watch the show for free so dropping it means jack shit to me. If I were in Japan and bought BDs, then maybe I would care since my money would actually support the show, causing me to be more critical of what cast/staff members do outside of it. So no, I wont be dropping because of it. That's just silly considering the majority of us here leech off Japan. Unless you spend money on the anime, I don't see how this would cause you to drop it unless you get butthurt too easily over trivial things that have little to no effect on the actual show. |
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| WHAT? Drop?! KOKORO CONNECT? You crazy brah? I couldn't care less about that incident. Anime is Anime. |
| I love the fuck out of this anime. I wouldn't drop it for ANY reason! |
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| Not for that reason, but I am considering dropping it because it's simply a bad anime. |
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| Not a chance to dropped |
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| I don't care even if this company killed babies. I'm not dropping it. |
| The joke probably left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, but it's not something immoral, you know? Has nothing to do with the series itself and Kokoro Connect definitely deserves to be serialized further. |
| I dropped it for a different reason, the drama in the anime is getting just irritating. |
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| I like this series. At first: I was WTF at the controversy and sympathize for the no-name VA Next day: WTF, this shit still ongoing? (totally forgetting about the VA). |
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| Don't give a fuck what happened. So no not dropping. |
| No chance at all it took awhile to get into it but its a good anime. |
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Axeria said: Dropped it before I knew this incident it was simply boring to watch. skyjlv said: I dropped it for a different reason, the drama in the anime is getting just irritating. Veronin said: Not for that reason, but I am considering dropping it because it's simply a bad anime. Pretty much this. Well, it's not that much a bad anime as it is a boring and unrealistic one. The characters are paper cut-outs and every thing that leaves their mouth feels incredibly fake to me. It's like I'm watching bad actors acting out a great idea. Which might be worse than watching bad actors acting out a bad idea. Well, I'm still watching it, but pretty much just waiting for it to end... I dunno, might drop it soon. I knew nothing about any incident and I still don't, 'cause why should I care? |
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| nope its too fucking good. |
| Well, can't be helped if everyone have their own opinions. As for me, I enjoyed this show as much as Hyouka and SAO, so I'm definitely not dropping it. I think this anime is quite innovative, and if you say that this anime is unrealistic, isn't that the point of making it an anime? I mean, if you want something realistic, wouldn't you watch hollywood movies instead? |
asakuraShinji said: I think this anime is quite innovative, and if you say that this anime is unrealistic, isn't that the point of making it an anime? I mean, if you want something realistic, wouldn't you watch hollywood movies instead? I don't watch things that aren't animated. I just never enjoyed those. And by "realistic" I meant something along the lines of "psychologically realistic". You know, the type of characters that don't just ignore an alien possessing their teacher or take more than one episode to suddenly get all "love you platonically, let's have sex" for a friend. Nitpicking, I know. Dragon_Slayer_X said: Some people just can't appreciate good animes..........seriously how are they boring and unrealistic that much and tell me at least one anime to your liking that is realistic. I really want to know. I watch mainly comedies, so not many realistic ones on my list... But Hyouka is awesome. Also Usagi Drop and my all time favorite CLANNADs. Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not hating here. I really wanted to appreciate Kokoro Connect, because I think the ideas are great - it's just... they don't work for me at all. The characters were introduced all at once, so I had trouble keeping up with who's who for a good couple of episodes. The fact that they were swapping bodies certainly didn't help. Also, I don't care one bit for any of the bunch. Because I don't see people, I see actors, tools. They don't have much personalities, outside of being overly troubled by something and moping for a couple of episodes because of that. The worst thing about this anime though and the source of all the other shortcomings, is that it doesn't have any direction and therefore nothing happens. The characters don't have any kind of goal they want to achieve, we see them doing literally nothing and we're supposed to be eagerly waiting for the next episode. Some kind of supernatural jerk takes over their teacher's body and throws their lives into disarray. What do they do? Angst a bit and then go along with it. That's probably the main reason they feel unrealistic to me. I hoped for the dark-haired-no-mole girl (10 eps, still don't remember their names) to spur them into action, she seemed like "don't screw with me" type that would start an investigation when the chaos first started. And what does she do? Suddenly loves the lame guy ("falls in love" would indicate something happened to make it that way, whereas it's the exact opposite), creates a f*cking "love" triangle and gets depressed for about 3 whole episodes. That's why I lost all hope for KC to get any better. One more thing. You can argue that the need for "direction" only applies for some stories. A hero saving the world? We look forward to the world being saved in the end. A "get-the-guy" generic shoujo romance? We wait for when the two finally get together for f*ck's sake. And so on, and so on. But some anime don't have a clear ending in perspective, they take us for "let's see what happens next" ride. Hyouka, for example - we know at least two characters share some chemistry but the romance is not the focus. We have brilliant mystery arcs, long ones and short, one-ep-long ones. But we get explanations and move on. The goal is ultimately the same as the Kokoro Connect's one is supposed to be - for characters to grow, develop and learn. But in Hyouka, even if not much happens, the characters DO something. They encounter a situation, a problem and don't just ignore it (they would if the protagonist had anything to say but still). In Kokoro Connect there's been ONE episode I can distinguish from the rest (ep 5), all the others I remember as "the characters hanging around the club room, doing some talking and some moping", that's it. Things aren't moving forward, because there are no things to be moving forward. Even the "villain"'s motivation are vague and unclear. He (it?) just wants things to be "interesting". Well, guess what, you're failing. As always, I ended up writing 100 times the amount I intended. In the end de gustibus non est disputandum and if you're enjoying Kokoro Connect, good for you, I'm actually a bit jealous of that, but it's not for me, so yeah. Just don't say Dragon_Slayer_X said: Some people just can't appreciate good animes... because I like to believe I actually can. Your "good" is quite different from mine is all. I'm probably a picky guy anyway, 'cause I have no idea what people like about such popular ones as Bakemonogatari (aside from 3 of the openings), K-On (the anime I have the closest to HATE! relationship with), Ouran Host Club, Hetalia, Shakugan no Shana or Zero no Tsukaima (well, except for season 2 episode 9, that was epic). Also, Hinagiku Katsura sucks. But peace anyway. Let's enjoy the anime we each like. |
ewormSep 11, 2012 5:13 AM
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| I won't drop the anime because of the controversy. The careers of the people involved will get damaged enough without me not having to stop watching the show. I AM close to dropping the show because of the fact that I'm tired of watching it spin its wheels for a dozen episodes. There is no plot being developed here- we get a bunch of underdeveloped teenagers (The only character in the group of 5 that I remain interested is Inaba, and as eworm noted, they've come dangrously close to killing the character by sucking her into a bullshit love triangle with cardboard cutout Taichi and then having her angst for multiple episodes) learn more about themselves through supernatural means, and then cause this to change their interactions among each other through a massive amount of dramatics. I'd be able to ignore the dramatics, if there was any sort of diversity here. But there really isn't. We're going through the same pattern- supernatural behavior occurs, Heartseed appears and exposits about the behavior, the group then angsts about the behavior and drift apart, and then slowly learn that they have to work together in order to overcome the problem. Regarding the characters- I want somebody to explain to me how, say, Taichi is fleshed out. Or Iori. Or the other male character- his name escapes me for the moment. I might be able to give an argument regarding Yui and Inaba being 3-dimensional to some degree, but even that is debatable. The story is even waving possible points of depth in front of my face- Iori's mixed feelings about the new development, because it will allow her to act upon her deep desires, and thus she can learn more about who she really is- and then never really do much with it. Now let's move on to Heartseed. Heartseed has no personality, or character traits, or... anything. He acts as a plot device. That's it. It's incredibly cheap, because the only thing Heartseed being a "character" adds to the story is that it allows the show to exposit about the new developments, instead of having the characters have to figure out everything by themselves. When Iori possessed Character X back in episode 2, and spouted some pseudo-philosophical rhetoric, for a moment I actually thought that Heartseed might be able to possess people and replicate their speech patterns. That could have been a cool twist, and added a nice dash of paranoia to the story. The show decided to not go that way, and in my opinion suffers because of it. Connect needs to get to some point, fast. Or I'm going to lose interest. |
| Is that... a chance for an actual discussion of opinions? Sign me up! Let me do that the old-fashioned Internet way - by quoting parts of your post and explaining some stuff. Dragon_Slayer_X said: First, this is not your typical anime so if just push aside the fact that heartseed is an alien (they can't do anything about that this is not a super hero show tbh) and try to see the dilemmas they face and how they cope with with it you are gonna enjoy it no doubt about it. I have no problem putting the alien thing aside (I don't even know if he/it is an alien, was there any explanation about him/it whatsoever?) because the "one supernatural element influences people's lives" type of stories are one of my favorites. But, and here's something you didn't understand - I usually have no trouble sympathizing with characters and I am actually trying here also. The problem is, Kokoro Connect's cast is way too flat and uninteresting to care. They have no dreams or ambitions, no personalities not even any trouble aside from the supernatural element. And that one problem, as Mictlanbound pointed out, is always dealt with the same way - one character makes an oopsie, mopes about it, they learn they have to stick together regardless and everything's cheerful again. It bores me, plain and simply. Dragon_Slayer_X said: Second, 1. if you had tried to watch the show properly from the 1st episode there is no way you can say that "take more than one episode to suddenly get all "love you platonically, let's have sex" for a friend" type of stuff about this anime. Try to put yourself in the character's shoes and only then you can enjoy these types of anime. 2. Every persona have these types of inner desires it pretty normal unless they are too much religious(no offense i am being practical). 1. I watched 10 episodes. There was almost no indication of the girl in question being in love in the guy in Taichi. We see her look at him a couple of times (without blushing or any other possible indicator of any special feelings, just looking) and suddenly her unleashed desire is to have sex on a table. If that didn't come out of nowhere, then I don't know what did. 2. I agree with you that every person has desires (religious people also, naturally, I'm one of them). But that's precisely what these characters lack! Sure, they call it "desire unleashing" but those are not desires. Those are emotions. They feel anger during an argument - they suddenly start a fight. She's alone with the guy she "loves" - she gets unnaturally hot. The only unleashed thing close to a "desire" was hunger. Played for laughs. Desires is what I'd call her hopes and dreams. Even the smallest ones like getting good grades on the next test or holding their girlfriend's hand on a walk. But they're all perfectly happy already, they're problems are more or less imaginary. The only character with a little depth is the mole girl, I admit I kind of like the "searching for the true me" thing, but even that is downplayed, despite the fact she herself was actually hoping to accomplish something with the desire unleashing. Dragon_Slayer_X said: Third, Hyouka is awesome i admit but what is the central plot here? Because the meaning of "Hyouka" was revealed in episode 5 after that there are some random stuff and mystery solving and its mostly about Oreki and Chitanda's relationship. If you can tell me otherwise then please do so. And Chintanda's annoying character make me want to stop sometimes but Oreki, Satoshi and Mayaka has some good development. But no central plot here and the mysteries are not that interesting or nothing special in most cases. Also i would like to add that some mysteries were plain annoying for example the mystery in episode 2....why in the world anyone would be curious about that but it was amazing to see how Oreki solved it. And this coming from a guy who likes the show. Well, that I already mentioned in my previous post, maybe you missed it: eworm said: But some anime don't have a clear ending in perspective, they take us for "let's see what happens next" ride. Hyouka, for example - we know at least two characters share some chemistry but the romance is not the focus. We have brilliant mystery arcs, long ones and short, one-ep-long ones. But we get explanations and move on. The goal is ultimately the same as the Kokoro Connect's one is supposed to be - for characters to grow, develop and learn. But in Hyouka, even if not much happens, the characters DO something. They encounter a situation, a problem and don't just ignore it (they would if the protagonist had anything to say but still). Dragon_Slayer_X said: Fourth, 1. you said Kokoro Connect doesn't have any directions which is funny seeing as Hyouka is not that different and you like it. 2. Kokoro Connect has much better character development and the situations are much more interesting as it actually helps them to develop and understand their shortcomings. So in hyouka everyone does something but Oreki ends up solving the mysteries eventually and in Kokoro Connect everyone tries to cope with the situation and Taichi ends up helping them in most case (some people rage about this very point). You didn't analyze your favourite show that properly as i can see it. 1. Not "like", "adore". But yeah, it kind of baffles me too. 2. I can't agree people moping in their room or getting into fights (the epitome of things happening in KC) is more interesting than the whole school searching for a mysterious, elusive thief or deducing an old mystery behind the school's festival. The characters in Hyouka are better developed too. We see Satoshi being unable to find anything he excels in while having to observe his best friend being a genius despite not even trying much. We see Chitanda (how can you say she has no personality, seriously) having trouble asking people for favors because of her shyness and constantly worrying about troubling her friends, constantly apologizing, apparently really afraid of losing people close to her. We see Oreki starting out as a lazy bum with no goals or ambitions and slowly realizing he can and should help people with his newly discovered deduction talent. Even side characters have a lot of depth, heck, even the characters that do not appear at all and are only mentioned because of the mysteries (Hyouka's uncle, the writer of the movie, the creator behind the manga masterpiece, the airplane-teacher and more)! Dragon_Slayer_X said: How are they not doing anything? They are trying their to cope with their situation in their own way or what they think is best wrong though it maybe. They are growing up as the series progresses its clear as day but you think they are not doing anything at all which is another one of your misunderstandings. I'm not misunderstanding anything here. They don't try to cope with the situation, they're trying to go on as if nothing is wrong. They don't change their lifestyles at all, until something relatively bad (most of the time an argument) happens - then they get depressed and hide in their rooms. Why aren't they trying to figure out something about the [insert whatever the name of the alien-like guy is] and his/its powers, motives? They literally ignore the bastard and he/it has to appear right in front of them, otherwise they don't even care about the fact he/it might want to keep screwing their lives 'till they all die painfully or something. Heck, if he/it wants them to get interesting, they could actually try to do something crazy together and make him/it f*ck off at last. Nope, they're going to wait until his/its patience runs out and he/it attempts to kill one of them again. Dragon_Slayer_X said: as i said Taichi and Inaba are some of the most realistic characters i have seem in anime. If someone says they are plain characters then they must have very dull analyzing skills (sorry for being rude). If you can't distinguish the characters then that's your problem. Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Angel Beats, Durarara!!...........these type anime had tons of characters and i can remember most of them so remembering 5 characters with unique personalities in not very tough for me. Angel Beats! is great (not necessarily for the entire cast, though the mains are developed well enough IMO). Haven't seen the rest of what you're talking about, so I can't say much, but about those "analyzing skills" you write about. First - if you have to analyze the characters, they are badly written characters. You should be able to get the characters' personalities, motives, ways and goals without doing any analysis, just instinctively. It all should be given to you, easy to recognize and digest. The personalities of KC's cast as I see it: Taichi - cares a lot for his friends and always wants to help them. Kind of a moron, but it is him who gets the others out of their rooms... Aoki - he likes the blond girl and is way too vocal about it. Inaba - he likes Taichi, but didn't want to get in the way of her friend, the mole-girl. In other words, she makes the anime about five times worse by creating the hated and unoriginal "love triangle" subplot. Iori - the one with a trace of a personality. She always tried to be liked by people and so she always puts a facade. Because of that, she's lost as to how she really is and hopes Taichi will help her figure it out (pff, yeah, good luck with that). Yui - because of a near-rape experience she was afraid of men during her arc. Has no trouble with two guys coming into her room and bragging about getting her to a love hotel a few episodes later. Seriously, I know they talked about it, but those are psychological scars, she would not be over it that quickly. Yeah, you can argue she can trust them more, but heck, that one guy constantly repeats how much he adores her and the desire unleashing was still going on. Let's face it, she would be afraid as f*ck. I'd be really glad if you manage to describe them better for me. Dragon_Slayer_X said: And i agree we all have different tastes. As i guy, i don't like shoujo, reverse harem, yaoi genres.....they give me the chills most of the time but slice of life should be same for all. Yaoi, yuri, harems are indeed a big no. If I were you, I wouldn't completely gloss over shoujo though as I've managed to find a few pearls among all that crap. The comedy in a shoujo might be surprisingly enjoyable (Tokyo Innocent, Itazura na Kiss) and when the romance isn't everything there is, it can make a very, very pleasant read (Love so Life). |
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| Wow, eworm basically nailed everything I would have said before I could say it. I'll just toss in a couple things of my own. Dragon_Slayer_X said: First, this is not your typical anime so if just push aside the fact that heartseed is an alien (they can't do anything about that this is not a super hero show tbh) and try to see the dilemmas they face and how they cope with with it you are gonna enjoy it no doubt about it. It doesn't matter what Heartseed is. If they don't develop Heartseed and just have him wandering around, that's a problem. I don't care if Heartseed is a protagonist or an antagonist- a law of good writing is to give your characters a concrete identity. The writers of Connect didn't even bother; he's been just a walking, talking plot device for the last 10 episodes. Dragon_Slayer_X said: Second, if you had tried to watch the show properly from the 1st episode there is no way you can say that "take more than one episode to suddenly get all "love you platonically, let's have sex" for a friend" type of stuff about this anime. I'm with eworm here. Inaba and Taichi had... maybe two scenes where you could argue that there might be some kind of emotional or romantic connection for that entire first arc. Now, after Taichi has gotten involved with another character, I'm supposed to believe that these two have romantic feelings for each other? Please list scenes where Inaba and Taichi's romantic relationship is clearly developed. (Not just foreshadowed, developed. If I can't tell what the origin of these romantic feelings are, it still just comes out of left field that Inaba is into the guy in the first place.) Also, you're sounding more than a little elitist there when you say "well, if you'd watched the show properly, you'd agree with me". Now, I COULD be misinterpreting that, but that's really how it comes across. Dragon_Slayer_X said: Try to put yourself in the character's shoes and only then you can enjoy these types of anime. Why do you think I wanted to like this show, and have stuck around for 10 episodes? I like slice of life. I like psychological thrillers. Put the two together, and things should work out pretty well. Except that these characters aren't acting like people, they are acting like what a mediocre writer thinks people would act like, as eworm has pointed out. Dragon_Slayer_X said: Kokoro Connect has much better character development and the situations are much more interesting as it actually helps them to develop and understand their shortcomings. I want you to give me a paragraph on each character. Not bulletpoints, a legitimate paragraph describing each character and what makes them tick without repeating yourself or emphasizing one point over and over again. I don't think you can. Dragon_Slayer_X said: They are growing up as the series progresses its clear as day but you think they are not doing anything at all which is another one of your misunderstandings. You asserting that it's "clear as day" doesn't make it so. The characters go through basically the exact same problem the second time through as they did the first time through- their inability to communicate with each other. That's not growing up. Dragon_Slayer_X said: I have already given in a post in earlier threads for episode 8 discussing the characters so i won't do one again you can read it if you have time but as i said Taichi and Inaba are some of the most realistic characters i have seem in anime. Quote it. I'm not going to search through the forums to make an argument for you. Or just summarize, I'm not picky. But you really need to support the claim that these characters are well developed. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: eworm said: The problem is, Kokoro Connect's cast is way too flat and uninteresting to care. They have no dreams or ambitions, no personalities not even any trouble aside from the supernatural element. And that one problem, as Mictlanbound pointed out, is always dealt with the same way - one character makes an oopsie, mopes about it, they learn they have to stick together regardless and everything's cheerful again. It bores me, plain and simply. To be honest, my view is they are simply more interesting as they are normal and face with problems that most of us face in real life. I don't think you can deny that. We are getting something different than shows like i "i am different from you because i have some kind of demon/special power/etc etc inside me but still love conquers all etc etc" i hope you get my point. Yes. They do face realistic problems. But do they act in a realistic way given their situation? Not really. They basically just suck it up until everything starts to fall apart and begin panicking because they can't figure out what to do. They take the most basic of precautionary measures, and then just kind of assume that everything will work out. The first time around? I could accept that. This second time around, particularly with the stakes so much higher? No. That isn't realistic. Dragon_Slayer_X said: In the desire unleash arc, their group was almost at a breaking point but outside characters like Gotou and Class Rep helped them in some ways without knowing about the problem and its pretty different from the first time they recovered from their problems. Not really. I mean, sure, this time Fujishima and Gotou got involved... but why did they have to? Honestly, the way to solve this wasn't rocket science- if you get all your desires out into the open, they stop building up and up and up and finally releasing at inopportune moments. Opening up communications and actually trusting each other was the main theme of the first arc. Now it's the same problem all over again. Yet not a single one of them could realize it. Dragon_Slayer_X said: So the point about moping and sticking together stuff is really invalid. After Yui gets into a fight and breaks a desk, she locks herself in her room for most of the arc. After around two episodes, Inaba breaks down mentally and refuses to associate with a single one of them. "Moping" was the main way they kept the most rational character in the group from actually thinking about ways to get around the problem. And I'm not sure how that conclusion follows from your reasoning. Dragon_Slayer_X said: 1. I think you missed some scenes between them like the trash picking in ep 3, the confession in ep 4 and the way their interactions were. So a girl has to blush everytime when she is with the guy she likes??? Inaba can hold those emotions back pretty well. But it hinted about her feelings about Taichi that she had some feelings for him. So it wasn't that shocking when something like that happened in ep 6. You found the two scenes I could think of. The first of which does genuinely have some romantic build up... while the second just kind of implies that Inaba has a thing for him, basically coming out of absolutely nowhere. If they had gone the route they were with the first example, and actually had that build up to the near-sex scene, then it would be believable. But instead we get one token "love interest" scene, one "Okay I think I have a thing for you" scene where there basically is no slow progression between scene #1 and scene #2, and then suddenly "NOW WE WANT TO MAKE OUT". Dragon_Slayer_X said: Besides she was trying way too hard to get Taichi and Iori together. The reasons for actions are explained well in episode 10 so i am not repeating it. Now you're the one who is making psychological assumptions. Just because she's rooting for those two to get together doesn't mean that we can't have scenes of her being frustrated at their relationship, or noticeably feeling lonely because the two of them are together. Come on, Inaba is a teenage girl! Teenage girls are all about jealousy and emotional grudges. To me, the whole "release of desire" and "release of intense emotions" debate is just one huge game of semantics. Dragon_Slayer_X said: How are they not trying to cope with the situation? I already said they are trying their own ways even if it's wrong. During the first arc, they tried to stay out of trouble with each others bodies and also didn't break each other trust (just think what a guy can do in a girl's body). Because of that time, a lot of their problems came to light. In the second arc, there actions actually caused them to break up because their method were wrong. Again, my main complaint lies with the second arc, because this arc was really where the writing flaws started to shine through. Like I said, here the characters didn't really... try to solve the problem at all. They took 2-3 basic precautionary measures, and didn't think beyond that. They didn't consider that maybe, just like the last incident had led to a great deal of stress and group troubles... the same thing might happen this time? That it might be worse because what was going on as worse? That maybe they should figure out a way to keep together as a group, and NOT break apart? Dragon_Slayer_X said: And how can you say they went on as if nothing was wrong? Yui wouldn't leave home, Aoki and Taichi got in a heated argument, Iori got hurt, Inaba distanced herself...their group was falling apart but they recovered from that. Inaba distancing herself was all about going through life pretending that nothing was wrong. That was the whole point. Taichi, Iori, and Aoki (Well, Taichi and Aoki. Iori was pretty static for most of the arc, which is really sad considering the build up to some character growth I had referenced earlier) continued to get into fights because they kept on doing the same things over and over, and kept interacting with each other like they had before the whole "desire release" thing became part of the equation. They didn't take care not to offend each other, not to get into fights, to not expend emotional energy... basic things that would have really helped the situation. Dragon_Slayer_X said: I just want to say you are dead wrong here........if that was the case every character would be plain and uninteresting which in turn will make the anime boring. Back story for the characters are given for the viewer understand their motives, personality and goals etc etc. There is no ultimate good or bad character it depends on how people analyze them. I think you are completely misunderstanding what eworm is saying. You shouldn't have to dig deep into the mentality of characters in order to understand them- the layers to the character should be apparent already. If you're having to make effort to really get to the character's depth and inner layers, chances are there never were any in the first place, and you're just looking desperately for things that were never there. I pretty much agree with this. The only exception I've been able to find is the Rebuilds. And Kokoro Connect is not the Rebuild films. Not even close. |
MictlanboundSep 11, 2012 3:49 PM
| The very fact that conversations like this even arise is very unfair to the anime imo. What did the story itself do for people to hate on it? The controversy was done by the staff which has nothing to do with the story. I feel bad for the author who put all his efforts into his LN only for the anime to screw up like it did. All that said i have no intention of dropping it, its an amazing series and no amount of controversy is gonna change that, the only thing that would make me drop it is if the actual show itself was bad, and its obviously not. If you people want to dislike it then go ahead its your right but at least do it for the right reasons. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: The very fact that conversations like this even arise is very unfair to the anime imo. What did the story itself do for people to hate on it? The controversy was done by the staff which has nothing to do with the story. Actually, what we're "walls of text"-ing about is the anime itself, not the "controversy" thing. @Dragon_Slayer_X - I didn't notice anything particularly rude about any of Mictlanbound's posts, though I can understand you seeing it like that. If anybody was saying my favorite show has holes like swiss cheese, I'd probably get pretty irritated too (for example, I still can't accept how you think Chitanda is like the awful K-On! girls). It is indeed difficult to have a decent discussion between people who have total different opinions about one thing. Not impossible, but hard. We'd have to put our "like/dislike" aside and concentrate on facts - like what exactly happened in the show. But even this is hard to think about without making some assumptions. I guess we'd have to end our conversation but I respect both of you for trying to talk without insults and hating. On the Internet we're a rare species. Also, forgive me but I have to say this... Dragon_Slayer_X said: Well i don't expect much from someone who rate awesome animes like Naruto, Bleach, Code Geass, Death Note, Eureka 7, Durarara!!, Inu Yasha so low I can actually kind of understand Mictlanbound. From what I gather, Naruto, Bleach, InuYasha and similar series are incredibly long. You was surprised I don't watch them. The reason for that is that, to be frank, I likely wouldn't like them. Because such anime usually don't go anywhere, they just go on, because they're popular. Sometimes for a reason, but some people, me included, want to watch the story from beginning to end and when even the author doesn't seem to know what the ending will be, we get kind of pissed. Also I tend to avoid popular shows, because they tend to be a disappointment (though I kind of consider seeing some of them after watching the masterpiece that is Brotherhood). But cheer up, I also checked Mictlandbound's list and I also found some ratings I definitely can't agree with. Haruhi is nothing great, but definitely should be above "3" IMO, whereas Baccano! and K-On! should be way lower. Again - IMO. Also I love Lucky Star, but in this case I actually understand people who hate it. Anyway. Let's keep watching Kokoro Connect and enjoy it or drop it. Too bad we can't agree on everything, but that's humans. |
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| Just because the anime has a bit of controversy around it doesn't mean you should drop it. Heck, in the end it's a pretty good anime. |
| Looking back on this, I still think it was silly to boycott this show because of the incident. Sure, it was silly and immature, but the seiyuu forgave the perpetrators, and they came out with a public apology; and I applauded the victim for his actions. If he could forgive them for the prank, then I think the rest of us could, too. Personally, I feel like justice has taken precedent over forgiveness as a virtue. |
| 'I met many people. We were separated. And then reunited. This tune contains all those feelings.' - Nanaka Yatsushiro, Myself;Yourself, Episode 13  |
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