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Oct 6, 2008 6:45 AM
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Getting quite interesting, this Kuze has had quite a history.
Aug 3, 2009 1:28 PM
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Yeah.. things are heating up
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Nov 18, 2009 10:01 PM
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I can definitely feel things are going to get intense soon. I had forgotten how much i actually enjoy the new Prime Minster. And Kuze's back story was fairly interesting.
Nov 27, 2009 9:04 AM
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Now we know the background on the rogue Particularist Eleven.
Apr 16, 2010 5:43 AM
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So people naturally gather around him despite his silent nature O_O ... that's different.
Jul 1, 2010 7:16 AM
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I'm glad that we're now getting into Kuze's history, but I just couldn't get into this particular episode.
Nov 23, 2010 9:54 PM
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has anybody entertained the idea that Kuze might be that origami-crane folding boy from the Major's childhood? i say this cuz during the episode ishikiawa mentions that after trading his gun for the camera kuze began to mingle with people and that he spent time FOLDING VARIOUS ORIGAMI FIGURES

im now pretty certain that its the same person from the major's childhood!
Nov 25, 2010 8:38 AM
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Roxxas said:
has anybody entertained the idea that Kuze might be that origami-crane folding boy from the Major's childhood? i say this cuz during the episode ishikiawa mentions that after trading his gun for the camera kuze began to mingle with people and that he spent time FOLDING VARIOUS ORIGAMI FIGURES

im now pretty certain that its the same person from the major's childhood!


Jun 4, 2011 11:59 AM
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Good episode. Kuze, what a peculiar individual..
Jul 27, 2011 2:30 AM
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Roxxas said:
has anybody entertained the idea that Kuze might be that origami-crane folding boy from the Major's childhood? i say this cuz during the episode ishikiawa mentions that after trading his gun for the camera kuze began to mingle with people and that he spent time FOLDING VARIOUS ORIGAMI FIGURES

im now pretty certain that its the same person from the major's childhood!


That's what I thought at first too. But didn't the kid have blond hair? Kuze's was originally black.
Dec 3, 2011 11:21 AM

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Another episode heavy in dialogue with great insight on Kuze's character. There's a lot more to that guy then what initially seemed. I can't help but make the observation that he might be the boy from Motoko's past.

I'm also glad that at this point they are exploring the past, namely the events of the war, A LOT.

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That's what I thought at first too. But didn't the kid have blond hair? Kuze's was originally black.


He also switched to a prosthetic body. Looks in this series don't really matter when it comes to characters.
Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM

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definitely love the episode and the backstory of Hideo Kuze.

i mean he save the village that were slaughtered by bandits. plus surviving the PTSD was definitely hard as hell.

and yeah folding various Origami Figures seems awfully suspicious, but why can he move his mouth in the early episodes???

i also like how he traded his gun for a camera, i guess he wanted saw the living and other and people and began to hang with them. though not saying a word and standing there is hard as hell to socialize.

it seems people are attracted to him for some reason, could it be he's the leader Motoko and Aramaki is talking about(the one the influences millions of people)

and gouda is back!!!!!!!! haven't seen him for awhile :P

great episode, the animation is awesome!!!!!!!!!
Mar 13, 2012 6:03 AM

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Roxxas said:
has anybody entertained the idea that Kuze might be that origami-crane folding boy from the Major's childhood? i say this cuz during the episode ishikiawa mentions that after trading his gun for the camera kuze began to mingle with people and that he spent time FOLDING VARIOUS ORIGAMI FIGURES

im now pretty certain that its the same person from the major's childhood!

Well... I'll be.. I never realized.
Oct 15, 2012 8:00 PM

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That was a pretty boring episode. But I guess this information will be useful for the story in the long run.

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Oct 29, 2012 12:31 PM

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So it might be that Kuze is the boy from Major's past.... interesting...
Dec 25, 2012 2:30 PM

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A very interesting story.

Jan 2, 2013 5:47 PM

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Meh episode tbh, this was one of the weaker ones. I'll just say that much for now but hoping things will pick up on later.
Feb 16, 2013 5:41 PM

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Meh, not really interesting to watch although that sure is an interesting way to talk in private!
Apr 18, 2013 2:29 PM

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So Kuze is highly likely to be the kid from Mokotos past. So my feeling was heading in the right direction, awwwwwwwwwwww yeeah.
May 1, 2013 3:06 PM

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I have a feeling this won't end well for Mr. Origami. :/
Jun 14, 2013 2:03 PM

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This episode was 50-50 but now we know the origin of Kuze and his past. I hope the next episode will have more movement in it.
Jun 29, 2013 8:45 AM
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So he folds origami.. interesting... very interesting indeed...
Sep 23, 2013 5:08 AM

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I feel like there's a connection to the way people flock to Kuze and the way people are drawn to the virus. Surely there is.
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Jan 22, 2014 7:48 AM

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That background... GIS have such an rich setting, the people who designed the universe are genius.

That Kuze is an interresting fellow. It looked like he was with the Individual Eleven, but I'm not sure anymore. The Individual Eleven have an hatred for the refugees and he is really close to the collectivity.

I didn't understood why they hid the village massacre. It was done by the other party, were they hidding the fact that they were completely cybernetized?

The ethymology of the word assassin was really interresting, I didn't know :P
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Feb 24, 2014 3:26 PM
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alot of good information and dialogue. but it was pretty hard to follow the subs when they talk so fast and im norwegian..
Jun 16, 2014 1:58 AM

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5/5

Very interesting episode, after a long pause, the main plot and its subplots are broken down big time.
In the sea of information in this single episode plot is complicated keep up but also intriguing.
Narrative interesting and full of references to other topics that make it even more interesting to follow the story told.
Designs and scenarios very well made.
Discrete animations.
Many points of doubt arose in me.
Jan 27, 2015 10:02 AM

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didn't realize that Kuze might be the boy from the major's past. even when they said the thing about him folding origami i even remembered that the little boy did that and i still didn't make the connection lol. boy, do i feel silly. the story just got all the more interesting.
Feb 17, 2015 9:36 AM

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Nice insight into Kuze's character. I feel like he's going to meet an unfortunate end, and motoko will definitely be involved...

The prime minister is pretty cool c:
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Apr 21, 2015 8:34 AM
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Kuze got some shitty history xD, cool episode nonetheless.
May 13, 2015 6:09 PM

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Was a bit too dense and info-dumpy, but Kuze's military history was cool. Wonder how he went from the dude who was loved by those villagers to the man he is now.
Aug 10, 2015 10:28 AM
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Interesting way of holding a secret meeting. I mean, all that preparation and yet Motoko just got in there and listened to the whole thing without anyone noticing.

Boring backstory-type of episode that gets a few points for being more related to the main plot compared to the previous ones.
Sep 24, 2016 8:30 AM

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Mh while I understand that this backinfo might be useful for further episodes, it was still not very interesting.
Oct 6, 2016 11:13 PM

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Folding origami eh... Hmmm okay
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Dec 19, 2016 3:50 PM

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From origami cranes to paper planes, the man is still soaring.

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Dec 10, 2017 8:01 AM

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Nice episode. Loved the backstory for Japan gaining international relevance again.
It's nice to see that in the eyes of the author of GITS SAC, Japan is not still an American puppet country. The reality of the situation is that since WW2, the bad guys won that war and the axis is being partially or totally controlled by them. Japan is an invaded country, only partially sovereign, same for Germany and in a lesser way Italy.
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Jan 14, 2018 1:15 AM

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So much background on that guy No kidding this series is so famous not most people can right a strong story like this really amazing I hope that Kuze is not the boy cause it will hurt Kusanagi.
Sep 17, 2018 7:54 PM
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That was an interesting attempt to tell Kuze's origin. The background felt epic whole the time!
Oct 2, 2018 5:49 AM

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I like how the Prime Minister cleans Major's cable with a handkerchief before returning it to her, after Major links to her to explain the "Hub".
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May 25, 2019 11:51 AM

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More worldbuilding episode is always a plus for me.

And more history on Kuze too. Origami? I'm sure he's the boy back in Motoko's childhood.

That glasses old Cabinet guy creepily (& closely) sneak up on PM Kayabuki lol

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I like how the Prime Minister cleans Major's cable with a handkerchief before returning it to her, after Major links to her to explain the "Hub".
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Apr 7, 2020 4:32 PM

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Im quite sad, since im at episode 16 and it is so hard for me to follow what they talking about most of the times. I understand that the bad guys (Gohda) are trying to influence the public opinion to get rid of the refugees, that Kuze is some kind of Jesus Christ with his ex rank charisma, and that is the only survivor of the terrorist group.

I enjoyed the movie and the first series alot more so far.
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Jojo reference at the end?
Jan 2, 2021 4:49 PM

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in the flashback episode it was revealed that he has not been heard from since he was shipped out in the last days of the war. Right then I knew that little boy would turn out to be Kuze...
Jun 12, 2023 3:37 PM

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Origami must've become a national pasttime in this universe.


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Mar 2, 12:38 PM
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I can only applaud the quality of the directing and the graphics are amazing work. I really loved the episode and it seems that Kuze has very hidden and deep motives and past.

And yes, the darling of millions, Jodha, is back
Nov 23, 6:46 AM

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Well with Kuze being surrounded by smiling faces in a dark patch of his past and being surrounded by them again in the present, It looks like he's doing what he does best.

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