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| Oh god whoever suggested that ciguatera. Dude the reactions are annoying but i like story line. Back to the topic I thought she was alive at first even though my heart feels like shes dead. The ending was hella confusing. I had to read it 3x 4x to understand it. |
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| Absolutely saddening, at least he became a doctor. The roman club and the OBs were pretty bro through. Somebody mentioned that a manga featuring the Roman club would be cool and I would have to agree. Wish Kurumi didn't die, and we knew what she actually died of. I appreciate how the author to make the ending not so traumatic by showing that everybody was able to move on and live their lives. |
| That moment when you finished reading and go to forum to check people reaction to the ending, and then you realize that you just misunderstood the ending. OMG Fuck!! I did seriously though she's alive... |
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| Decent manga. It's an emotional story and writers should take note in how to properly build a relationship between two characters. Hideo actually develops during the story and improves himself. It was obvious she was going to die she was way too sick to survive (beyond miracle cure). I am with the people who think they didn't have sex at the end. Sundome means something like "stopping right before" so keeping up with the theme he never got to have sex with Kurumi. She lives in his memories but he won't be able to move on (scene with impotence demonstrates this). He will most probably dedicate his entire life to trying to find a cure for Kurumi's disease. Just shows you how love is complex, and every love is unique in it's own way, and never really disappears you just learn to live on. |
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| I think this could have been a bit better .I especially liked the romance between the MC and the heroine .I'm not into femdom (not totally at least) but it was refreshing to read . |
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| Ouch this was saddening. I think the Hideo represented control in Kurumi's life (since she lacked it in other aspects such as health and knowing when she would die). This is why there relationship turned into a S and M one. Its actually beautiful if you really think about it, it seems Hideo was aware of this later on and tried to give Kurumi control over him as much as he could. He was like her security blanket when things got rough. I honestly don't think they had sex at the end, it goes with the theme of stopping just before. The ending with the "wife" shows how much of an effect kurumi chan had on hideo. He has a sexual dysfunction now because he could only get hard to her. She was the one soulmate that he truly loved and if she was alive they would probably have gotten married and lived a normal life, but circumstances did not call for that. The last line I wasn't sure if the "wife" was offering to do the golden shower OR if Hideo was being more assertive about it and asking seriously. Either way he said it herself she still exists in his fetishes, his thoughts, and currently his sexual dysfunction (which I think he is perfectly ok with, its some sort of fucked up reminder for him that he doesn't want to disappear). 9/10 for truly beatiful in a truly perverted story :O. |
| after reading through all 4 pages, and compiling my thoughts with everyone's opinions. my final conclusion was that: Kurumi was also an assasin sent like kyokou, reason being her personal doctor was an alumni and the alumni was providing her a place to stay in return for her carrying out her assasination duties on hideo. as for the end, im leaning more towards the side of they didnt do it, i think she said "lets have sex when i wake up" to get him riled up to carry out his attempt to masturbate for her as she lay on her death bed cause it was obvious once she closed her eyes there, she was never waking up again. |
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| Fuck me.. I knew this was going to destroy me since the "i will never have sex with you" and the hints that the "other" guy was just her Doctor. And yet here i am... |
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| Well, even though the ending of this was obvious around about two-thirds of the way in I still ended up losing it, cried myself to sleep after staying up all night to finish it. I hate it yet love it at the same time, I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a happy ending but I still felt like shit and depressed. I don't think Kurumi was an assassin as one of the first things she says to Hideo is that she will never have sex which is the whole purpose of the assassin, she was terminally ill, being looked after she just wanted some joy in her life and ended up improving the life of Hideo and giving him a reason to live on with a happy life, not to forget either, she even improved Kyouko's life. And at the end, I don't think they did do it in the end either as Hideo ended up going on to be a doctor which was his wish for when he graduated from the club by keeping his virginity. I would say this post on Reddit from a few years back helps clear things up: https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/298mfo/sundome_spoilers/ In the end, I thought this was great, an emotional rollercoaster, it's by no means perfect but I enjoyed it for what it is. |
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| I didn't like the end, it was so stiff and it looked like it was put there only becuse the manga needs to have some end after all.I don't know ,for me that pulled it down from and 8 and now is just one good manga for me. The strenth of the manga was in it's middle, but at the end and in the begining wasnt so hot. |
| This manga was really something. Since i started to reading this i was a bit disappointed by art compared with psychological manga from my favourite Shuuzou Oshimi. But after a few chapters i couldn't stop to read. Even that last chapters (71-76) were very tearful and i was expecting bad end. It wasn't like being shocked so much, because since start we have been prepared, that something bad could happen. But... Seeing her on other side of window with those thingies in her nose was very emotional and last chapter was a bit confusing, but there's sure, that female at the very end wasn't her. I don't like sad endings, because after that i am feeling very weak and in tearful mood. Anyway i had really nice moments reading it |
| lol wtf this ending? =/ I re-read this more than twice and looked like she died The woman with the MC at the end is a random woman with who he married with. NOTE: She has a mole on her chin (Kurumi didn't have one). Anyway, i don't really liked the way it ended. It left many things on air and etc. Kurumi dying from a "?" diseased was lame. Felt somewhat rushed as well. from and 8 to 5 or 6 |
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| Read it throughout the night, could not get enough until... I got punched in the friggin soul. I didn't cry because of the final scenes or the fact that life went on and it was a life where Hideo was seemingly more mature while a major part of Kurumi lived within his new self. And moreover, he knew it, he wanted it and he loved that feeling. It was like a very rusty valve for me but because it was 6 AM and I didn't want to cause a disturbance I curled up in my chair and contracted every part of myself and bawled my eyes out, because I had imagined Kurumi's perspective. She had found genuine, pure love and now as she was slowly dying, what it must feel like to leave behind the person you love most, knowing that it will be so painful for him/her and you can do nothing about it... nothing, you just drift away seeing their face in pain while they struggle to make you happy. fakc.. TωT ... From this manga I gained a new perspective, feel like I lost the real version of this experience felt sick to my stomach all day the probability of having something similar dropped quite sharply as I'm severely confused to what audience this material actually matters because I've yet to meet someone or a variant of my type and I almost lost myself to my suicidal thoughts had I not promised to go to work today. PS. I'm pretty sure the scene on the beach was a handjob: 1 hand visible (explicitly showing that 1 hand at so many angles to make it clear for the reader) and no way in hell would the author draw that scene out - perhaps there was a page, a draft in there, showing it, but because it would shit on the final stages he left it out. I think you can simultaneously be in a heartbreaking inescapable anguish while doing something familiar that in essence is just so conflicting to the negative feeling of imminent loss, of someone who makes every part of your body tingle and almost as if it is not a part of you anymore. In that instance, I believe Hideo could get off by just softly rubbing it on her knuckle or even crotch for that matter. I personally feel that if he would've had sex with her, he would've hated himself forever. If I felt the emotions right, it would not happen. You'd just collapse it all to that instance. |
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| I just finished reading this manga and now I'm more depressed. It was an awesome manga but sad. I didn't even sleep to finish this (it's 5 am in the morning now). I was still hoping that Kurumi will live in the end but :'( anyway, I love this manga. |
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| Last time I read this was 5 months ago. It really broke me inside. Damn. Still depressing every time I remember Sundome fvckk... </3 |
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| I just finished binge reading this in one sitting and like i thought at first that girl at the end was her but now that i went over all the replied here im kinda like yup thats not and i kinda have to accept that. Very sad though, I would like the author to have been clearer in the ending. And maybe get a full explanation of her illness. I like the AIDS theory i read here but yeah. Man. That ending like I think its just the part of them putting him with a new girl at the end is what just sours the whole manga for me. If they didnt include that i would have had a overall better feeling towards it. Nice to see a story that isnt afraid of (sad? ) endings. It made me cry regardless though! |
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pelisita1 said: It was waaaay too sexual, there wasn't a need to have that kind of scenes in every chapter... Think of it this way that a story is being told of people whose character is exactly that sexual. You can get more out of this manga if you allow yourself to understand/empathise/relate to those parts of them. If you'd not show these scenes you'd change the characters, but you have these specific characters in this story. |
| Some people seem confused about the ending so here's the explanation : The ending girl is indeed not Sahana. The author makes it clear that she died on the beach in the previous scene. pelisita1 is right about his theory, Aiba got a job as a doctor thanks to the OB network, a hot wife, but he is impotent because he still loves Sahana and can't forget about her. He asks his wife a golden shower because that's what gave him a boner when he was impotent as a teenager. Aiba and Sahana didn't have sex on the beach either. They just did their usual masturbation stuff. When they go to sleep, Sahana tells him "When I wake up, let's have sex". She tells him that because she knows she is never gonna wake up. She refused to have sex with Aiba because she knew that if she did, Aiba would be eliminated from the OB network, just like the ex president. Thanks to her, MC gets into a medical school because of the OB club and even becomes a doctor at the same hospital. The doctor that we see throughout the story is Sahana's personal physician, and is one of the OBs. He is the one that gave Sahana her little own private studio. In return, he asks Sahana to tempt the MC to lose his virginity with her. Even though his goal is for Aiba to get eliminated from the OB network, he also saw that as an opportunity for Sahana to live her life as best as she could before inevitably dying. He supports their relationship during the story. At the end, he's pleased when the MC mans up and takes her out of the hospital. TLDR ; MC goes from an unconfident unaccomplished loser to a successful doctor stud thanks to Sahana. |
| This was probably one of the ugliest manga I've had the displeasure of reading. |
| Maybe this complaint seems dumb considering this is an ecchi manga, but after some reflection, the extremely sexual ending of Aiba and Sahana's relationship annoys me. Whether it was necrophilia or a hand job, do you really want to spend the last moments with the one you love getting off? It's honestly just gross and distasteful. They travelled all the way to the ocean to enjoy the wave flowers and then all Aiba wants to do is get his dick wet. The direction that was chosen for their final scene honestly weakened the image of their relationship if anything, reaffirming it as mostly physical. |
Epic_MangoJun 6, 2021 10:32 PM
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| Damn, this ending just broke my soul. And I thought it was gonna be a while until I cried this much again after watching Hotaru no Haka last month. Let alone the fact that the kinkiness of their relationship made it even more heartbreaking in that it showed how deep their bond was. |
| Super sad. I didn't really understand the last chapter on my first read, but on my second I think I get it now. But it makes me wonder... after they had sex what did he do with her corpse??? Like??????? |
| Go read Mysterious Girlfriend X, Ookumo-chan Flashback, and Discommunication RIGHT NOW. |
Sugeegus said: When aiba told sahana's personal physician "...when my head starts to hang...if i tighten it here like this...It feels like this part here is being pulled" does that means he tried to hang himself But sahana's "spirit" doesn't let him do it? Nope, he's referring to his metaphorical leash held by Kurumi. In one scene in the hospital before she died he mentions "It felt like my collar's leash had been let go..." This is a callback to that, saying that when he feels down, he can feel Kurumi tugging on his "leash" to tell him to keep his head up and keep going. |
| Go read Mysterious Girlfriend X, Ookumo-chan Flashback, and Discommunication RIGHT NOW. |
| I got into Ibitsu first before Sundome. Hope I'm not breaking any rules here mentioning Ibitsu. The last chapter felt abit rushed, but it was a good closure, Ibitsu was quite painful, so Sundome's ending was quite a relief for me. Okada Kazuto is a master at this genre. I will be moving onto Pansuto next. Will also be checking out other recommendations from the posts in 2011 on page 1. |
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Cancel51 said: This is my interpretation of the ending of Sundome and what I view as evidence to back my interpretation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I stand on the side of those who have said that they didn't have sex. I believe she was giving him a hand job or perhaps not touching him at all. My reasoning for this was the fact that we never see Kurumi's left hand, only her right. Others have said that they are clearly having sex because both of Hideo's hands are being used to support himself so there is no way he could have been masturbating. Hideo has been known to come at the slightest of stimulation, so even if Kurumi wasn't doing anything to him, he still could have come in that situation. Some have said that Hideo started having sex with her and then she died, and he kept on going until climax. Others have said that he started having sex with her once she had already been dead. I don't think either of those theories fit the story, or who Hideo was as a person. That just isn't something he would do. Besides, what kind of person has sex with someone who just died and then thinks, "Oh, I'm about to come! Better pull out!" It just doesn't make sense. Hideo also successfully graduates as a member of the Roman club and is seen working as a resident at the hospital. He wouldn't have been able to do so if he didn't finish high school as a virgin. He never would have been able to work at that hospital if he had quit (lost his virginity) the Roman club because the Director of the hospital, and at least one of the doctors, are Alumni of the club. They wouldn't have let him work at their hospital if he had broken the rule of their club. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe that Kurumi was alive at least until page 23. She is being held close by Hideo as they watch the nami no hana together. The sleeping bag has been zipped up a bit and they both seem to be at peace with slight smiles on their faces. If Kurumi had died at any point before page 23, we would expect to at least see tears on Hideo's face, if not anguish and suffering. Kurumi meant the world to Hideo. I refuse to believe that he would simply lie there calmly if she had just dead. Some may say that he must have been in shock at that point, but his expression on page 23 isn't one of shock. Kurumi then says, "When I wake up, let's have sex". Those are her final words; we know that she doesn't wake up. She chooses those to be her final words in order to let Hideo know that she loved him and would have given herself completely to him had her situation been different. Her illness prevented her from being able/wanting to have sex, be it physically or emotionally, and she made that clear in the beginning of the story. True to her words, they never have sex. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The bit on page 26 about Hideo "tightening" under his neck is clearly a reference to the "collar" that Kurumi put on Hideo. I don't know anything about a shutter reference, but I'm pretty sure he means a collar and he is tugging on a leash. The chapters of Sundome are even called Collars and Hideo himself talks about how he feels his "leash" was let go in chapter 72. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the last page, there are three consecutive panels of Hideo lying down on the bed. In the first, we seem him thinking with his eyes closed as he smiles. In the second panel, we see him open his eyes and glance over to his left hand [which is the hand he used to hold hands with Kurumi as she died]. His smile grows a bit larger. In the final panel, we see him close his eyes again, put his head down, and rest into his hand and arm. He thinks: "You still exist". Kurumi is still very much alive inside Hideo, and he realizes this. She completely shaped him as a person and made him grow into the man we see in this epilogue. He went from someone who was invisible, to someone who took action. He started training his body, got his first job, was able to stand up to his classmates, broke someone out of a hospital, and is even on the road to becoming a doctor. All because of Kurumi's influence. He is reminded of this and is able to be honest with himself. "On second thought... about that golden shower..." I would say this is pretty spot on interpretation. I had to reread it a couple times, but I think you're right. It was a very sad/happy ending. |
| Of course it is a manga that was beyond my expectations and I love that, I think I have understood the end in the most objective way possible. (since the site where I read it, the comments said a lot of nonsense making things up xd) I'm glad I read a small part of that review that made me curious about this manga |
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