Okay the anime ended, pretty decent ending was actually expecting a confession since ep.11 instead but this works.
**HOWEVER**
I tried looking into when Minami and Shiki Start dating but I can’t. HMMMM, please tell me this is not taking a turn into a harem anime with the author milking the series. If I am wrong though please some Manga Reader tell me which chapter they confess to each other??
still can’t believe WE DIDNT GET A CONFESSION LIKE WHAT AFTER A DATE FAR AWAY, TEARS, DEPRESSION, DINNER TOGETHER, SAME HOTEL ROOM SHOWER.etc… Like bro why seriously.
Chapt 100 & 100.2 of the manga. It's a Christmas special because guess what day Fuyuki Minami's birthday is.
It also isn't the end of the story even though it does feel like a finale of sorts.
The anime only gets to about chapt 32 for reference of how for along the story is.
they start dating in Chapter 100...so it's a ways off. Shiki and Minami get closer and closer, though unfortunately there is some lame drama in the middle that takes a while to get resolved.
That being said, once that drama gets resolved its been a fantastic manga IMO, I've been enjoying it immensely since chapter 86 or so. Really feels like the series got a new editor that requested the harem stuff get pushed aside and even more focus given to TsubaMina, which enhanced the manga a ton.
they start dating in Chapter 100...so it's a ways off. Shiki and Minami get closer and closer, though unfortunately there is some lame drama in the middle that takes a while to get resolved.
That being said, once that drama gets resolved its been a fantastic manga IMO, I've been enjoying it immensely since chapter 86 or so. Really feels like the series got a new editor that requested the harem stuff get pushed aside and even more focus given to TsubaMina, which enhanced the manga a ton.
@Super_Boom I'm considering putting the manga in my PTR list so, would you mind telling me (with a spoiler tag, of course) what is this lame drama about? Is it about the other girls, the grandma, Tsubasa's parents/family in Tokyo?
@Super_Boom I'm considering putting the manga in my PTR list so, would you mind telling me (with a spoiler tag, of course) what is this lame drama about? Is it about the other girls, the grandma, Tsubasa's parents/family in Tokyo?
It might sound worse without full context, but basically:
Summary if you don't want too much detail:
Misunderstandings involving the other girls, basically the plot forces Tsubasa and Minami apart temporarily in an annoying way in order to let Rena and Sayuri confess, only for both to be rejected as he loves Minami after all.
Summary if you want the detail:
Tsubasa and Minami get much closer, and he eventually realizes he's in love with her. He confesses during a camping trip, and while she "accepts", she asks for more time to settle things with Sayuri (who admitted to having feelings for Tsubasa to Minami shortly after she got back from studying abroad) and a new male character who confessed to her. Unfortunately, Tsubasa interprets her reaction as a rejection (this might be a translation issue as the scene didn't make much sense honestly), and figures his feelings just weren't mutual, and tells Sayuri and Rena he was just rejected when they press him over what happened.
This could be resolved just by talking...however...Rena decides to use the opportunity to confess herself. Tsubasa doesn't reject her right away as he's still reeling, but due to more misunderstandings Minami and Sayuri overhear the confession and interpret it as Tsubasa rebounding immediately after being "rejected", and Minami starts to distance herself as she's upset that Tsubasa moved on.
Eventually Tsubasa rejects Rena as he's still in love with Minami, and Sayuri finds out the truth. However...instead of talking it over with Minami, Sayuri uses the opportunity to confess herself. Sayuri has a bit of an arc leading to her confession...though it ends the same way as Rena.
Finally once that's all settled, Sayuri pushes Tsubasa to get closer to Minami, and the two start to get closer again, which is where the manga finally gets back on course.
Overall, I think the whole point of it was to allow Rena and Sayuri to confess, and so the author needed some drama to justify them confessing despite Tsubasa falling for Minami relatively early...though I thought the execution was pretty poor, and kind of made Sayuri and Rena look pretty terrible in the process. Both stepped aside gracefully and support the main couple now, if that's any solace though
I do think the manga becomes very good/excellent once it gets back on track, but the drama in the middle does take a while to get through. It starts in chapter 62, and so if you find it hard to stomach, I recommend jumping to 88/89, everything after that has been super fun/wholesome to read, and its one of my top rom-coms currently.
It might sound worse without full context, but basically:
Summary if you don't want too much detail:
Misunderstandings involving the other girls, basically the plot forces Tsubasa and Minami apart temporarily in an annoying way in order to let Rena and Sayuri confess, only for both to be rejected as he loves Minami after all.
Summary if you want the detail:
Tsubasa and Minami get much closer, and he eventually realizes he's in love with her. He confesses during a camping trip, and while she "accepts", she asks for more time to settle things with Sayuri (who admitted to having feelings for Tsubasa to Minami shortly after she got back from studying abroad) and a new male character who confessed to her. Unfortunately, Tsubasa interprets her reaction as a rejection (this might be a translation issue as the scene didn't make much sense honestly), and figures his feelings just weren't mutual, and tells Sayuri and Rena he was just rejected when they press him over what happened.
This could be resolved just by talking...however...Rena decides to use the opportunity to confess herself. Tsubasa doesn't reject her right away as he's still reeling, but due to more misunderstandings Minami and Sayuri overhear the confession and interpret it as Tsubasa rebounding immediately after being "rejected", and Minami starts to distance herself as she's upset that Tsubasa moved on.
Eventually Tsubasa rejects Rena as he's still in love with Minami, and Sayuri finds out the truth. However...instead of talking it over with Minami, Sayuri uses the opportunity to confess herself. Sayuri has a bit of an arc leading to her confession...though it ends the same way as Rena.
Finally once that's all settled, Sayuri pushes Tsubasa to get closer to Minami, and the two start to get closer again, which is where the manga finally gets back on course.
Overall, I think the whole point of it was to allow Rena and Sayuri to confess, and so the author needed some drama to justify them confessing despite Tsubasa falling for Minami relatively early...though I thought the execution was pretty poor, and kind of made Sayuri and Rena look pretty terrible in the process. Both stepped aside gracefully and support the main couple now, if that's any solace though
I do think the manga becomes very good/excellent once it gets back on track, but the drama in the middle does take a while to get through. It starts in chapter 62, and so if you find it hard to stomach, I recommend jumping to 88/89, everything after that has been super fun/wholesome to read, and its one of my top rom-coms currently.
@Super_Boom I see. Well, I can always skim through the pages in case I feel it's too much of a pain. Never a fan of drama based on miscommunication if I'm honest.
Are Rena and Sayuri still friends with Minami tho? Because taking advantage of Minami and the situation indeed talk very poorly of them.
@Super_Boom I see. Well, I can always skim through the pages in case I feel it's too much of a pain. Never a fan of drama based on miscommunication if I'm honest.
Are Rena and Sayuri still friends with Minami tho? Because taking advantage of Minami and the situation indeed talk very poorly of them.
Thanks for the super detailed explanation ^^
@SouthRzVa Yeah I get that, miscommunication is really stupid. I guess you can argue that it makes sense with high school aged characters, but its still not fun to sit through.
No hard feelings between the girls, though to be fair we don't see Rena interact with the other two much in general, since she's a senpai. Still, both give Minami their full support right before the big confession happens, and both congratulate Tsubasa and Minami when they get together (Sayuri jokes that they'll probably be married in 5 years).
And no problem! Hope you like it if you end up reading :D
It might sound worse without full context, but basically:
Summary if you don't want too much detail:
Misunderstandings involving the other girls, basically the plot forces Tsubasa and Minami apart temporarily in an annoying way in order to let Rena and Sayuri confess, only for both to be rejected as he loves Minami after all.
Summary if you want the detail:
Tsubasa and Minami get much closer, and he eventually realizes he's in love with her. He confesses during a camping trip, and while she "accepts", she asks for more time to settle things with Sayuri (who admitted to having feelings for Tsubasa to Minami shortly after she got back from studying abroad) and a new male character who confessed to her. Unfortunately, Tsubasa interprets her reaction as a rejection (this might be a translation issue as the scene didn't make much sense honestly), and figures his feelings just weren't mutual, and tells Sayuri and Rena he was just rejected when they press him over what happened.
This could be resolved just by talking...however...Rena decides to use the opportunity to confess herself. Tsubasa doesn't reject her right away as he's still reeling, but due to more misunderstandings Minami and Sayuri overhear the confession and interpret it as Tsubasa rebounding immediately after being "rejected", and Minami starts to distance herself as she's upset that Tsubasa moved on.
Eventually Tsubasa rejects Rena as he's still in love with Minami, and Sayuri finds out the truth. However...instead of talking it over with Minami, Sayuri uses the opportunity to confess herself. Sayuri has a bit of an arc leading to her confession...though it ends the same way as Rena.
Finally once that's all settled, Sayuri pushes Tsubasa to get closer to Minami, and the two start to get closer again, which is where the manga finally gets back on course.
Overall, I think the whole point of it was to allow Rena and Sayuri to confess, and so the author needed some drama to justify them confessing despite Tsubasa falling for Minami relatively early...though I thought the execution was pretty poor, and kind of made Sayuri and Rena look pretty terrible in the process. Both stepped aside gracefully and support the main couple now, if that's any solace though
I do think the manga becomes very good/excellent once it gets back on track, but the drama in the middle does take a while to get through. It starts in chapter 62, and so if you find it hard to stomach, I recommend jumping to 88/89, everything after that has been super fun/wholesome to read, and its one of my top rom-coms currently.
Heyy 👋 (late af reply Ik)
Could u help me out by telling me after sayuri gets to know abt rena’s rejection and confesses herself. Does minami find out about it..like does she get to know that Tsubasa didn’t just move on quickly and find other options. Or does she just get close with Tsubasa again forgetting what happened and without her realising about the misunderstanding.
Sorry I’ve probably phrased this in a very shit and complicated way😭 I know this isn’t that important question but it’d put my head to ease knowing she doesn’t somewhere in her heart think Tsubasa is like that.
It might sound worse without full context, but basically:
Summary if you don't want too much detail:
Misunderstandings involving the other girls, basically the plot forces Tsubasa and Minami apart temporarily in an annoying way in order to let Rena and Sayuri confess, only for both to be rejected as he loves Minami after all.
Summary if you want the detail:
Tsubasa and Minami get much closer, and he eventually realizes he's in love with her. He confesses during a camping trip, and while she "accepts", she asks for more time to settle things with Sayuri (who admitted to having feelings for Tsubasa to Minami shortly after she got back from studying abroad) and a new male character who confessed to her. Unfortunately, Tsubasa interprets her reaction as a rejection (this might be a translation issue as the scene didn't make much sense honestly), and figures his feelings just weren't mutual, and tells Sayuri and Rena he was just rejected when they press him over what happened.
This could be resolved just by talking...however...Rena decides to use the opportunity to confess herself. Tsubasa doesn't reject her right away as he's still reeling, but due to more misunderstandings Minami and Sayuri overhear the confession and interpret it as Tsubasa rebounding immediately after being "rejected", and Minami starts to distance herself as she's upset that Tsubasa moved on.
Eventually Tsubasa rejects Rena as he's still in love with Minami, and Sayuri finds out the truth. However...instead of talking it over with Minami, Sayuri uses the opportunity to confess herself. Sayuri has a bit of an arc leading to her confession...though it ends the same way as Rena.
Finally once that's all settled, Sayuri pushes Tsubasa to get closer to Minami, and the two start to get closer again, which is where the manga finally gets back on course.
Overall, I think the whole point of it was to allow Rena and Sayuri to confess, and so the author needed some drama to justify them confessing despite Tsubasa falling for Minami relatively early...though I thought the execution was pretty poor, and kind of made Sayuri and Rena look pretty terrible in the process. Both stepped aside gracefully and support the main couple now, if that's any solace though
I do think the manga becomes very good/excellent once it gets back on track, but the drama in the middle does take a while to get through. It starts in chapter 62, and so if you find it hard to stomach, I recommend jumping to 88/89, everything after that has been super fun/wholesome to read, and its one of my top rom-coms currently.
Heyy 👋 (late af reply Ik)
Could u help me out by telling me after sayuri gets to know abt rena’s rejection and confesses herself. Does minami find out about it..like does she get to know that Tsubasa didn’t just move on quickly and find other options. Or does she just get close with Tsubasa again forgetting what happened and without her realising about the misunderstanding.
Sorry I’ve probably phrased this in a very shit and complicated way😭 I know this isn’t that important question but it’d put my head to ease knowing she doesn’t somewhere in her heart think Tsubasa is like that.
Since the manga mostly follows Tsubasa's POV, we don't see much of Minami after he rejects Rena. We see him trying to walk home with her after Rena's rejection, but Minami acts like she has something to do. We do get her POV a little bit while having dinner with her extended family (there are a lot of Fuyukis!), and we learn that she's trying to move on by avoiding him, but after talking with her little sister it's implied she won't give up on him after all.
Once Sayuri learns about Rena's rejection and starts her own little arc, we barely see any Minami, just random appearances in class and their field trip now and again. Probably my least favorite part of the manga, and one I'll skip if/when I re-read it from the beginning. When it ends with Tsubasa admitting he still loves Minami and turning Sayuri down, Sayuri explains the two had a misunderstanding, and regrets that she got in Tsubasa and Minami's way. Honestly while she's my least favorite of the three girls, it was a nice moment for her to show some self-awareness, since I definitely felt like she was being a crappy friend to Minami during that whole arc.
Once Tsubasa and Minami finally start getting chapters together again, Minami gets excited that Tsubasa wants to walk home with her again. During their conversation she mentions she spent time with Sayuri and Asuka (the dark-skinned girl that barely appeared in the anime) recently, and how the three talked about love. While we don't see it, the obvious implication is that Sayuri admitted to everything, including the misunderstanding, Rena's rejection, and her own rejection (and possibly that she was rejected due to Tsubasa loving Minami)...which would explain why Minami is now open to spending time with Tsubasa and recover their relationship, which continues until the two get together and start dating.
In my personal opinion, I think this manga never should have been a harem in the first place, and I think the author realized that at some point with how much they would write Tsubasa and Minami together, and with how relatively early Rena and Sayuri's confessions and rejections happen (Rena rejected around 70 and Sayuri in 84, manga is currently on chapter 111). Still, I suppose the way it rolled out gave the other girls their own focus arcs before the unstoppable Minami ship rolled in, just wish Minami was given a little more perspective during that time since she's basically a co-main character.
Since the manga mostly follows Tsubasa's POV, we don't see much of Minami after he rejects Rena. We see him trying to walk home with her after Rena's rejection, but Minami acts like she has something to do. We do get her POV a little bit while having dinner with her extended family (there are a lot of Fuyukis!), and we learn that she's trying to move on by avoiding him, but after talking with her little sister it's implied she won't give up on him after all.
Once Sayuri learns about Rena's rejection and starts her own little arc, we barely see any Minami, just random appearances in class and their field trip now and again. Probably my least favorite part of the manga, and one I'll skip if/when I re-read it from the beginning. When it ends with Tsubasa admitting he still loves Minami and turning Sayuri down, Sayuri explains the two had a misunderstanding, and regrets that she got in Tsubasa and Minami's way. Honestly while she's my least favorite of the three girls, it was a nice moment for her to show some self-awareness, since I definitely felt like she was being a crappy friend to Minami during that whole arc.
Once Tsubasa and Minami finally start getting chapters together again, Minami gets excited that Tsubasa wants to walk home with her again. During their conversation she mentions she spent time with Sayuri and Asuka (the dark-skinned girl that barely appeared in the anime) recently, and how the three talked about love. While we don't see it, the obvious implication is that Sayuri admitted to everything, including the misunderstanding, Rena's rejection, and her own rejection (and possibly that she was rejected due to Tsubasa loving Minami)...which would explain why Minami is now open to spending time with Tsubasa and recover their relationship, which continues until the two get together and start dating.
In my personal opinion, I think this manga never should have been a harem in the first place, and I think the author realized that at some point with how much they would write Tsubasa and Minami together, and with how relatively early Rena and Sayuri's confessions and rejections happen (Rena rejected around 70 and Sayuri in 84, manga is currently on chapter 111). Still, I suppose the way it rolled out gave the other girls their own focus arcs before the unstoppable Minami ship rolled in, just wish Minami was given a little more perspective during that time since she's basically a co-main character.
Hope that helps!
Woah that’s a lot of detail thanks a lot for taking the time out to write it bro🥹✨. I also find this annoying by adding a harem route and well I also understand the author wanting to get the manga longer for more profit but they could’ve atleast have had more POV or parts of Minami during these rejection or wtv arcs.
But still this helped a lot !! Still seems enjoyable quite a bit I’ll try reading the manga from where do u recommend starting it ? Considering i have seen the anime. (don’t read mangas to much unless I’m really invested in romance story..so if your fine with it would mind telling me where I can read with English translation)
Since the manga mostly follows Tsubasa's POV, we don't see much of Minami after he rejects Rena. We see him trying to walk home with her after Rena's rejection, but Minami acts like she has something to do. We do get her POV a little bit while having dinner with her extended family (there are a lot of Fuyukis!), and we learn that she's trying to move on by avoiding him, but after talking with her little sister it's implied she won't give up on him after all.
Once Sayuri learns about Rena's rejection and starts her own little arc, we barely see any Minami, just random appearances in class and their field trip now and again. Probably my least favorite part of the manga, and one I'll skip if/when I re-read it from the beginning. When it ends with Tsubasa admitting he still loves Minami and turning Sayuri down, Sayuri explains the two had a misunderstanding, and regrets that she got in Tsubasa and Minami's way. Honestly while she's my least favorite of the three girls, it was a nice moment for her to show some self-awareness, since I definitely felt like she was being a crappy friend to Minami during that whole arc.
Once Tsubasa and Minami finally start getting chapters together again, Minami gets excited that Tsubasa wants to walk home with her again. During their conversation she mentions she spent time with Sayuri and Asuka (the dark-skinned girl that barely appeared in the anime) recently, and how the three talked about love. While we don't see it, the obvious implication is that Sayuri admitted to everything, including the misunderstanding, Rena's rejection, and her own rejection (and possibly that she was rejected due to Tsubasa loving Minami)...which would explain why Minami is now open to spending time with Tsubasa and recover their relationship, which continues until the two get together and start dating.
In my personal opinion, I think this manga never should have been a harem in the first place, and I think the author realized that at some point with how much they would write Tsubasa and Minami together, and with how relatively early Rena and Sayuri's confessions and rejections happen (Rena rejected around 70 and Sayuri in 84, manga is currently on chapter 111). Still, I suppose the way it rolled out gave the other girls their own focus arcs before the unstoppable Minami ship rolled in, just wish Minami was given a little more perspective during that time since she's basically a co-main character.
Hope that helps!
Woah that’s a lot of detail thanks a lot for taking the time out to write it bro🥹✨. I also find this annoying by adding a harem route and well I also understand the author wanting to get the manga longer for more profit but they could’ve atleast have had more POV or parts of Minami during these rejection or wtv arcs.
But still this helped a lot !! Still seems enjoyable quite a bit I’ll try reading the manga from where do u recommend starting it ? Considering i have seen the anime. (don’t read mangas to much unless I’m really invested in romance story..so if your fine with it would mind telling me where I can read with English translation)
It might be the author was chasing harem money at first, though at some point realized wholesome (and sometimes ecchi) rom-coms with a single couple (like Sono Bisque Doll) have become more popular lately. Just a wild guess though, I don't think the author's endgame has ever been anyone else.
In terms of where to start, I'd personally say the beginning (chapter 0 or chapter 1), there's some cute (and sometimes ecchi) moments the anime skipped over. If you don't want to re-read what you already watched though, the anime ends at chapter 32, and adds some minor content that wasn't in the manga, so you could start at 33. The drama I mentioned starts at 62 and ends at 88/89, if you have a tough time stomaching it you can jump ahead to peak Minami arcs. I mentioned it above but its one of my favorite rom-coms currently, it's become so sweet and wholesome I can't get enough!