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Jul 2, 2023 11:47 PM
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Source : https://gamebiz.jp/news/371214

this is the translate version of the news, perhaps you guys that know japanese can fix this:

Aniplex subsidiary Clover Works' financial results for the fiscal year ending March 2023 turned into a deficit with a final loss of 29 million yen. In the previous period (ending March 2022), the final profit was 46 million yen. It was revealed in the "Announcement of Financial Results" published in the "Official Gazette" dated July 3.

The company will be an animation studio established in October 2018 in the form of cutting out from A-1 Pictures.
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you guys keep saying that BTR outsells CSM lol, then why is this happening lmao

i hope this didn't stop CloverWorks to producing the anime
DrkSeid69Jul 2, 2023 11:53 PM
Jul 3, 2023 12:04 AM
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DrkSeid69 said:
you guys keep saying that BTR outsells CSM lol, then why is this happening lmao


mismanagement is my guess its usually bad managers to blame for poor control of their expenses but those stories are usually stays secret though unless there are whistleblowers
Jul 3, 2023 12:18 AM
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DrkSeid69 said:
you guys keep saying that BTR outsells CSM lol, then why is this happening lmao
It did outsell, but what exactly is your point?
First, studios usually don't get much money from merchandise, so even if BtR would be the best selling merch other there, it would have been still meaningless.
Second, you are comparing 2 different sized company with different standards.
Third, you mentioned only one series, while they work(ed) on more than one.
Jul 3, 2023 12:22 AM
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What Japanese animation studio is NOT facing some kind of financial problems.
Jul 3, 2023 12:53 AM
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i don't want this news 😭
they are making bunny girl Senpai movies

hope his doesn't affect much in those movies
Jul 3, 2023 1:12 AM
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bruh cloverworks is literally onto as many anime as mappa this year along with multiple movies like spu x family, BtR, bunny girl senpai 2 movies

it's not they made 3 anime in the whole year and are now facing trouble
they've definitely invested a lot more in projects

and like mentioned above, studios usually end up with very little of what an anime makes, especially because of the outsourcing staff they have to do for big titles like spy x family and BtR. they brought in many big names for both of these not to mention their future titles that are yet to come later or in 2024
Jul 3, 2023 1:21 AM
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unreliable source bruh 😂
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Jul 3, 2023 2:05 AM
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Swagernator said:
What Japanese animation studio is NOT facing some kind of financial problems.

ufotable (character limit)
Jul 3, 2023 2:16 AM
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demonaman293 said:
Swagernator said:
What Japanese animation studio is NOT facing some kind of financial problems.

ufotable (character limit)

You mean the studio that was fined 138 million yen for tax evasion ?
Jul 3, 2023 2:33 AM
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yup demon slayer studio they give blank checks also their marketing skills are top notch like they released 1st episode of s3 in theater so that they can juice us n grab the money
Jul 3, 2023 3:06 AM

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yup demon slayer studio they give blank checks also their marketing skills are top notch like they released 1st episode of s3 in theater so that they can juice us n grab the money

Are you twelve ? Or any other alignment.
Jul 3, 2023 3:30 AM
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Can you imagine the faces of those who cried about the poor sales of CSM on BD/DVD?)
Jul 3, 2023 6:25 AM

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look at WIT Studio financial problems too some years ago im almost sure it was mismanagement of finances again too even though they did not reveal the real cause of it

also is CloverWorks part of the production committee of Bocchi the Rock? because if they are not then they do not get royalty profits from the huge sales of it
Jul 3, 2023 6:28 AM
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All of their budget went in animating Bocchi's anxiety💀
Jul 3, 2023 6:55 AM

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again it does not matter how much an anime profits if the anime studio is not part of the production committee then the studio will not get royalty profits and the studio will only be paid a fix amount that is cheap

i did not watch Bocchi the Rock but i heard the animation quality is great though?

the budget meme strikes again here then if that is the case since it confirms again that the staff like animators are just passionate about an anime project (or even fans of the anime project or source material) rather than an anime project has given a huge budget by the production committee
Jul 3, 2023 7:00 AM
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CSM fans being CSM fans.
Jul 3, 2023 7:19 AM
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We would need more reliable surces to determine a whole companies income
Jul 3, 2023 11:39 AM
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Ya know, anime seems like a front-end investment that only recognizes income AFTER they’ve incurred a majority of their expenses. Or in other words, while the studio is in growth it will temporarily run in the red until their new projects start releasing. So it doesn’t shock me that a studio would run in the red after starting numerous large projects. What will help the most will probably be continued support from the fans for all their ongoing projects. Personally, I’ve really enjoyed many of their prior works. I would be intensely disappointed if the studio loses the confidence of fans.
Jul 3, 2023 12:26 PM
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Bocchi the Rock is the top earning anime of 2023 in blu rays.

How is the studio facing financial problems?

Spy x Family is also in top 10.

The source is unreliable.

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I hope they make a kunoichi tsubaki s2. Nice track reccord so far.
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Swagernator said:
What Japanese animation studio is NOT facing some kind of financial problems.

mappa because slaves doesnt have salaries
Jul 3, 2023 4:49 PM
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this means nothing alot of major companies even don't officially turn a profit
Jul 3, 2023 8:57 PM

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yeah, I don't get why this would ever be the case, bocchi alone was such a massive unexpected hit.

and spy x family did even better than it was expected.

as far as I know none of their shows was a huge miss either, so someone somewhere fucked up something for this to happen.
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DrkSeid69 said:
Source : https://gamebiz.jp/news/371214

this is the translate version of the news, perhaps you guys that know japanese can fix this:

Aniplex subsidiary Clover Works' financial results for the fiscal year ending March 2023 turned into a deficit with a final loss of 29 million yen. In the previous period (ending March 2022), the final profit was 46 million yen. It was revealed in the "Announcement of Financial Results" published in the "Official Gazette" dated July 3.

The company will be an animation studio established in October 2018 in the form of cutting out from A-1 Pictures.
・SPY×FAMILY
・Kunoichi Tsubaki no Munenai
・Shadow House 2nd Season
・Bocchi The Rock!
・UniteUp!
・Fate/Grand Order -Ultimate Singularity Crown Temporal Shrine Solomon-
・Theatrical Version Threatened by the No. 1 Man Who Wants to Be Embraced. ~Spain~



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you guys keep saying that BTR outsells CSM lol, then why is this happening lmao

i hope this didn't stop CloverWorks to producing the anime

It did outsell lmao. Cloverwork probably studios spent much money than Mappa (management issue maybe)
Jul 5, 2023 10:24 AM

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DexterDrubo said:
DrkSeid69 said:
Source : https://gamebiz.jp/news/371214

this is the translate version of the news, perhaps you guys that know japanese can fix this:

Aniplex subsidiary Clover Works' financial results for the fiscal year ending March 2023 turned into a deficit with a final loss of 29 million yen. In the previous period (ending March 2022), the final profit was 46 million yen. It was revealed in the "Announcement of Financial Results" published in the "Official Gazette" dated July 3.

The company will be an animation studio established in October 2018 in the form of cutting out from A-1 Pictures.
・SPY×FAMILY
・Kunoichi Tsubaki no Munenai
・Shadow House 2nd Season
・Bocchi The Rock!
・UniteUp!
・Fate/Grand Order -Ultimate Singularity Crown Temporal Shrine Solomon-
・Theatrical Version Threatened by the No. 1 Man Who Wants to Be Embraced. ~Spain~



translate version :


you guys keep saying that BTR outsells CSM lol, then why is this happening lmao

i hope this didn't stop CloverWorks to producing the anime

It did outsell lmao. Cloverwork probably studios spent much money than Mappa (management issue maybe)

That was probably the case, but i don't think CloverWorks spent way more money than MAPPA considering MAPPA literally produced 2 anime without financial help from the producers, especially with the case of CSM, that anime probably the most expensive anime that was aired last year.
Jul 6, 2023 2:57 AM
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How much is 29m yen in dollers etc
Jul 6, 2023 9:54 AM

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its mostly because of high amount of random bullshits they make besides their main focus series, you can check company page of CW and i assure you wont know the name of 60%~70% of them

also mismanagement should be a great factor

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