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Apr 11, 2023 2:33 AM
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First off, the foreshadowing of the Tsubame's Christmas party but showing barely any of it. I'm not sure this scene will be shown in season 4, but manga readers know that there was a lot more to that Christmas party than what was actually shown.

I've never really been a big fan of this arc but at least in the manga, it felt like It was much shorter. I just don't understand or maybe can't relate to the central conflict at all. What part of Miyuki was he desperate to hide? What parts of him have been revealed to the audience that we'll see in the future? Idk it seemed a bit too extravagant for me. Hey, but at least they made up.

Anyway, I'm just a bit bummed that there wasn't much of a focus on Ishigami whose arc is far more interesting IMO. I certainly hope all of it will be shown in season 4. Also, can we talk about how the anime butchered Papagane's monologue? I feel like that part came out rushed although it is a very important scene. It felt like they were trying to cram in a bunch of scenes at the end.


๐’ฎ๐‘œ๐“‚๐‘’๐“‰๐’พ๐“‚๐‘’๐“ˆ, ๐“Ž๐‘œ๐“Š ๐’ธ๐’ถ๐“ƒ'๐“‰ ๐“‚๐‘œ๐“‹๐‘’ ๐’ป๐‘œ๐“‡๐“Œ๐’ถ๐“‡๐’น ๐“Œ๐’พ๐“‰๐’ฝ๐‘œ๐“Š๐“‰ ๐’ธ๐“๐‘œ๐“ˆ๐’พ๐“ƒ๐‘” ๐“‰๐’ฝ๐‘’ ๐’น๐‘œ๐‘œ๐“‡ ๐’ท๐‘’๐’ฝ๐’พ๐“ƒ๐’น ๐“Ž๐‘œ๐“Š. - ๐‘…๐‘’๐’พ ๐’ฆ๐’พ๐“‡๐’พ๐“Ž๐’ถ๐“‚๐’ถ



Apr 11, 2023 3:25 AM
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That's interesting to hear you say you've never been a big fan of this arc. I absolutely love it, and to my knowledge the general consensus is that this is one of the best portions of the story. To each their own I guess.

I will say though, I agree on wanting to see the Ishigami stuff from the party animated. I think those scenes are very well written, and it'll be a shame if we never get a season 4 and that plot thread is just left hanging in the anime.

Luckily however, I think there's a strong chance of a season 4 with how popular the series is, unless A1 decides to just end the adaptation here since the story changes tone and pace in some of the future arcs.

Apr 11, 2023 4:03 AM
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I think the movie was absolute necessary moving forward. If this were adapted into a season 4 and we covered all material present here this would have taken probably the same four or even five episodes. Then that would have left us with a rather awkward season ending considering what I remember coming next. Now, if we do get another season, we can still cover the Tsubame christmas party (as it is ABSOLUTEY vital to future events) and I honestly think they could finish the manga if they do one more season (I could be wrong on that however). So in the end if I am correct this movie was perfect in helping us get to the end
Apr 11, 2023 6:19 AM
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But still, it was pretty good
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Apr 11, 2023 7:18 AM
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The reason they didn't show was because they mainly adapted up to chapter 151 and little clips of chapters after it. The Tsubame party arc is the arc directly after this arc.
Apr 11, 2023 7:29 AM
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M8 just say you have bad taste and go back to watching Demon Slayer
Apr 11, 2023 7:47 AM
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MemphisTango said:
M8 just say you have bad taste and go back to watching Demon Slayer
If you're going to make a post, at least take a stab at any of my opinions in the post itself. Tell me where I'm wrong instead of bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic in question.


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Apr 11, 2023 8:28 AM
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samsince04 said:
First off, the foreshadowing of the Tsubame's Christmas party but showing barely any of it. I'm not sure this scene will be shown in season 4, but manga readers know that there was a lot more to that Christmas party than what was actually shown.

I've never really been a big fan of this arc but at least in the manga, it felt like It was much shorter. I just don't understand or maybe can't relate to the central conflict at all. What part of Miyuki was he desperate to hide? What parts of him have been revealed to the audience that we'll see in the future? Idk it seemed a bit too extravagant for me. Hey, but at least they made up.

Anyway, I'm just a bit bummed that there wasn't much of a focus on Ishigami whose arc is far more interesting IMO. I certainly hope all of it will be shown in season 4. Also, can we talk about how the anime butchered Papagane's monologue? I feel like that part came out rushed although it is a very important scene. It felt like they were trying to cram in a bunch of scenes at the end.

Evidently they will cover this if we get a season 4, the way things end can be a little misleading, but we most definitely will see those events, otherwise season 4 would be missing vital pieces of info as some have already mentioned. You used the word foreshadowing so I feel that you as well understand that they wouldn’t leave us like that. If anything, it just felt like a bit too big of a foreshadow to me (almost spoiler-like). I may have felt different if i wasn’t a manga reader though, so it’s tough for me to say.
Apr 11, 2023 10:37 AM
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samsince04 said:
First off, the foreshadowing of the Tsubame's Christmas party but showing barely any of it. I'm not sure this scene will be shown in season 4, but manga readers know that there was a lot more to that Christmas party than what was actually shown.

I've never really been a big fan of this arc but at least in the manga, it felt like It was much shorter. I just don't understand or maybe can't relate to the central conflict at all. What part of Miyuki was he desperate to hide? What parts of him have been revealed to the audience that we'll see in the future? Idk it seemed a bit too extravagant for me. Hey, but at least they made up.

Anyway, I'm just a bit bummed that there wasn't much of a focus on Ishigami whose arc is far more interesting IMO. I certainly hope all of it will be shown in season 4. Also, can we talk about how the anime butchered Papagane's monologue? I feel like that part came out rushed although it is a very important scene. It felt like they were trying to cram in a bunch of scenes at the end.

Which part is Shirogane trying to hide? The part of him that sucks at everything. And we the viewers should know this from season 1, he sucks at vollyball, so chika has to teach him, he sucks at dancing, so chika has to teach him, he sucks at singing, so chika has to teach him, and so on.
And everytime there is one thing in common, he works his ass off to learn all these skills.
However all this time it was mostly implied he was naturally good in his studies and bad at everything else, turns out even that he manages by studying day and night sacrificing his sleep.
There is a deleted chapter in the manga, its during season 1, during the event where the French students came to their academy. Kaguya notices he is using earphones and assumes he is listening to music to relax, only to find out that he is actually listening to French lessons in his free time.

Kaguya on the other hand is naturally good at everything, it's not much hardwork, simply natural talent (take her archery for example). To Shirogane, in order to be seen by kaguya he has to become equal to her, but he doesn't have the natural talent like her, so he has work hard, and moment he stops working hard, his "mask" will fall. He cannot show Kaguya that is actually incompetent, he will fake it till he makes it. The last time he failed at something miserably his mother left him and took his sister with her(he blames himself for her mother leaving, even if it's not true).
That is what Shirogane is trying to hide, he is trying to achieve perfection ALL the time, and as Kaguya points it, he doesn't need to be perfect at everything and just like how Kaguya has a bad personality which Shirogane doesn't mind, Kaguya also doesn't mind that Shirogane is not good at a lot of things.
Apr 11, 2023 2:31 PM

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Heisenberg_69 said:
samsince04 said:
First off, the foreshadowing of the Tsubame's Christmas party but showing barely any of it. I'm not sure this scene will be shown in season 4, but manga readers know that there was a lot more to that Christmas party than what was actually shown.

I've never really been a big fan of this arc but at least in the manga, it felt like It was much shorter. I just don't understand or maybe can't relate to the central conflict at all. What part of Miyuki was he desperate to hide? What parts of him have been revealed to the audience that we'll see in the future? Idk it seemed a bit too extravagant for me. Hey, but at least they made up.

Anyway, I'm just a bit bummed that there wasn't much of a focus on Ishigami whose arc is far more interesting IMO. I certainly hope all of it will be shown in season 4. Also, can we talk about how the anime butchered Papagane's monologue? I feel like that part came out rushed although it is a very important scene. It felt like they were trying to cram in a bunch of scenes at the end.

Which part is Shirogane trying to hide? The part of him that sucks at everything. And we the viewers should know this from season 1, he sucks at vollyball, so chika has to teach him, he sucks at dancing, so chika has to teach him, he sucks at singing, so chika has to teach him, and so on.
And everytime there is one thing in common, he works his ass off to learn all these skills.
However all this time it was mostly implied he was naturally good in his studies and bad at everything else, turns out even that he manages by studying day and night sacrificing his sleep.
There is a deleted chapter in the manga, its during season 1, during the event where the French students came to their academy. Kaguya notices he is using earphones and assumes he is listening to music to relax, only to find out that he is actually listening to French lessons in his free time.

Kaguya on the other hand is naturally good at everything, it's not much hardwork, simply natural talent (take her archery for example). To Shirogane, in order to be seen by kaguya he has to become equal to her, but he doesn't have the natural talent like her, so he has work hard, and moment he stops working hard, his "mask" will fall. He cannot show Kaguya that is actually incompetent, he will fake it till he makes it. The last time he failed at something miserably his mother left him and took his sister with her(he blames himself for her mother leaving, even if it's not true).
That is what Shirogane is trying to hide, he is trying to achieve perfection ALL the time, and as Kaguya points it, he doesn't need to be perfect at everything and just like how Kaguya has a bad personality which Shirogane doesn't mind, Kaguya also doesn't mind that Shirogane is not good at a lot of things.
I genuinely forgot about all that Shirogane stuff. Nice analysis. It makes a bit more sense to me now. But I don't see how he becomes less of a perfectionist after this arc and even then, those things that he was bad at were still used for comedic purposes even after this current arc. I guess it was all about him being more open with Kaguya about his insecurities. I've never thought that he was so fazed by them to the point where he thinks he has to look and act perfect for Kaguya to accept him. That's why I was so confused as to why he was saying all those stuff.


๐’ฎ๐‘œ๐“‚๐‘’๐“‰๐’พ๐“‚๐‘’๐“ˆ, ๐“Ž๐‘œ๐“Š ๐’ธ๐’ถ๐“ƒ'๐“‰ ๐“‚๐‘œ๐“‹๐‘’ ๐’ป๐‘œ๐“‡๐“Œ๐’ถ๐“‡๐’น ๐“Œ๐’พ๐“‰๐’ฝ๐‘œ๐“Š๐“‰ ๐’ธ๐“๐‘œ๐“ˆ๐’พ๐“ƒ๐‘” ๐“‰๐’ฝ๐‘’ ๐’น๐‘œ๐‘œ๐“‡ ๐’ท๐‘’๐’ฝ๐’พ๐“ƒ๐’น ๐“Ž๐‘œ๐“Š. - ๐‘…๐‘’๐’พ ๐’ฆ๐’พ๐“‡๐’พ๐“Ž๐’ถ๐“‚๐’ถ



Apr 11, 2023 2:39 PM
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samsince04 said:
Heisenberg_69 said:

Which part is Shirogane trying to hide? The part of him that sucks at everything. And we the viewers should know this from season 1, he sucks at vollyball, so chika has to teach him, he sucks at dancing, so chika has to teach him, he sucks at singing, so chika has to teach him, and so on.
And everytime there is one thing in common, he works his ass off to learn all these skills.
However all this time it was mostly implied he was naturally good in his studies and bad at everything else, turns out even that he manages by studying day and night sacrificing his sleep.
There is a deleted chapter in the manga, its during season 1, during the event where the French students came to their academy. Kaguya notices he is using earphones and assumes he is listening to music to relax, only to find out that he is actually listening to French lessons in his free time.

Kaguya on the other hand is naturally good at everything, it's not much hardwork, simply natural talent (take her archery for example). To Shirogane, in order to be seen by kaguya he has to become equal to her, but he doesn't have the natural talent like her, so he has work hard, and moment he stops working hard, his "mask" will fall. He cannot show Kaguya that is actually incompetent, he will fake it till he makes it. The last time he failed at something miserably his mother left him and took his sister with her(he blames himself for her mother leaving, even if it's not true).
That is what Shirogane is trying to hide, he is trying to achieve perfection ALL the time, and as Kaguya points it, he doesn't need to be perfect at everything and just like how Kaguya has a bad personality which Shirogane doesn't mind, Kaguya also doesn't mind that Shirogane is not good at a lot of things.
I genuinely forgot about all that Shirogane stuff. Nice analysis. It makes a bit more sense to me now. But I don't see how he becomes less of a perfectionist after this arc and even then, those things that he was bad at were still used for comedic purposes even after this current arc. I guess it was all about him being more open with Kaguya about his insecurities. I've never thought that he was so fazed by them to the point where he thinks he has to look and act perfect for Kaguya to accept him. That's why I was so confused as to why he was saying all those stuff.

*spoilers for manga*


Shirogane actually does stop being a total perfectionist after this, there is a chapter later on where Kaguya notices that his exam rankings dropped suddenly and now kaguya was no 1, at first she was worried, as Kashiwagi tells her that maybe he was only interested in the chase and is now not putting enough effort after getting the girl, but finally realises that he simply took her advice and is giving himself a bit more free time, while still working hard enough without over working himself.
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True, but it was essentially 4 episodes after each other, so yeah... was more like 3rd of a season instead of a movie.

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