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Dec 24, 2022 4:47 AM
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Shueisha released a new article: Did SUPER HERO change the history of Japanese Animation? How this movie’s more expensive to produce than if it were completely hand-drawn. The characters & backgrounds (assets) can be used in Future Movies & TV Series. https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1606498135928623105

so ye they did 3DCG for more future 3DCG Dragon Ball shows because characters and backgrounds can be reuse or recycle with 3DCG
Dec 24, 2022 4:57 AM
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Too bad cgi is ugly and should be avoided in the anime industry. 2d animation is beautiful and forever and ever be superior to cgi.
Dec 24, 2022 4:59 AM
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Too bad cgi is ugly and should be avoided in the anime industry. 2d animation is beautiful and forever and ever be superior to cgi.
with how there is anime overproduction this days due to high consumer demand for anime and there is animator shortage crisis due to low pay and long hours of work the future is more 3DCG
Dec 24, 2022 5:01 AM
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deg said:
elderonn said:
Too bad cgi is ugly and should be avoided in the anime industry. 2d animation is beautiful and forever and ever be superior to cgi.
with how there is anime overproduction this days due to high consumer demand for anime and there is animator shortage crisis due to low pay and long hours of work the future is more 3DCG

And that is sad. CGI is disgusting to look at (at least for me). Anyhow the anime industry needs to take proper care of its animators just like the kyoani studio.
Dec 24, 2022 5:30 AM
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deg said:
Shueisha released a new article: Did SUPER HERO change the history of Japanese Animation? How this movie’s more expensive to produce than if it were completely hand-drawn. The characters & backgrounds (assets) can be used in Future Movies & TV Series. https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1606498135928623105

so ye they did 3DCG for more future 3DCG Dragon Ball shows because characters and backgrounds can be reuse or recycle with 3DCG

I have read it

honestly, I have no problems with it,as CGI(like Orange and even this movie) can look beautiful
it will be interesting to see how the situation evolves
A blend of 2D and 3D is probably the way to go right now,but who knows what the future holds
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Dec 24, 2022 5:37 AM
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AwesomeAlfie27 said:
deg said:
Shueisha released a new article: Did SUPER HERO change the history of Japanese Animation? How this movie’s more expensive to produce than if it were completely hand-drawn. The characters & backgrounds (assets) can be used in Future Movies & TV Series. https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1606498135928623105

so ye they did 3DCG for more future 3DCG Dragon Ball shows because characters and backgrounds can be reuse or recycle with 3DCG

I have read it

honestly, I have no problems with it,as CGI(like Orange and even this movie) can look beautiful
it will be interesting to see how the situation evolves
A blend of 2D and 3D is probably the way to go right now,but who knows what the future holds

2d mixed with 3d looks good and I would really prefer that over just 3d like this, but cgi in the middle of a whole 2d anime has to be the worst of them all
Dec 24, 2022 6:44 AM
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The characters & backgrounds (assets) can be used in Future Movies & TV Series.

So it's cheaper in the long run.
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Dec 24, 2022 7:07 AM
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elderonn said:
Too bad cgi is ugly and should be avoided in the anime industry. 2d animation is beautiful and forever and ever be superior to cgi.

then don’t watch 3d anime

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Dec 24, 2022 7:17 AM
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Idc if it’s 2D or 3D, let’s just hope we don’t get another flop like this movie in the future.
Dec 24, 2022 7:21 AM

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Idc if it’s 2D or 3D, let’s just hope we don’t get another flop like this movie in the future.
what flop? it reach rank 32 out of top 50 on this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Japanese_films
Dec 24, 2022 7:22 AM
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deg said:
RequiemLo64 said:
Idc if it’s 2D or 3D, let’s just hope we don’t get another flop like this movie in the future.
what flop? it reach rank 32 out of top 50 on this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Japanese_films

32 out of 50? Try again bud 😂 that’s even more of a flop than I thought it was.
Dec 24, 2022 7:28 AM

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what flop? it reach rank 32 out of top 50 on this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Japanese_films

32 out of 50? Try again bud 😂 that’s even more of a flop than I thought it was.
a lot of anime movies each year do not even made it to that top 50 list bud
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32 out of 50? Try again bud 😂 that’s even more of a flop than I thought it was.
a lot of anime movies each year do not even made it to that top 50 list bud

Not all of those said movies are as bad as super hero now are they?
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a lot of anime movies each year do not even made it to that top 50 list bud

Not all of those said movies are as bad as super hero now are they?
what do you even mean by that? if its part of the top 50 then its a big hit
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deg said:
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Not all of those said movies are as bad as super hero now are they?
what do you even mean by that? if its part of the top 50 then its a big hit

Top 50 is cool but it’s not Magen train, Jjk or film red cool now is it? Is what I mean
Dec 24, 2022 7:33 AM

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what do you even mean by that? if its part of the top 50 then its a big hit

Top 50 is cool but it’s not Magen train, Jjk or film red cool now is it? Is what I mean
top 50 of all thousands of anime movies and more is a flop now?
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with how there is anime overproduction this days due to high consumer demand for anime and there is animator shortage crisis due to low pay and long hours of work the future is more 3DCG

And that is sad. CGI is disgusting to look at (at least for me). Anyhow the anime industry needs to take proper care of its animators just like the kyoani studio.

Do you think American CG animation is that ugly too? Like Disney/Pixar films are gorgeous in my opinion
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Domitian said:
elderonn said:

And that is sad. CGI is disgusting to look at (at least for me). Anyhow the anime industry needs to take proper care of its animators just like the kyoani studio.

Do you think American CG animation is that ugly too? Like Disney/Pixar films are gorgeous in my opinion

Compared to 2d animation it is.
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deg said:
Shueisha released a new article: Did SUPER HERO change the history of Japanese Animation? How this movie’s more expensive to produce than if it were completely hand-drawn. The characters & backgrounds (assets) can be used in Future Movies & TV Series. https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1606498135928623105

so ye they did 3DCG for more future 3DCG Dragon Ball shows because characters and backgrounds can be reuse or recycle with 3DCG

I hope not, Broly movie was 10x better in every respect and the only good thing DB has produced in a long long time. DB Super hero was as mid as dragon ball super. Absolutely 0 sakuga in an action anime movie (oof) not to mention it’s supposed to be gohan’s time to shine and he’s in the movie for all of 10 min. And he’s in his new form for all of 10 frames so there’s really no payoff for sitting through the whole movie. Not to mention Cell Max exists lmao ☠️. If broly wasn’t so incredible I’d be more ok with this movie being mid but it ended up a huge disappointment
Dec 24, 2022 12:47 PM

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adeeb91 said:
elderonn said:
Too bad cgi is ugly and should be avoided in the anime industry. 2d animation is beautiful and forever and ever be superior to cgi.

then don’t watch 3d anime
No worries, I wasn't planning on watching them. Why would I consume filth?
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deg said:
Shueisha released a new article: Did SUPER HERO change the history of Japanese Animation? How this movie’s more expensive to produce than if it were completely hand-drawn. The characters & backgrounds (assets) can be used in Future Movies & TV Series. https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1606498135928623105

so ye they did 3DCG for more future 3DCG Dragon Ball shows because characters and backgrounds can be reuse or recycle with 3DCG

I hope not, Broly movie was 10x better in every respect and the only good thing DB has produced in a long long time. DB Super hero was as mid as dragon ball super. Absolutely 0 sakuga in an action anime movie (oof) not to mention it’s supposed to be gohan’s time to shine and he’s in the movie for all of 10 min. And he’s in his new form for all of 10 frames so there’s really no payoff for sitting through the whole movie. Not to mention Cell Max exists lmao ☠️. If broly wasn’t so incredible I’d be more ok with this movie being mid but it ended up a huge disappointment

You say broly movie was 10x better in any retrospect but your comment fails to make your statement reliable.

The only thing Dbs Broly did better was animation.

Was Dbs Broly better plot wise? Seeing how the plot happened bc Frieza wanted to be taller, means no it wasn’t. Frieza who always wanted to be immortal, now does a 180° and wants to be be taller... so out of character.

Broly so amazing but Cell Max is not? They’re literally the same shit.

Two retarded fellows. They can’t even think for themselves and are just being used. What’s so amazing about Broly? Or is it strength you’re talking about?

It’s supposed to be Gohan’s AND Piccolo’s time to shine and that’s what the movie does.
Half of the movie is more focused on Piccolo and the other half is more focused on Gohan.

Gohans new form only getting “10 frames” in the movie show character development. Previously when Gohan was the strongest (vs Cell and Vs Buu) he got arrogant and didn’t try to finish them off right away as he should’ve. Now he did.

Super hero also introduced Gammas who’re 100x more interesting than their counterparts in Broly (Cheelai and Lemo). One of them solely existing for fan service.

Super hero also introduced moral dilemmas which we haven’t really seen in all of dragon ball. It being the “hero”

Super hero also brought sacrifice... actual sacrifice and not the bs, “death doesn’t matter because we can use the dragon balls”

So what exactly did Dbs broly do better?

The new characters weren’t better...
The antagonist was just a mindless child like the one in super hero (so definitely not better)
The plot wasn’t better

So what does that leave us with? Only the animation. So yea, if you’re under 6 I can understand why you say “Dbs broly is 10x better in any retrospective”


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Yeah, in the long run as they can reuse previous assets this reduces costs of product and development time
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Top 50 is cool but it’s not Magen train, Jjk or film red cool now is it? Is what I mean
top 50 of all thousands of anime movies and more is a flop now?

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top 50 of all thousands of anime movies and more is a flop now?

Yes (15 character limit)


you are delusional then
Dec 30, 2022 5:19 AM
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deg said:
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Yes (15 character limit)


you are delusional then

Right back at you pal, if you thought for a second this movie wasn’t flop you’re delusional
Dec 30, 2022 5:21 AM

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you are delusional then

Right back at you pal, if you thought for a second this movie wasn’t flop you’re delusional


ye because you do not know what flop means so delusional it reach top 50 out of thousands of movies and you say that is flop lol
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Right back at you pal, if you thought for a second this movie wasn’t flop you’re delusional


ye because you do not know what flop means so delusional it reach top 50 out of thousands of movies and you say that is flop lol

It’s dragon ball ya Maroon, a flop is a flop, just cause the IP saved it in numbers doesn’t mean objectively it wasn’t a flop
Dec 30, 2022 5:26 AM

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ye because you do not know what flop means so delusional it reach top 50 out of thousands of movies and you say that is flop lol

It’s dragon ball ya Maroon, a flop is a flop, just cause the IP saved it in numbers doesn’t mean objectively it wasn’t a flop


it reach 90+ million dollars profit while Dragon Ball Broly reach 120+ million profit and you call this a flop or total failure is indeed delusional
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It’s dragon ball ya Maroon, a flop is a flop, just cause the IP saved it in numbers doesn’t mean objectively it wasn’t a flop


it reach 90+ million dollars profit while Dragon Ball Broly reach 120+ million profit and you call this a flop or total failure is indeed delusional

Yeah, do you not read what you’re typing? Also am I not allowed to?
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it reach 90+ million dollars profit while Dragon Ball Broly reach 120+ million profit and you call this a flop or total failure is indeed delusional

Yeah, do you not read what you’re typing? Also am I not allowed to?


how is 90 million plus profit total failure?
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deg said:
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Yeah, do you not read what you’re typing? Also am I not allowed to?


how is 90 million plus profit total failure?

Because people spent money for a flop, then said yeah this movie ain’t the best, leaving the rest of us to watch on 9anime or something like that, idk you tell me.
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how is 90 million plus profit total failure?

Because people spent money for a flop, then said yeah this movie ain’t the best, leaving the rest of us to watch on 9anime or something like that, idk you tell me.


again you got a delusional meaning of what flop even is
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Because people spent money for a flop, then said yeah this movie ain’t the best, leaving the rest of us to watch on 9anime or something like that, idk you tell me.


again you got a delusional meaning of what flop even is

Yeah that’s what I thought, back off
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again you got a delusional meaning of what flop even is

Yeah that’s what I thought, back off


learn what the meaning of flop is its easy to google for the dictionary
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Yeah that’s what I thought, back off


learn what the meaning of flop is its easy to google for the dictionary

Lol, talk about typical MaL user 🍿
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learn what the meaning of flop is its easy to google for the dictionary

Lol, talk about typical MaL user 🍿


funny because youre the typical toxic MAL user i seen over the years here especially if they cannot accept they are wrong about simple definition of words
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Lol, talk about typical MaL user 🍿


funny because youre the typical toxic MAL user i seen over the years here especially if they cannot accept they are wrong about simple definition of words

Accept that they were wrong? Toxic? You need a mirror bud?
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funny because youre the typical toxic MAL user i seen over the years here especially if they cannot accept they are wrong about simple definition of words

Accept that they were wrong? Toxic? You need a mirror bud?


where i was toxic? and you keep replying without no sense now
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Accept that they were wrong? Toxic? You need a mirror bud?


where i was toxic? and you keep replying without no sense now

I said sum you said sum you got pressed and said I needed a dictionary tell me that’s not toxic plus when you’re in the wrong it’s best to not keep replying with nonsense to feel some sort of superiority :)
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where i was toxic? and you keep replying without no sense now

I said sum you said sum you got pressed and said I needed a dictionary tell me that’s not toxic plus when you’re in the wrong it’s best to not keep replying with nonsense to feel some sort of superiority :)


you have an extreme warp definition of what flop is obviously you need to take advice to google its dictionary definition

ye thats what you do you keep replying with nonsense to have the last word and feel superior lol what a projection from you
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deg said:
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I said sum you said sum you got pressed and said I needed a dictionary tell me that’s not toxic plus when you’re in the wrong it’s best to not keep replying with nonsense to feel some sort of superiority :)


you have an extreme warp definition of what flop is obviously you need to take advice to google its dictionary definition

ye thats what you do you keep replying with nonsense to have the last word and feel superior lol what a projection from you

See, turning my word against me doesn’t work, clearly, and I think I know what flop means, I really don’t have the patience to listen to your denial but I guess you’re gonna keep replying right?
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you have an extreme warp definition of what flop is obviously you need to take advice to google its dictionary definition

ye thats what you do you keep replying with nonsense to have the last word and feel superior lol what a projection from you

See, turning my word against me doesn’t work, clearly, and I think I know what flop means, I really don’t have the patience to listen to your denial but I guess you’re gonna keep replying right?


youre the one who keeps on replying dude remember youre the one that quoted me today first

i see you think you know what flop means but the dictionary disagrees with your definition clearly
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deg said:
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See, turning my word against me doesn’t work, clearly, and I think I know what flop means, I really don’t have the patience to listen to your denial but I guess you’re gonna keep replying right?


youre the one who keeps on replying dude remember youre the one that quoted me today first

i see you think you know what flop means but the dictionary disagrees with your definition clearly

I don’t spend all my time on MaL.

I saw you replied to me so I didn’t want to be rude and ignore your wasted effort.

I know what flop means my guy and if i didn’t, google does, so why would i use it given those two factors, make it make sense, super hero was a flop.

It’s not like I’m the only one who thinks that.

Even if I was that matters not my guy.
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youre the one who keeps on replying dude remember youre the one that quoted me today first

i see you think you know what flop means but the dictionary disagrees with your definition clearly

I don’t spend all my time on MaL.

I saw you replied to me so I didn’t want to be rude and ignore your wasted effort.

I know what flop means my guy and if i didn’t, google does, so why would i use it given those two factors, make it make sense, super hero was a flop.

It’s not like I’m the only one who thinks that.

Even if I was that matters not my guy.


good at least you know that what you mean by flop does not matter
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I never said that but ok, typical MaL user.

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