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Sep 16, 2022 8:39 AM
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Is there any point in watching this show if I'm pretty biased towards the franchise, but wouldn't mind watching it for scientific reasons to get an idea of ​​the show? How different is this from a Western series?
Sep 16, 2022 8:48 AM
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Def not, other than the rushed first 3 episodes, the show is nothing like the actual series. 3/12th of the episodes are canon and the rest are some dream arc thats boring and not relevant towards the story. The comedy and characters are watered down and the fights just are skipped out and not as good as the original
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Sep 16, 2022 8:53 AM
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RobertBobert said:
Is there any point in watching this show if I'm pretty biased towards the franchise, but wouldn't mind watching it for scientific reasons to get an idea of ​​the show? How different is this from a Western series?

It's a pretty unique thing. I've only seen the first episode from the og (didn't drop it, just had other things come up), so I didn't have much to compare it to. It's not hard to follow though, and it does a pretty decent job speedrunning what I believe is the first volume in the first 3 episodes without leaving you behind.
The pacing is kinda wonky, due to the nature of the show, and I really feel like Shaft didn't bring their A-game to this one. But it's still a really fun watch that kinda gives you a vague idea of what the series is, while also telling a completely original, more eastern style side story set at the beginning of the series.

Nearly everyone who has seen the original series just hates it because they thought it was going to be an anime remake of the original; Not what basically amounts to a Japanese fanfiction for a western property, which is what it really is at its core. -And what Shaft have BEEN saying from the very beginning that it is.
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Sep 16, 2022 9:12 AM
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Putting it plainly, I went in with zero expectations and, while I'm not disappointed, it definitely doesn't compare to the Western series.
Overall, the anime feels a little bland and while its nice seeing more of these characters in a different situation, the Western show has gotten way past these points of the character development that it feels kind of pointless.

While the Western show's animation is quite different, especially janky early on, the story and characters more than make up for it, and the fight scenes are consistently very well done.

Overall, the Western anime has a way better story and character development, while the Anime is slightly better animation quality.
That's my opinion though, I'm sure others may feel differently.
Sep 16, 2022 9:14 AM
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Zweifooter said:
Nearly everyone who has seen the original series just hates it because they thought it was going to be an anime remake of the original; Not what basically amounts to a Japanese fanfiction for a western property, which is what it really is at its core. -And what Shaft have BEEN saying from the very beginning that it is.

As a fan of the OG RWBY myself, I don't hate this anime because it's not a "remake", I actually don't care if it's a remake or not, that's not the point, I do hate it though because it's a downgrade to EVERYTHING the OG provided and having a rushed 3 first episode didn't help either, if they are going to rush things, I rather have them create the first 3 episodes from scratch, without nothing to do with the OG, I mean, this anime in itself has nothing to do with the OG since everything happened in a boring dream arc anyway, the only thing resembling the OG is the first 3 episodes which is rushed as hell and this is pretty sloppy IMHO. If you are going to rush things, just don't do it and create something else, pretty simple.

Apart from that, this anime was extremely boring and has really shitty action scenes too, the only episode I enjoyed from this anime is episode 11, the rest of the episodes are simply garbage IMHO, this anime deserved better than this.

I know the ratings in MAL are mostly garbage but at least there is something fairly accurate around here, an anime with a rating below 7 has serious issues and this anime keeps getting lower every week so yeah, something went extremely wrong with this anime.

To the OP, if you haven't watched this anime then don't bother, the only good episode is episode 11 and that episode alone isn't worth all the shit I went through just to get there.
Sep 16, 2022 9:17 AM
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Subi97 said:
Putting it plainly, I went in with zero expectations and, while I'm not disappointed, it definitely doesn't compare to the Western series.
Overall, the anime feels a little bland and while its nice seeing more of these characters in a different situation, the Western show has gotten way past these points of the character development that it feels kind of pointless.

While the Western show's animation is quite different, especially janky early on, the story and characters more than make up for it, and the fight scenes are consistently very well done.

Overall, the Western anime has a way better story and character development, while the Anime is slightly better animation quality.
That's my opinion though, I'm sure others may feel differently.

You nailed it as far as I can tell.
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Sep 16, 2022 9:20 AM
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It’s fun, so it depends on how you view anime in general. The first 3 eps are rushed since it’s expounding on a certain arc. While the show isn’t great, the animation and fights make it fun.
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Sep 16, 2022 9:31 AM
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xZabuzax said:
Zweifooter said:
Nearly everyone who has seen the original series just hates it because they thought it was going to be an anime remake of the original; Not what basically amounts to a Japanese fanfiction for a western property, which is what it really is at its core. -And what Shaft have BEEN saying from the very beginning that it is.

As a fan of the OG RWBY myself, I don't hate this anime because it's not a "remake", I actually don't care if it's a remake or not, that's not the point, I do hate it though because it's a downgrade to EVERYTHING the OG provided and having a rushed 3 first episode didn't help either, if they are going to rush things, I rather have them create the first 3 episodes from scratch, without nothing to do with the OG, I mean, this anime in itself has nothing to do with the OG since everything happened in a boring dream arc anyway, the only thing resembling the OG is the first 3 episodes which is rushed as hell and this is pretty sloppy IMHO. If you are going to rush things, just don't do it and create something else, pretty simple.

Apart from that, this anime was extremely boring and has really shitty action scenes too, the only episode I enjoyed from this anime is episode 11, the rest of the episodes are simply garbage IMHO, this anime deserved better than this.

I know the ratings in MAL are mostly garbage but at least there is something fairly accurate around here, an anime with a rating below 7 has serious issues and this anime keeps getting lower every week so yeah, something went extremely wrong with this anime.

To the OP, if you haven't watched this anime then don't bother, the only good episode is episode 11 and that episode alone isn't worth all the shit I went through just to get there.

My man, you just said said that you didn't hate it because it wasn't a remake, and then have a ton of examples of why you don't like it, that all said it was because new one isn't the original. And I'm sorry, but the fight choreography may have been way better in the original, but the rest of the visuals in the anime surpass the machinima look of the original. You also couldn't state WHY you found the dream arc boring any further than that it wasn't canon and therefore not in the original.

Also the first 3 episodes weren't "rushed". Thats not what rushed means. They quickly established the main plot, while leaving out everything that's not relavant to the story that the director and/or writer wanted to tell, in the first three episodes. That doesn't mean that they quickly farted out the first 3 episodes while cutting every corner they could to make a deadline. They had a schedule for 13 episodes to work with, and wanted to establish some things to keep it friendly to people like me who haven't really watched the OG, while still leaving themselves enough room to tell the main story. If you go back and reread my post, you'll see that I've already said that and complained about the pacing.

None of your arguments debunk mine and you clearly just don't want anyone to watch it because you think it's representative of the original. Which it isn't, btw. It's not that bad, and I do plan on going back and ACTUALLY watching the OG after finishing this.


No hard feelings btw, I'm trying not come off like a smug asshole, but rather contribute to the discussion. If you come up with some well thought out points to refute my arguments, I'll gladly engage them. My point that it's a fun, fanfiction, side story that's probably better experienced through binging rather than weekly watching.
Sep 16, 2022 9:45 AM
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Zweifooter said:
xZabuzax said:

As a fan of the OG RWBY myself, I don't hate this anime because it's not a "remake", I actually don't care if it's a remake or not, that's not the point, I do hate it though because it's a downgrade to EVERYTHING the OG provided and having a rushed 3 first episode didn't help either, if they are going to rush things, I rather have them create the first 3 episodes from scratch, without nothing to do with the OG, I mean, this anime in itself has nothing to do with the OG since everything happened in a boring dream arc anyway, the only thing resembling the OG is the first 3 episodes which is rushed as hell and this is pretty sloppy IMHO. If you are going to rush things, just don't do it and create something else, pretty simple.

Apart from that, this anime was extremely boring and has really shitty action scenes too, the only episode I enjoyed from this anime is episode 11, the rest of the episodes are simply garbage IMHO, this anime deserved better than this.

I know the ratings in MAL are mostly garbage but at least there is something fairly accurate around here, an anime with a rating below 7 has serious issues and this anime keeps getting lower every week so yeah, something went extremely wrong with this anime.

To the OP, if you haven't watched this anime then don't bother, the only good episode is episode 11 and that episode alone isn't worth all the shit I went through just to get there.

My man, you just said said that you didn't hate it because it wasn't a remake, and then have a ton of examples of why you don't like it, that all said it was because new one isn't the original. And I'm sorry, but the fight choreography may have been way better in the original, but the rest of the visuals in the anime surpass the machinima look of the original. You also couldn't state WHY you found the dream arc boring any further than that it wasn't canon and therefore not in the original.

Also the first 3 episodes weren't "rushed". Thats not what rushed means. They quickly established the main plot, while leaving out everything that's not relavant to the story that the director and/or writer wanted to tell, in the first three episodes. That doesn't mean that they quickly farted out the first 3 episodes while cutting every corner they could to make a deadline. They had a schedule for 13 episodes to work with, and wanted to establish some things to keep it friendly to people like me who haven't really watched the OG, while still leaving themselves enough room to tell the main story. If you go back and reread my post, you'll see that I've already said that and complained about the pacing.

None of your arguments debunk mine and you clearly just don't want anyone to watch it because you think it's representative of the original. Which it isn't, btw. It's not that bad, and I do plan on going back and ACTUALLY watching the OG after finishing this.


No hard feelings btw, I'm trying not come off like a smug asshole, but rather contribute to the discussion. If you come up with some well thought out points to refute my arguments, I'll gladly engage them. My point that it's a fun, fanfiction, side story that's probably better experienced through binging rather than weekly watching.

No offense man but I don't need to explain why I think the dream is boring, I just didn't like that boring arc but if you want more reasons, sure, here are the reasons, that arc dragged for way too long, the animation in the fight scenes are garbage (like I already stated plenty of times around here), the characters didn't have enough time to know each other and suddenly, they are all talking like they knew each other for years with that power of friendship BS and the episodes are simply badly directed with nothing interesting going on between them other than episode 11 which is nice.

And yeah, the first 3 episodes are definitely rushed IMHO, you simply have a different definition of what "rushed" means but to me, it was definitely rushed and I don't need to explain more than that. I don't need to debunk your arguments because it doesn't even matter, you liked this garbage, good for you, I didn't like this garbage and I'm stating my opinion about it, nothing more, nothing else.

And yeah, no hard feelings bruh.
Sep 17, 2022 2:44 AM
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The original rwby show has a load of problems, and really needed a second draft. I really like the changes they made in retelling season 1 of rwby in the anime. They have really been dragging out the season afterwards sadly, I wish it had continued retelling the original for one or two more episodes.
The anime cut out a lot of stupid episodes from the original, and to be honest looks so much better then the original.
I think the characterisation in the anime is better, and makes me no long hate jaune
Sep 17, 2022 8:46 AM

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Honestly, RWBY isn't worth it, both the main series itself, and Ice Queendom. Sure, IQ makes some obviously needed touch,ups to some aspects from Volume 1 but holy hell is the pacing dysfunctional and it somehow manages to make even lwss sense and cut and edit in ways that make many of the conflicts and stories even more simplistic and less effective. I haven't touched the fully new material yet but I don't expect it to get much better. Mainline RWBY was bad from the start but the first few volmes had some life and the occasional compelling scene or storyline and some funny jokes and chadacter dynamics to offer up some life. The later volumes have largely abandoned or weakened those aspecrs without any good narratives or anything to compensate. RWBY's just a disappointingly bad franchise and this is yet another example of why.

UPDATE: After watching the big arc, yeah this is still shit. Nebulous, BS mechanics in a series with notoriously bad worldbuilding, asspulls and contrivances galore, and character randomly using or not using their powers when it's convenient for the plot. Plus, the viduals somehow get even worse by the latter half despite some decent art direction.
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Sep 17, 2022 10:44 PM

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Def not, other than the rushed first 3 episodes, the show is nothing like the actual series. 3/12th of the episodes are canon and the rest are some dream arc thats boring and not relevant towards the story. The comedy and characters are watered down and the fights just are skipped out and not as good as the original


Agree 100%!
There was truly no reason to even use the RWBY characters. It feels like a lazy production. It's as if they had a story and instead of creating the world for it, they forced it onto RWBY's. Square peg, round hole. It doesn't fit.
Sep 28, 2022 8:57 PM

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That's exactly why I watched it. Since I absolutely would have never watched the original adaptation. I'm happy this got made if only for that.

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