Kingdom 4th Season Episode 21 Discussion

RMTWASHERE said:
As an "asian history" nerd, I was kinda disappointed by this episode. Until now, the series had followed history to a tee. Even though it was unclear how qin shi huang (eisei) behaviour was (kind like anime or ruthless like what the next dynasty portrayed him to be), it was clearly stated that eisei (in history) was a believer of legalism. A teaching where they believed that human nature was evil. What eisei stated in this episode was basically confusianism teaching, a total opposite of legalism.

In the end, it was still fiction so let us continue this journey.

Silent_Shadow05 said:
Those ghostly hands Ying Zheng saw, I believe they are the... victims of war.
It was from back then when the leader of Former 6 Great Qin Generals ordered his men to... commit a genocide upon Zhao people. Surrendered soldiers, their families, innocent people, those who failed to flee from the battlefield when it begins... old folks, man, women, children, babies... they were all BURIED ALIVE

That was the greatest war crime Qin has ever committed in that past. Their darkest history before arisen of Qin Shi Huang. It was also the source of hatred with no boundary that Zhao holds against Qin. I have already forgotten the total number of people became victims of that event back then. But, only very few of them managed to crawl their way out. Man Go Ku was one of them, his hatred for Qin became his strength to destroy the kingdom. His family are all buried alive with him. On that day, he was just a small kid, witnessing the Qin soldiers kicked them down the deep pit and bury them with soils, slowly suffocating them to death.

I don't know how few of them managed to crawl out, but I believe their loved ones bite their ropes before they die, releasing them from being tied. ManGoKu and his men are the closest and the actual victims from that event that witnessed and experienced the horror.

rektatron said:
Im not a china history expert but i feel like the speech debate between Ryo Fui and Sei illustrate exactly the modern china. Ryofui's ideology is exactly why the modern China is such a powerhouse, with its economic influence, many countries has to rely on china and can't decouple with them like Modern Japan. Sei's ideology is also well representing the current PRC wants to unify the Chinese territory like Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. China has a lot of different dialects but everyone has a unified dialect which is the Mandarin. In a way Sei's ideology makes you want to understand why modern china's government, the CCP, wants to be the tyrant but ultimately wants the best for its people to grow prosperous and happy in their own metric.

Excellent episode, it might not be an action packed episode like most shounen animes, but it kept me on my chair the whole time. The episode ended too quickly.

On a side note, even thought it only lasted a few seconds, when Ou ki's name was mentioned, my heart skipped a bit. Ouki is my favorite kingdom character and I wish they can give us more of his backstory, like his childhood experience and his POV from his wartime serving the previous Qin king

DarkSageRK said:
Talk, talk, talk. Lmao, who cares? Give us a beach episode already.

GalacticSamurai said:
No you can not compare the filthy ccp to sei,as there is total peace now and china don't have any excuses to become a tyrant country or terrorize their own ppl with the threat of war,they are literaly opposite to the sei.

RMTWASHERE said:
As an "asian history" nerd, I was kinda disappointed by this episode. Until now, the series had followed history to a tee. Even though it was unclear how qin shi huang (eisei) behaviour was (kind like anime or ruthless like what the next dynasty portrayed him to be), it was clearly stated that eisei (in history) was a believer of legalism. A teaching where they believed that human nature was evil. What eisei stated in this episode was basically confusianism teaching, a total opposite of legalism.

In the end, it was still fiction so let us continue this journey.