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Jul 27, 2022 1:56 AM

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Well, I'm a bit lost about all things with Kushida, so I'll be happy if someone told me.

When it was said "the tratior of the Earth group was Kushida", it couldn't mean she was the one who betrayed her group, as they all voted correctly and she was VIP to begin with , so, the betrayal is somethign else. Someone in the comments said it was telling Ryuuen (I think that's his name) from C class the identity. Though... Mars group at the begnning suggested the same method and Neptum also did the same, despite A class' approach, by the way, unless somehow reallyone figuered on their own. So the only reason she's a traitor she's the traitor of D class, whcih means potentiocally there could be only two (Kudida and Horitikazawa), and as Ayanokoji said she was the traitor of the Earth group it shodesn't come as a srurpise, cause everyone knows she was in that group and everyone answered correctly, so she told them. I guess it won't be for the sake of plot, but as I see it, it might as well be a way to face it as a win-win, something Kushida tends to promote, at least on the surface. so she would want to help everyone. She thought she would save someone finding her, than she could risk herself getting zero prfoit of the context, cause this is the only situation she won't gain points. Sp... being selfish made her the traitor...? Cause I don't find a reason for her help Ryuuen personaly, but again, I'm sure they'll find one. Or at least one that will make her look bad.

Another thought: What did Ayanokoji gained by making Kushida choosing between the two options. As we know how she acts (on the surface, at least) she will never try to have a conflict. So it is only natural she wouldn't side any of them. So... what was the gain? Scarking her? Cause unless something additional will happen... there's no reason to suspect of this.


Don't let it bother you, they made mistakes in adaptation. LN ism't fully covered which leads to mistakes, to understand from cover to cover you need to read the LN.
For example the lord of the rings, they showed mostly fights trying to make the look epic, but a lot of things were left out from the book, if they were to cover it, it would took several times more. Same with Harry Porter i hate movies because they show mostly dynamic things leaving important ones behind the scenes. And i don't mention Duna (or Dune not sure how it should be in English). You should enjoy as it is and don't bother with many details or you should read the original. If you are interested in minor parts people might tell you but nobodt can fill you in all the details. Even if people tell you it's just the basic's or concepts if it is enough for you good, otherwise you always should dive youself. Sometimes even reading people skip things bwcause they are hidden and veiled. Why do people don't like Witcher etc ? They dive too deep, and shows can't cover it all up.

What's a missing volume 4.5 is about ? Too much talk about it.

Good to know it's not just my lacking of understanding... I admit I don't buy stuff online and definetely I won't find it here.... And who knows? I may just be confused with the book, as English isn't my mother tounge and their line of thought is a bit hard for me follow. I guess they'll epolain it eventually.


Jul 27, 2022 6:19 AM

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i ain't gon lie this season bores the shit out of me
Jul 27, 2022 6:41 AM

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Seriously tho, Horikita wanted to reach Class A, and she know full well that it is a team fight ALL the time in every games.

Why the fuck does she need to act like that? Is she idiot as a character or is the author being idiot trying to make Ayanokouji shines?

Can someone enlighten me?
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Jul 27, 2022 6:57 AM
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BROOO AYANOKOJI KNOWS EVERYTHING
Jul 27, 2022 9:44 AM
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The shift from one arc to another felt too abrupt. They could have done a better job with that.
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Jul 28, 2022 12:25 AM

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Looks like we got ourselves a solid bait for the traitor. MC looks like he's already prepared for the next arc which happened slightly faster than i expected. The athletic event will be unpredictable with MC's plan but I guess it will be a good one.
Jul 28, 2022 7:17 AM

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After every episode, I just end up with one question... what is this man cooking? LOL Can't wait to see what's more to come in this show.
Jul 28, 2022 8:07 PM

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Finally caught up, oooh Kushida betrayed her group because of femc? But AK just mentioned that she only betrayed them at that time, hmmm i hope she is not the traitor in the sports fest competition thingy.
Jul 30, 2022 9:24 AM
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a decent episode with mild brainstorming
ayanokoji did a good job with explaining suzune about the three leged race
and well im not much surprised about kushida lmao its always people like that who have a whole different side to them
Jul 30, 2022 9:12 PM

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I am convinced that by the end this'll turn supernatural and we find out Ayanokougi is a summoned demon or the devil's son.

Ayanokougi I was happy to see Ayanokougi knock Horikita down a few pegs at the track. The girls were watching, too. That might win him some favor.

Aug 2, 2022 2:48 AM

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Ayanokoji and his average grip strength lol.

Horikita is as uncompromising as usual. She's going to make her classmate hate her.

Aug 9, 2022 10:15 AM
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well...didn't expect Kushida to do such a thing
Aug 13, 2022 2:04 PM

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Oh man, THAT was a great episode. Getting excited for the new few episodes. And to see the traitor...
Aug 22, 2022 12:06 AM
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It was good but I still am disappointed in the fact that, Ayanokoji's underdog nature is now being uplifted, instead of doing things and controlling people secretly, he now does it openly which goes against his original character in season 1
Aug 23, 2022 7:28 PM
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rule number 1 : dont trust anyone
Aug 24, 2022 9:25 AM

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Took me a while to finish this episode, couldn't recall what happened. Hopefully Ayanokouji explains how he found the traitor.
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Sep 3, 2022 12:31 AM
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wtf?? what on earth happened to the vip test it feels as if i skipped a whole episode at least

Sep 14, 2022 12:01 AM

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Horikita needed to be pulled down a few pegs, and
I wanna know how Ayanokouji's mind works 'coz he's Master Manipulator without anyone of his classmates realizing what he was doing lol
Sep 22, 2022 8:05 AM
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I loved it start to finish
Sep 24, 2022 10:09 AM
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it was good not to insanne
Sep 26, 2022 1:35 PM
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Sep 30, 2022 3:29 PM

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Im surprised I didn't know she was the traitor but she would be easier to have been the traitor.
Oct 6, 2022 12:37 AM
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It was a pretty decent episode overall, but the ending of the episode was a personal highlight for me.
Oct 10, 2022 5:02 AM
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Would've been nice if they could adapt some chapters from volume 4.5 (a collection of some of our characters' summer vacation stories that occur after the cruise ship VIP test) to smooth out the transition between these two arcs, but that really is just a nitpick and not too much of an issue.

This episode was handled well imo; nothing felt too lacking. Although I myself still don't get why Ayanokouji asked Karuizawa to disagree with Horikita for the sake of asking for Kushida's opinion. Was it to determine if Kushida was the traitor? And if so, HOW does that determine her as the traitor?

Anyway, I'm really curious as to how much Ayanokouji actually could've pulled in the grip test. Probably over 100kg since that's the figure he mentions to himself when talking about muscle mass and such

This arc contains some rather substantial character development for Horikita later on, and even for Sudou as well. However I don't exactly remember them covering enough of it.... hopefully my memory is just bad and they actually included everything necessary. As long as one particular conversation between Horikita and Sudou is kept in, I think it'll be all good.


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Oct 17, 2022 3:01 PM

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Boring ep nothing happened really man I thought this season was gonna be better than first one :/

Hope it gets better later



Oct 17, 2022 9:42 PM

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HOw dod He knows that She's the traitor from Class D? Hmm...
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Nov 3, 2022 11:21 AM

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Damn don't go after crazy gal kushida, you can't blame her for her breasts taking over. :c

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Nov 14, 2022 12:36 AM
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Best part is Ayanokoji shwoing Horikita her place.

Great episode, went by in 5 minutes for me.
Nov 15, 2022 12:27 PM
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It was nice to watch
Jan 1, 2023 9:32 AM
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Mar 12, 2023 9:46 AM
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Kei is Kiyotaka's bitch at this point, with the bonus of her starting to develop feelings for him. Very nice. Kiyotaka is the kind of chad I aspire to become.
Mar 18, 2023 6:21 AM

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There was a nose-dive in quality this episode.
Jul 17, 2023 3:56 AM
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Horikita is so fricken annoying I know why kushida hates her, like stop being high and mighty. She is the 2nd worst girl in this fricken series after kushida.
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Aug 27, 2023 4:39 AM

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Horikita is really not fit to be called an "elite"... like most of the class actually.
Nov 18, 2023 12:20 PM
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I'm waiting for season three
Jan 5, 2024 12:25 PM
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Kushida was the traitor, I didn't expect that!
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Jan 5, 2024 4:04 PM
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EP 4

So much talking and yet so little

So arisu didnt show up at all in ep 123
Class a embarassed themselves twice now, are they just going to sit and take it? class b too indirectly.
Because of the events, if i recall the numbers from s1 correctly, class c is literally right behind class b now? if there had been any more class c would have overtaken b. while a's Position is of course kind of shaky right now. while class d not much has changed simply because the initial point gap was ridiculous to begin with

Meanwhile its ep 4 and they still have to back explain previous episode. who knows


The problem right now is that, he says he thinks kushida is a traitor, but where did this come from?
Of course he's like the only person that knows about her, and conveniently kushida has been losing screentime, while suzune has had some here and there
Idk if sakura will ever get screentime again. quite literally used like a tool and thrown away, I really dislike it when people do this. The class isnt even that big, but I guess for now the problem is that sakura does not contribute anything

Basically an introduction to the next arc, and the setup of the whole traitor thing and suzune vs kei and class manipulation.
Honestly so much words, and honestly it just felt like a continuation of ep 3, every ep it just gets darker and darker.
While they did joke at the mc being not omniscient or omnipotent it still doesnt change the fact that he's completely op, everything has been going according to plan so far, if not even more
Like they deliberately point out that suzune has flaws, and while idk about kei or kushida like, its kinda silly really.

So far since this is a sports arc, the only thing they can do is try to optimize their preparations and setup as much as they can. I'm still expecting there to be some kind of twist, and it sounds like an easy way for class a to gain points. But is class bc really going to just sit around and lose? I dunno man

Suzune is implied to be at least slightly above average in sports, but who knows. Its not like one person can just carry the whole class. or can

Another thing of note is some people may like the whole mystery unreliable narrator thing but I dont, it just feels like a troll
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The problem right now is that, he says he thinks kushida is a traitor, but where did this come from?

The guy from class C literally said it to Suzune in 3rd episode and Ayanakoji heard it. Idk why did they make Suzune's reaction look like that, because she was already told that the traitor was Kushida before.
Jan 28, 2024 7:55 PM
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Okay we’re seeing Kei becoming more in love with Ayanokoji, she’s pretty much whipped to him at this point😭

Wow Kushida being the traitor surprised me yet at the same time made me think that suits her since her character is tricking everyone into thinking she’s actually a nice person

Ayanokoji putting Horikita in her place and telling her she needs to be a little nicer to the other classmates made me feel hype bc while I do love Horikita she needs to take it down a notch just a little bit bc the class is simply trying their best yet she be shitting on them😭
Jan 31, 2024 2:41 PM

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Ayanokoji got Kei astroturfin' in class just to get Kushida's opinion.

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Apr 20, 2024 3:54 PM

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I loved how Sudou lied to Ayanokouji, making him stand out more although I doubt it means much.

Kushida being the traitor is weird, I wonder what the reason is.
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Aug 9, 2024 12:05 AM

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Pretty much suits Kushida being the traitor because of her true nature heh.

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Considering ayanokoji's true personality and the way he's treating karuizawa makes me feel like she's gonna produce Stockholm syndrome for ayanokoji lol.

Ayanokoji being dumbfounded after sudo give him the wrong information about strength was hilarious, a genius can't outsmart your intelligence if you have 0 intelligence

It's good to see horikita getting the taste of her own medicine, academic score is all she have,outside of that she's just your average D class defect student

Kuhida becoming traitor wasn't out of question especially if you know her true rotten personality
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