RandomPerson9348 said:Ikutaayase said:I don't know how react to the conclusion of such story. It's just ended like that. And unfortunately I didn't really got the enjoyment I supposedly had taken of and that made me disappointed actually. I felt like I'm just wasting my time. But I think it's quite good though and I give it an 8 overall. Nothing much to say but I'm curious for those who got hooked out off this series and thought it was magnificently well written tale. lmk your opinion.
Nisemonogatari. The first time I watched, I was not impressed by the final confrontation with Kaiki. Maybe I wasn't paying attention, or maybe I was just not trying to understand it. But that conversation might be one of the most brilliant ones in the show.
Kaiki manages to establish himself as a threat, and mentally torture Senjougahara and Araragi while just saying sorry. And he does this not for pleasure of mind, but because he wants to make sure they don't come after this. How? By telling them that their lives are meaningless. But even after this, he is empathetic.
On the surface, however, it might not seem like this is the case. It feels like he is just answering their questions and explaining himself. But it is the way that he constantly puts pressure on the fact that the Cinderswarm Bee is not real, that makes you think twice. He is not talking about the Bee, but aberrations in general. And he is right.
In Bakemonogatari, it is established that abberations exist only because of humans thinking about them, and if they stopped, the abberations would disappear. You don't think about it at first, but when Kaiki talks about the Bee, you realise he is talking about all of them. None of the abberations are actually real. All of them are fake, imitations of imagination.
Throughout Nise, at least in the LN, Araragi puts a lot of emphasis on the word fake. He calls a lot of people "fakes" and explains how they are not worthy of their titles. The only people he never calls this are the main girls of Bakemonogatari. He continuosly praises and talks good about them. But the problem here is that all of them met him due to abberations.
When Kaiki comes along and tells him that aberrations are fake, it kind of shatters his whole world. Because Kaiki is right. They all came to this point, technically, because of belief in a story. And if some random guy in a village about 1000 years ago hadn't thought about a crab god, Hitagi wouldn't be with him. Same with all of the other people who have brought him out of the cocoon he created around himself. His relationships with them are based on the most shaky thing possible.
Use this information, and the other stuff you get later on, and think about it from Hitagi's side. It gets a bit worse for her.
This is just from around 12 pages of the LN, and about 8-10 minutes of the anime. The way Monogatari effortlessly connects just about everything around its world and characters is incredible. The characters themselves are carefully crafted to have the best possible impact in the story. They are complex, contradictory, and most importantly, believable. There is literally no filler dialogue. Even the descriptions in the LN eventually add to something. You just need to think about it long enough.
