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| I am glad they made this a back to back episode, since waiting a whole week for this would have been torture. So much to unwrap in this episode. So as many people saw coming, Watson's killer ended up being Lestrade. They kept it hidden until the last moment, and I was starting to second guess myself, but when Lupin and Sherlock had a fantastically animated fight scene and Lupin shot Sherlock, I knew the moment Sherlock fell to the ground what was going to happen next. Lily remembered the scene from her past and remembered Lestrade's face. He slipped up badly when he mentioned Lily's scarf to Holmes. The reveal of the Raven turned out to anti-climactic, and that is pretty much how I see this entire storyline. I was a little disappointed in how the story was handled, though that's probably due to expectations. I thought it would be a great clash between Lupin and Holmes, like in the first two episodes, but in the end they were more friends than allies. Lestrade was predictable and also had nothing really going for him, while the other guy who appeared also was forgettable. A lot of things don't make sense upon close examination. So the painting was a red herring to the dark room, which itself was just a trap.....so what was the point of the super complicated self destruct room which could only be activated by shedding light on it if there wasn't a purpose for its existence in the first place? It sounded cool, but it didn't make much sense. Additionally, they all miraculously survived the huge building-destruction explosion somehow, and Lily still had the nerve to ask if Lupin made it out alive like it wasn't crazy for her to make it out alive. It definitely was weird, though we know that explosions in Lupin are hardly dangerous. Likewise, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Lestrade survived his own explosion at the end. Despite the Raven being an anti-climactic reveal, I do like the explanation behind the legend and how that caused the Raven to turn out to be. That being said, for an entire storyline, the payoff wasn't great. Really, the Raven was there to add a deeper darker mystery to the season instead of it just being the culprit of Watson's killer, but in the end, the culprit of Watson's killer was the entire mystery. This should have been a movie. The flow, runtime, and plot would have fit much better. That reveal at the end though with Moriarty was awesome. I wonder if he will make another appearance later. I guess we will see. The next episode looks like it will start a new arc, so we may be done with London for now, though we will find out next episode. The next arc is called "Woman" and will have a new ED, Bitter Rain by Sakura Fujiwara, and there will be a new soundtrack released in about a month. Based off past seasons, it's possible that Sherlock and Lily might make an appearance towards the end of the next arc so it all ties together, but that might not happen. I hope it does, since I really want to see more Sherlock in action, since we didn't get as much as I hoped. All in all, I think this was the weakest main storyline of the last three seasons. Hopefully the next one is better. |
anime-primeDec 25, 2021 12:01 PM
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| Was Moriarty voiced by Akira Ishida? I liked how The Raven was presented as some sort of all-powerful thing but in the end it turned out that organisation has fallen apart years ago. Tho this was revealed at the beginning of episode 11. |
alshuDec 25, 2021 1:20 PM
| I agree with anime-prime. There was also a big emphasis on the possibility of adressing Lupin's morality as this part seemed to have a more morally ambiguous Lupin at first due to the whole "villain" thing in the trailers but that was also incredibly underwhelming. The second part looks interesting but I'm not sure how I feel seeing the anime explore the subject of seems like that would give too much information about Lupin's background which could make the character less versatile and mysterious. That might not happen though, as this topic may also be tackled very superficially Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
anime-primeDec 26, 2021 7:24 AM
Jose_prs said: Yeah, I was going to mention the ambiguous morality thing, and it really bugged me as the whole point of it apparently was to make us believe he actually shot Watson, though we all knew right away that he didn't, but I am holding out hope that it will be tackled in the next arc. Otherwise the whole bait with I agree with anime-prime. There was also a big emphasis on the possibility of adressing Lupin's morality as this part seemed to have a more morally ambiguous Lupin at first due to the whole "villain" thing in the trailers but that was also incredibly underwhelming. The second part looks interesting but I'm not sure how I feel seeing the anime explore the subject of seems like that would give too much information about Lupin's background which could make the character less versatile and mysterious. That might not happen though, as this topic may also be tackled very superficially might just be as disappointing a bait as the "Lupin is evil" bait we had before. |
anime-primeDec 26, 2021 7:32 AM
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| From what I can judge this first half was far inferior compared to what Part V was. I wonder why that is the case? It had everything to be a good Lupin anime but I guess we're slinking back to the mediocrity of those early 2000s specials. |
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| I guess the whole Lupin vs. Holmes was just a smokescreen since both of them were after Raven for different reasons. Next episode is looking like a trip to NYC as we discover the mystery of Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
anime-primeDec 29, 2021 2:37 PM
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| This is becoming something real good. Can't wait for 2nd half. |
| At least we got the truth about Watson's case, that bomb suicide was to expect... but damn Moriarty at the end :o |
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| This whole arc really sucked. |
| So the big conspiracy was just a big literal dud and her dad died for nothing, great twist. /s Moriarty appearing at the end was neat though |
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