Time to lose all credibility. (spoilers)

Nov 29, 2021 7:34 PM

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GGPoke said:
Okay so, I have read the promised neverland manga to completion. I picked it up when volume 1 dropped in the US without knowing anything about it. And I really liked it! I also really enjoyed season 1 of the anime, though not as much as the manga. But as the manga went on, it started to lose me around volume 15. It did get better imo, but I had a few problems with it. However, with season 2 of the anime, it actually fixed my biggest issues. Emma's arc feels so much more believable, and that was my number one complaint about the manga. I hated what her character became, and while she keeps those elements in the anime, I think it was much better. What am I talking about? Her becoming a demon lover. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't make sense for Emma to kill a bunch of demons and suddenly stop when Norman mentions the genocide. In the anime, she doesn't kill any demons besides one single wild one out of self defense. This was much, much smarter for her character. I also felt like Norman wasn't as much of a cunt in the anime as he was in the manga. He still did bad shit, but he saw the errors of his ways first hand, unlike what happened in the manga where Emma used the power of friendship or whatever. The anime definitely has it's own problems (Pretty much the last episode), but it deserves so much more credit than it gets on this site.

I definitely respect your opinion, but I can just never level with it I'm sorry lol.

Nov 29, 2021 7:36 PM

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Well that's more than I could ever ask for lol, so thank you for hearing me out at least

Nov 29, 2021 7:51 PM

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GGPoke said:
Okay so, I have read the promised neverland manga to completion. I picked it up when volume 1 dropped in the US without knowing anything about it. And I really liked it! I also really enjoyed season 1 of the anime, though not as much as the manga. But as the manga went on, it started to lose me around volume 15. It did get better imo, but I had a few problems with it. However, with season 2 of the anime, it actually fixed my biggest issues. Emma's arc feels so much more believable, and that was my number one complaint about the manga. I hated what her character became, and while she keeps those elements in the anime, I think it was much better. What am I talking about? Her becoming a demon lover. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't make sense for Emma to kill a bunch of demons and suddenly stop when Norman mentions the genocide. In the anime, she doesn't kill any demons besides one single wild one out of self defense. This was much, much smarter for her character. I also felt like Norman wasn't as much of a cunt in the anime as he was in the manga. He still did bad shit, but he saw the errors of his ways first hand, unlike what happened in the manga where Emma used the power of friendship or whatever. The anime definitely has it's own problems (Pretty much the last episode), but it deserves so much more credit than it gets on this site.

Honestly this kinda makes sense, especially from someone who hasn't read the manga and is taking your word for what happens to Emma
Season 2 still sucked though.

All opinions are valid, unless they hurt people. Or suck.

Nov 29, 2021 8:58 PM

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GGPoke said:
Okay so, I have read the promised neverland manga to completion. I picked it up when volume 1 dropped in the US without knowing anything about it. And I really liked it! I also really enjoyed season 1 of the anime, though not as much as the manga. But as the manga went on, it started to lose me around volume 15. It did get better imo, but I had a few problems with it. However, with season 2 of the anime, it actually fixed my biggest issues. Emma's arc feels so much more believable, and that was my number one complaint about the manga. I hated what her character became, and while she keeps those elements in the anime, I think it was much better. What am I talking about? Her becoming a demon lover. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't make sense for Emma to kill a bunch of demons and suddenly stop when Norman mentions the genocide. In the anime, she doesn't kill any demons besides one single wild one out of self defense. This was much, much smarter for her character. I also felt like Norman wasn't as much of a cunt in the anime as he was in the manga. He still did bad shit, but he saw the errors of his ways first hand, unlike what happened in the manga where Emma used the power of friendship or whatever. The anime definitely has it's own problems (Pretty much the last episode), but it deserves so much more credit than it gets on this site.

I totally agree with you, and I really appreciate your post, at least I am sure now that I am not the only person that appreciate 2nd season.
It is always unfair to criticize something because it didn't match how we preceived it at first, and we start judging it based on the nostalgic feeling rather than analyzing it objectively.
The series with both season 1 and 2 is a great anime package if not phenomenal. Although, I think the last couple of episodes could have been better.

Nov 30, 2021 12:38 AM

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GGPoke said:
Okay so, I have read the promised neverland manga to completion. I picked it up when volume 1 dropped in the US without knowing anything about it. And I really liked it! I also really enjoyed season 1 of the anime, though not as much as the manga. But as the manga went on, it started to lose me around volume 15. It did get better imo, but I had a few problems with it. However, with season 2 of the anime, it actually fixed my biggest issues. Emma's arc feels so much more believable, and that was my number one complaint about the manga. I hated what her character became, and while she keeps those elements in the anime, I think it was much better. What am I talking about? Her becoming a demon lover. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't make sense for Emma to kill a bunch of demons and suddenly stop when Norman mentions the genocide. In the anime, she doesn't kill any demons besides one single wild one out of self defense. This was much, much smarter for her character. I also felt like Norman wasn't as much of a cunt in the anime as he was in the manga. He still did bad shit, but he saw the errors of his ways first hand, unlike what happened in the manga where Emma used the power of friendship or whatever. The anime definitely has it's own problems (Pretty much the last episode), but it deserves so much more credit than it gets on this site.

It’s been a while since I read the manga but from what I remember, Emma only killed wild demons and Leuvis(I think that was his name). Also, I never really saw her being a demon lover but more so a demon sympathizer as she simply believed they had the right to continue living as well. My main problem with the manga was actually the ending.

Nov 30, 2021 12:56 AM

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GGPoke said:
Okay so, I have read the promised neverland manga to completion. I picked it up when volume 1 dropped in the US without knowing anything about it. And I really liked it! I also really enjoyed season 1 of the anime, though not as much as the manga. But as the manga went on, it started to lose me around volume 15. It did get better imo, but I had a few problems with it. However, with season 2 of the anime, it actually fixed my biggest issues. Emma's arc feels so much more believable, and that was my number one complaint about the manga. I hated what her character became, and while she keeps those elements in the anime, I think it was much better. What am I talking about? Her becoming a demon lover. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't make sense for Emma to kill a bunch of demons and suddenly stop when Norman mentions the genocide. In the anime, she doesn't kill any demons besides one single wild one out of self defense. This was much, much smarter for her character. I also felt like Norman wasn't as much of a cunt in the anime as he was in the manga. He still did bad shit, but he saw the errors of his ways first hand, unlike what happened in the manga where Emma used the power of friendship or whatever. The anime definitely has it's own problems (Pretty much the last episode), but it deserves so much more credit than it gets on this site.

The season 2 is not worthy praising over the manga, the original story itself.
Don't underestimate the Goldy Pond place in the manga!

yes.

Nov 30, 2021 7:13 AM

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They butchered the plot. Force ending. It was good when you didn't read the manga but if you did they cut a lot of scenarios. Maybe they was short in fund. S2 was great even earned lots of viewers and good response. Cant understand why they cut it short in s2.

Nov 30, 2021 7:56 AM

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Idk, I thought it was crap still having not read the manga. If it’s truly better than the manga, then the manga must be complete ass.

Nov 30, 2021 11:17 AM

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GGPoke said:
Okay so, I have read the promised neverland manga to completion. I picked it up when volume 1 dropped in the US without knowing anything about it. And I really liked it! I also really enjoyed season 1 of the anime, though not as much as the manga. But as the manga went on, it started to lose me around volume 15. It did get better imo, but I had a few problems with it. However, with season 2 of the anime, it actually fixed my biggest issues. Emma's arc feels so much more believable, and that was my number one complaint about the manga. I hated what her character became, and while she keeps those elements in the anime, I think it was much better. What am I talking about? Her becoming a demon lover. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't make sense for Emma to kill a bunch of demons and suddenly stop when Norman mentions the genocide. In the anime, she doesn't kill any demons besides one single wild one out of self defense. This was much, much smarter for her character. I also felt like Norman wasn't as much of a cunt in the anime as he was in the manga. He still did bad shit, but he saw the errors of his ways first hand, unlike what happened in the manga where Emma used the power of friendship or whatever. The anime definitely has it's own problems (Pretty much the last episode), but it deserves so much more credit than it gets on this site.

The season 2 is not worthy praising over the manga, the original story itself.
Don't underestimate the Goldy Pond place in the manga!

Oh don't get me wrong, Goldy Pond is the second best arc
But skipping it doesn't make s2 bad imo
It's much better than something like TG root A

Nov 30, 2021 11:20 AM

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Mgst123 said:
They butchered the plot. Force ending. It was good when you didn't read the manga but if you did they cut a lot of scenarios. Maybe they was short in fund. S2 was great even earned lots of viewers and good response. Cant understand why they cut it short in s2.

They wanted to tell a different story with s2, so it makes sense to cut some stuff
Though they really fucked the ending
But another thing could be impact from the pandemic, but we will never know how much it affected this production

Nov 30, 2021 3:03 PM

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GGPoke said:

DarkOpposite said:

The season 2 is not worthy praising over the manga, the original story itself.
Don't underestimate the Goldy Pond place in the manga!

Oh don't get me wrong, Goldy Pond is the second best arc
But skipping it doesn't make s2 bad imo
It's much better than something like TG root A

Goldy pond was not the only thing that was skipped!
We didn't see Yuugo!
We didn't see Emma while she was using guns!
We didn't see Norman's big mansion or something!
We didn't see Isabella dying!
We didn't see them reforging the promise!
If those things were included, believe me, everyone would love season 2.
Those things were the things that basically made the manga better.
Every good part is basically skipped.
Even Yuugo being alive would make me give it a 7/10!
I would've not read the manga if that was the case but unfortunately it's not.
The ending of season 2 is all fucked up!
It's a PowerPoint presentation or something bruh I didn't watch the season 2 to see them showing me 500 fucking images for 20 minutes straight!

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Nov 30, 2021 3:08 PM

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GGPoke said:

Mgst123 said:
They butchered the plot. Force ending. It was good when you didn't read the manga but if you did they cut a lot of scenarios. Maybe they was short in fund. S2 was great even earned lots of viewers and good response. Cant understand why they cut it short in s2.

They wanted to tell a different story with s2, so it makes sense to cut some stuff
Though they really fucked the ending
But another thing could be impact from the pandemic, but we will never know how much it affected this production

What the hell is the point of deciding to just show us fake shit while we are awaiting the original story scenes?

How would pandemic make them fucking skip 144 chapters worth of content?!?
They could've just delayed the anime, it's not like they're being threatened to finish it at that exact moment.
Explain it to me!

yes.

Nov 30, 2021 3:13 PM

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GGPoke said:
Okay so, I have read the promised neverland manga to completion. I picked it up when volume 1 dropped in the US without knowing anything about it. And I really liked it! I also really enjoyed season 1 of the anime, though not as much as the manga. But as the manga went on, it started to lose me around volume 15. It did get better imo, but I had a few problems with it. However, with season 2 of the anime, it actually fixed my biggest issues. Emma's arc feels so much more believable, and that was my number one complaint about the manga. I hated what her character became, and while she keeps those elements in the anime, I think it was much better. What am I talking about? Her becoming a demon lover. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't make sense for Emma to kill a bunch of demons and suddenly stop when Norman mentions the genocide. In the anime, she doesn't kill any demons besides one single wild one out of self defense. This was much, much smarter for her character. I also felt like Norman wasn't as much of a cunt in the anime as he was in the manga. He still did bad shit, but he saw the errors of his ways first hand, unlike what happened in the manga where Emma used the power of friendship or whatever. The anime definitely has it's own problems (Pretty much the last episode), but it deserves so much more credit than it gets on this site.

I totally agree with you, and I really appreciate your post, at least I am sure now that I am not the only person that appreciate 2nd season.
It is always unfair to criticize something because it didn't match how we preceived it at first, and we start judging it based on the nostalgic feeling rather than analyzing it objectively.
The series with both season 1 and 2 is a great anime package if not phenomenal. Although, I think the last couple of episodes could have been better.

It's bad to criticize the anime because it didn't come out as we expected???

The season 2 is off the line!
This is less than our less expectations.

They skipped 144 chapters worth of content, the season 2 is basically filled with fillers!

Season 2 and the manga aren't accurate, it's not even a little bit the same.
Every best part that made this anime is skipped.

yes.

Nov 30, 2021 3:14 PM

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ghier said:
Idk, I thought it was crap still having not read the manga. If it’s truly better than the manga, then the manga must be complete ass.

The manga is better than this season 2 shit.
Season 2 may be better if you never even read the manga a bit.
But we, the ones who read the manga know that season 2 is basically bullshit.

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Nov 30, 2021 4:10 PM

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DarkOpposite said:

GGPoke said:

Oh don't get me wrong, Goldy Pond is the second best arc
But skipping it doesn't make s2 bad imo
It's much better than something like TG root A

Goldy pond was not the only thing that was skipped!
We didn't see Yuugo!
We didn't see Emma while she was using guns!
We didn't see Norman's big mansion or something!
We didn't see Isabella dying!
We didn't see them reforging the promise!
If those things were included, believe me, everyone would love season 2.
Those things were the things that basically made the manga better.
Every good part is basically skipped.
Even Yuugo being alive would make me give it a 7/10!
I would've not read the manga if that was the case but unfortunately it's not.
The ending of season 2 is all fucked up!
It's a PowerPoint presentation or something bruh I didn't watch the season 2 to see them showing me 500 fucking images for 20 minutes straight!

While yes, those are good elements from the manga, my original argument was that the anime fixed certain character arcs that I didn't care for in the manga. Yuugo was one of my favorite characters, and seeing him being written out was definitely strange. I also said I don't like the ending of season 2 much, as it is just scenes being skipped over; however, I enjoy season 2 for what it is and brought to the table outside of the last 10 minutes of episode 11. Would I have loved to see those elements in the anime? Yes, of course. But I also appreciate what the anime did, as it being different made for a more interesting watch through.

Nov 30, 2021 4:13 PM

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DarkOpposite said:

GGPoke said:

They wanted to tell a different story with s2, so it makes sense to cut some stuff
Though they really fucked the ending
But another thing could be impact from the pandemic, but we will never know how much it affected this production

What the hell is the point of deciding to just show us fake shit while we are awaiting the original story scenes?

How would pandemic make them fucking skip 144 chapters worth of content?!?
They could've just delayed the anime, it's not like they're being threatened to finish it at that exact moment.
Explain it to me!

Uh, what?
I don't think you know what filler means.
By that definetion, Evangelion is full of filler because not everything is in the manga
Filler isn't just anime original content, it's content that is only made to fill up time for the manga to release more chapters or the studio to gain back production time, neither of which apply to TPN 2

Dec 2, 2021 1:53 AM

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I haven't read the manga, but my main gripe with season 2 was how rushed it felt. Events that should have been built up to slowly were kind of just thrown out at us nonstop, and the ending was just... I didn't even know what to say, it was so terrible.

S1 was so amazing for me because it got that pacing right. Every major plot point felt weighty and significant, and plot twists were allowed plenty of deliberation to really add an extra layer of surprise. S2 felt like something an 11 year old kid could have conceptualised and produced in a 30 minute long freewriting session. I gave it a 3 on my list. I really don't think I could justify giving it anything more.

Dec 2, 2021 12:06 PM

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GGPoke said:

DarkOpposite said:

What the hell is the point of deciding to just show us fake shit while we are awaiting the original story scenes?

How would pandemic make them fucking skip 144 chapters worth of content?!?
They could've just delayed the anime, it's not like they're being threatened to finish it at that exact moment.
Explain it to me!

Uh, what?
I don't think you know what filler means.
By that definetion, Evangelion is full of filler because not everything is in the manga
Filler isn't just anime original content, it's content that is only made to fill up time for the manga to release more chapters or the studio to gain back production time, neither of which apply to TPN 2

I never talked about fillers in my quote.

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Dec 2, 2021 12:40 PM

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DarkOpposite said:

Uranium92 said:

I totally agree with you, and I really appreciate your post, at least I am sure now that I am not the only person that appreciate 2nd season.
It is always unfair to criticize something because it didn't match how we preceived it at first, and we start judging it based on the nostalgic feeling rather than analyzing it objectively.
The series with both season 1 and 2 is a great anime package if not phenomenal. Although, I think the last couple of episodes could have been better.

It's bad to criticize the anime because it didn't come out as we expected???

The season 2 is off the line!
This is less than our less expectations.

They skipped 144 chapters worth of content, the season 2 is basically filled with fillers!

Season 2 and the manga aren't accurate, it's not even a little bit the same.
Every best part that made this anime is skipped.

I meant to quote this lol

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