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Answering the doubts about "tonal inconsistencies" in the film

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Oct 19, 2021 1:01 AM
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*Note - A tad bit long


I have seen a lot of posts and comments about how there are inconsistencies in the anime and the film and how Gilbert coming back and Violet joining him was unsatisfying. Here is an explanation for why I don't think so -


The anime was never about moving on from the past. It is rather about getting closer to the past. It is not about getting over Gilbert, but getting nearer to him. Throughout the show, there are many points at which we see Violet wondering about the bad things she has done by killing all of these people. But at the same time, she would not have met Gilbert if she wasn't a part of the war.
The past is important because it has made Violet into the person she is. If she had just left and become a normal girl after Gilbert took her in, then she would be vastly different, and rather uninteresting character. It helps her become much more humble, and gives her the perfect motivation to better herself after the war ends. And these are Gilbert's final words to her.
To understand what those words meant, she becomes an Auto Memory Doll and starts writing letters. In the process, she begins to have a basic understanding of human emotions and feelings. And even after learning about his death, she keeps going, in the hopes of understanding his final words, which are even more important to her now.
If the story was about moving on, it would have an ending close to, "Sure, Gilbert was a very close person to me, but now he is dead and what matters is that I am a better person because of him.". But rather, the ending is more along the lines of, "Now I finally understand human emotions and can understand what Gilbert told me all that time ago."
It is about becoming a better human to appreciate your past and present and not about moving on from the past. That is more Cowboy Bebop's thing. And if you compare, these are very different shows with very different themes. In VE, it all ends up with the simple situation of Violet having a better understanding of human emotions. That is what the show was about.


The movie has a very realistic and bittersweet approach to this theme. Gilbert being alive is like Violet's final exam. It is like studying the entire year to finally pass this test. That is what the movie is, Violet's final exam. She has spent years as an AMD now and with all her new learnings, she can finally face the person she lost so long ago and show him that she can be the person he wanted to see for so long. In short, it's like your teacher giving you full marks for the final test.
As for the fact that Violet still ends up calling him Major all the time instead of using his name is simple. And that once more reinforces the fact that the anime is not about moving on. Human emotions are complex and layered. You have them since birth, and your childhood helps them grow. Violet never had those. So it would be laughable if she was able to understand all of them in a matter of a few years. She still only understands a little bit of what it all means.
She still has a part of her old self inside her mind. And Gilbert is still her Major to her, no matter what. To just go ahead and call him Gilbert probably would not happen for another five or six years after the movie ends.


TL;DR - The anime is about learning from the present to better appreciate your past and present. The movie is about using these learnings to finally get closure and self-satisfaction in the fact that the person who wanted you to be like this, approves of your current self. Violet has always done what she did for Gilbert. And if it doesn't end with her getting appreciation from him for growing so much, it is kinda pointless from her perspective.
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Oct 19, 2021 2:38 AM
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This just defeats every criticism in the most accurate way possible wow niceee. But ngl they should create a side story with the other charcters like short or something. It will be good to see more of Benedict,Cattleya and Hodgins and the others
Oct 19, 2021 2:48 AM
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Where is Taylor from the first movie here? We know she is living with Violet now but we never see her.

That was really stupid and made me think like the first movie was just some non canon BS and they made us get so invested in it only for that paticular story line to never get resolved.
Oct 19, 2021 2:57 AM
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DamonElix said:
Where is Taylor from the first movie here? We know she is living with Violet now but we never see her.

That was really stupid and made me think like the first movie was just some non canon BS and they made us get so invested in it only for that paticular story line to never get resolved.

I literally forgot about Taylor lol. I liked that movie but when I saw this one, I just rewatched the anime. So I can't say much about that because I don't completely remember it; just the gist.
Oct 19, 2021 2:59 AM
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AmeyaPalvankar said:
This just defeats every criticism in the most accurate way possible wow niceee. But ngl they should create a side story with the other charcters like short or something. It will be good to see more of Benedict,Cattleya and Hodgins and the others

I know right! That small interaction between Hodgins and Benedict playing tennis/badminton (don't remember) was really fun to watch. Even though that eventually connected to Violet. But they are cool characters on their own, despite not being that developed or focused on.
Oct 20, 2021 3:49 AM
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VarunBalodi330 said:
AmeyaPalvankar said:
This just defeats every criticism in the most accurate way possible wow niceee. But ngl they should create a side story with the other charcters like short or something. It will be good to see more of Benedict,Cattleya and Hodgins and the others

I know right! That small interaction between Hodgins and Benedict playing tennis/badminton (don't remember) was really fun to watch. Even though that eventually connected to Violet. But they are cool characters on their own, despite not being that developed or focused on.

It will be better if you change the title with this "Answer of your questions regarding this movie's inconsistency" I know it's sound somewhat similar but I guess people will pay attention more when it comes to words like Anser or questions.
Oct 20, 2021 4:47 AM
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Lavi_kun said:
VarunBalodi330 said:

I know right! That small interaction between Hodgins and Benedict playing tennis/badminton (don't remember) was really fun to watch. Even though that eventually connected to Violet. But they are cool characters on their own, despite not being that developed or focused on.

It will be better if you change the title with this "Answer of your questions regarding this movie's inconsistency" I know it's sound somewhat similar but I guess people will pay attention more when it comes to words like Anser or questions.

I'd love to change that. Can you help me out as to how? I saw the page once more just now but I can't seem to find an option like that!
Oct 20, 2021 4:50 AM
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VarunBalodi330 said:
Lavi_kun said:

It will be better if you change the title with this "Answer of your questions regarding this movie's inconsistency" I know it's sound somewhat similar but I guess people will pay attention more when it comes to words like Anser or questions.

I'd love to change that. Can you help me out as to how? I saw the page once more just now but I can't seem to find an option like that!

Check there is edit option in your post below your msg then simply change your topic title .
Oct 20, 2021 5:00 AM
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Lavi_kun said:
VarunBalodi330 said:

I'd love to change that. Can you help me out as to how? I saw the page once more just now but I can't seem to find an option like that!

Check there is edit option in your post below your msg then simply change your topic title .

Done!
Thanks for your idea and help.
Oct 20, 2021 5:02 AM
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VarunBalodi330 said:
Lavi_kun said:

Check there is edit option in your post below your msg then simply change your topic title .

Done!
Thanks for your idea and help.

Welcome bhai .

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Oct 20, 2021 12:20 PM
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DamonElix said:
Where is Taylor from the first movie here? We know she is living with Violet now but we never see her.

That was really stupid and made me think like the first movie was just some non canon BS and they made us get so invested in it only for that paticular story line to never get resolved.
She appeared in the staff photo when Daisy visit the CH postal museum in the future part, and for the present she probably live in Evergarden family
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