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Apr 26, 2021 12:50 PM
#51
g YamiAkaRyu said: Can someone please send me where can i watch it with English sub?... watch on gogoanime |
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Apr 26, 2021 3:48 PM
#52
'Not Wendy' is definitely not as sweet as Wendy. :( FT cameo? It's just for fun right or are the universes actually linked somehow? The 20,000 years later scene came outta nowhere? What was that it and what does it mean? Pretty nice episode on the whole though. |
Apr 26, 2021 4:44 PM
#53
Lelouch0202 said: 'Not Wendy' is definitely not as sweet as Wendy. :( FT cameo? It's just for fun right or are the universes actually linked somehow? The 20,000 years later scene came outta nowhere? What was that it and what does it mean? Pretty nice episode on the whole though. The cameo was just an easter egg :) |
Apr 26, 2021 4:47 PM
#54
and here I was comparing the characters to Fairy Tail and trying to figure out which is which when Lucy and Natsu showed up in the background/ |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
Apr 26, 2021 5:03 PM
#55
MrBrawlz said: g YamiAkaRyu said: Can someone please send me where can i watch it with English sub?... watch on gogoanime No they have the bad sub version inaccurate translation. Kickassanime has the accurate one. The end scene saying 2000 years when its suppose to be 20,000 years |
Apr 27, 2021 1:29 AM
#56
MegamiRem said: I feel you can't compare her to Wendy at all looking at her and how she acts.Enter Labilia, the hotter but dumb and bitchy version of Wendy. She made Rebecca cry so she's bad. Thou I like Rebecca's friend Clarisse, she's a sweety. They went to meet Dr. Weisz and damn that's one interesting planet he lives in. Thou why is he so young? Wasn't he supposed to be some old guy? Also woa 2000 year timeskip suddenly and they found a male and female corpse with B cube that had Edens Zero written on it. Are those Rebecca and Shiki's corpse? The Natsu and Lucy easter egg was nice. |
Apr 27, 2021 1:35 AM
#57
Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. |
Apr 27, 2021 1:37 AM
#58
Ahrum said: Can't really compare anything between characters. She isn't anything like her.The fact that im glad that Wendy grow well at this multi-verse. And what the hell is this?? Yeah i really agree with Rebecca at that. |
Apr 27, 2021 1:40 AM
#59
Lelouch0202 said: Your grasping at Straws to say characters like previous series especially Labilla isn't anything to who your comparing. Got see the characters as they are, not by previous series.'Not Wendy' is definitely not as sweet as Wendy. :( FT cameo? It's just for fun right or are the universes actually linked somehow? The 20,000 years later scene came outta nowhere? What was that it and what does it mean? Pretty nice episode on the whole though. |
Apr 27, 2021 6:45 AM
#60
LordChuckMoe221 said: Your grasping at Straws to say characters like previous series especially Labilla isn't anything to who your comparing. Got see the characters as they are, not by previous series. I think everyone is just trying to make a joke with the comparison. You shouldn't need to take it too seriously. |
Apr 27, 2021 7:16 AM
#61
Lelouch0202 said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Your grasping at Straws to say characters like previous series especially Labilla isn't anything to who your comparing. Got see the characters as they are, not by previous series. I think everyone is just trying to make a joke with the comparison. You shouldn't need to take it too seriously. Nah some people are dead serious about and using it to say there nothing original about Edens Zero. Why do you think people are throwing the term Fairy Tail in Space. That like me going to Samurai 8 manga thread and saying Naruto in Space |
Apr 27, 2021 8:04 AM
#62
LeighV1 said: I sure did and laughed lmaoDid anyone scream when Natsu and Lucy were shown in the background, BECAUSE I SURE AS HELL DID!!!! |
Apr 27, 2021 10:22 AM
#63
LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. |
Apr 27, 2021 11:45 AM
#64
Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Bruh its not that serious. It just DAMN cameos and easter eggs |
Apr 27, 2021 2:32 PM
#65
I personally think that Eden Zero is best when Shiki and Rebecca visit different planets. I like to see a different locations and because thus episode we saw exactly that, I really liked it. 5/5 episode. |
Apr 27, 2021 3:01 PM
#66
What I learned from these 3 episodes so far... The cameo's are huge XD Like taking up most of the screen. I did like it that we were able to see Lucy and Natsu there, while Rebecca says "there was a manga/anime like that before, wasn't there?" to Shiki's comment about a guild. Labilia is a nice combination of Wendy's appearance (excluding the boobs) and Carla's face and nasty attitude. So we're already at the part where they are going to meet up with Weisz, too bad the camera wasn't further down like the manga was. Oh my, I totally forgot about the 20000 years later part. Just from this I really need to start reading it again. |
Apr 27, 2021 6:44 PM
#67
Good adaptation so far |
Apr 28, 2021 8:26 AM
#68
Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. |
Apr 28, 2021 8:38 AM
#69
CeddyyBearr said: What I learned from these 3 episodes so far... The cameo's are huge XD Like taking up most of the screen. I did like it that we were able to see Lucy and Natsu there, while Rebecca says "there was a manga/anime like that before, wasn't there?" to Shiki's comment about a guild. Labilia is a nice combination of Wendy's appearance (excluding the boobs) and Carla's face and nasty attitude. So we're already at the part where they are going to meet up with Weisz, too bad the camera wasn't further down like the manga was. Oh my, I totally forgot about the 20000 years later part. Just from this I really need to start reading it again. Labilia look nothing like Wendy. Don't give me Long Blue hair excuse. Not even the same hair color nor eye color. And don't even say she look like older Wendy because Edolas Wendy already exists. |
Apr 28, 2021 10:08 AM
#70
Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. |
Apr 28, 2021 10:20 AM
#71
Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. |
Apr 28, 2021 10:45 AM
#72
Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. I would probably enjoy it more if I liked Fairy Tail, but even if I was the biggest Fairy Tail fan in the world I would still find it annoying. Like I get it, you made Fairy Tail, you don’t have to keep reminding me because you’re afraid I won’t like your new series if you don’t make constant references to a series I like. The fact that I don’t like Fairy Tail means that I find it even more offputting. I said that most people that enjoy the references enjoy Mashima’s other work. That does not mean that I would enjoy the references if I liked his other work because my criticism has always been about how obnoxious they are appearing so frequently. |
Apr 28, 2021 11:23 AM
#73
Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. I would probably enjoy it more if I liked Fairy Tail, but even if I was the biggest Fairy Tail fan in the world I would still find it annoying. Like I get it, you made Fairy Tail, you don’t have to keep reminding me because you’re afraid I won’t like your new series if you don’t make constant references to a series I like. The fact that I don’t like Fairy Tail means that I find it even more offputting. I said that most people that enjoy the references enjoy Mashima’s other work. That does not mean that I would enjoy the references if I liked his other work because my criticism has always been about how obnoxious they are appearing so frequently. Why do you think he is afraid people won't like his other series if he won't put references from previous work in? Maybe he is just considering his fans and what they like and sprinkling some references and cameos for them in. I personally don't really care if there are or aren't any references. I would enjoy Edens Zero without them. It's just some small cosmetic plus. |
Apr 28, 2021 11:42 AM
#74
Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. I would probably enjoy it more if I liked Fairy Tail, but even if I was the biggest Fairy Tail fan in the world I would still find it annoying. Like I get it, you made Fairy Tail, you don’t have to keep reminding me because you’re afraid I won’t like your new series if you don’t make constant references to a series I like. The fact that I don’t like Fairy Tail means that I find it even more offputting. I said that most people that enjoy the references enjoy Mashima’s other work. That does not mean that I would enjoy the references if I liked his other work because my criticism has always been about how obnoxious they are appearing so frequently. Why do you think he is afraid people won't like his other series if he won't put references from previous work in? Maybe he is just considering his fans and what they like and sprinkling some references and cameos for them in. I personally don't really care if there are or aren't any references. I would enjoy Edens Zero without them. It's just some small cosmetic plus. Because Fairy Tail was his biggest hit and it is the series that he has referenced the most so far in the anime, to an absurd amount. I’m not saying he is doing this because he thinks Edens Zero sucks, but as a way to appeal to his largest fanbase to get them to stick around and hopefully stay with him for the long-haul when the references (hopefully) die down. Granted, this is mostly speculation on my part as a rationalization for why he includes so many Fairy Tail references, but look at the comments on this discussion forum. A large amount of them are talking about how much they loved the cameos and references to Fairy Tail. It is clearly an effective tactic for Mashima, which is why he does so many references to his most popular work(s). While you may not need the references to like this anime/manga, there are probably many Fairy Tail fans that got into it because of all the references. |
Blue_MaroonApr 28, 2021 11:45 AM
Apr 28, 2021 11:51 AM
#75
Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. I would probably enjoy it more if I liked Fairy Tail, but even if I was the biggest Fairy Tail fan in the world I would still find it annoying. Like I get it, you made Fairy Tail, you don’t have to keep reminding me because you’re afraid I won’t like your new series if you don’t make constant references to a series I like. The fact that I don’t like Fairy Tail means that I find it even more offputting. I said that most people that enjoy the references enjoy Mashima’s other work. That does not mean that I would enjoy the references if I liked his other work because my criticism has always been about how obnoxious they are appearing so frequently. Why do you think he is afraid people won't like his other series if he won't put references from previous work in? Maybe he is just considering his fans and what they like and sprinkling some references and cameos for them in. I personally don't really care if there are or aren't any references. I would enjoy Edens Zero without them. It's just some small cosmetic plus. Because Fairy Tail was his biggest hit and it is the series that he has referenced the most so far in the anime, to an absurd amount. I’m not saying he is doing this because he thinks Edens Zero sucks, but as a way to appeal to his largest fanbase to get them to stick around and hopefully stay with him for the long-haul when the references (hopefully) die down. Granted, this is mostly speculation on my part as a rationalization for why he includes so many Fairy Tail references, but look at the comments on this discussion forum. A large amount of them are talking about how much they loved the cameos and references to Fairy Tail. It is clearly an effective tactic for Mashima, which is why he does so many references to his most popular work(s). Why would someone stick around the series just for some references and cameos? If the show would be boring I hell would not. People are dicussiong cameos because well they feel nostalgic and there is nothing wrong with that? Making people read or watch the series for some (probably) references and cameos is the dumbest thing I ever heard for sure. If I go to new series I go for new story but with familiarity of how author works and what I like about his style not that I might see two of my favourite characters from previous work which has nothing to do with the new story (because cameo). WHAT??? |
Apr 28, 2021 1:24 PM
#76
Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. I would probably enjoy it more if I liked Fairy Tail, but even if I was the biggest Fairy Tail fan in the world I would still find it annoying. Like I get it, you made Fairy Tail, you don’t have to keep reminding me because you’re afraid I won’t like your new series if you don’t make constant references to a series I like. The fact that I don’t like Fairy Tail means that I find it even more offputting. I said that most people that enjoy the references enjoy Mashima’s other work. That does not mean that I would enjoy the references if I liked his other work because my criticism has always been about how obnoxious they are appearing so frequently. Why do you think he is afraid people won't like his other series if he won't put references from previous work in? Maybe he is just considering his fans and what they like and sprinkling some references and cameos for them in. I personally don't really care if there are or aren't any references. I would enjoy Edens Zero without them. It's just some small cosmetic plus. Because Fairy Tail was his biggest hit and it is the series that he has referenced the most so far in the anime, to an absurd amount. I’m not saying he is doing this because he thinks Edens Zero sucks, but as a way to appeal to his largest fanbase to get them to stick around and hopefully stay with him for the long-haul when the references (hopefully) die down. Granted, this is mostly speculation on my part as a rationalization for why he includes so many Fairy Tail references, but look at the comments on this discussion forum. A large amount of them are talking about how much they loved the cameos and references to Fairy Tail. It is clearly an effective tactic for Mashima, which is why he does so many references to his most popular work(s). Why would someone stick around the series just for some references and cameos? If the show would be boring I hell would not. People are dicussiong cameos because well they feel nostalgic and there is nothing wrong with that? Making people read or watch the series for some (probably) references and cameos is the dumbest thing I ever heard for sure. If I go to new series I go for new story but with familiarity of how author works and what I like about his style not that I might see two of my favourite characters from previous work which has nothing to do with the new story (because cameo). WHAT??? Yeah I can see you have been missing the point of what I have been saying in all of my posts so we don’t need to discuss this anymore. If we weren’t having this discussion online then I would be willing to do so, but constantly sending paragraphs back and forth is more work than I care about doing. Let’s just leave it at being unable to understand each others’ values when it comes to a show. Cheers. |
Apr 28, 2021 1:49 PM
#77
Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. I would probably enjoy it more if I liked Fairy Tail, but even if I was the biggest Fairy Tail fan in the world I would still find it annoying. Like I get it, you made Fairy Tail, you don’t have to keep reminding me because you’re afraid I won’t like your new series if you don’t make constant references to a series I like. The fact that I don’t like Fairy Tail means that I find it even more offputting. I said that most people that enjoy the references enjoy Mashima’s other work. That does not mean that I would enjoy the references if I liked his other work because my criticism has always been about how obnoxious they are appearing so frequently. Why do you think he is afraid people won't like his other series if he won't put references from previous work in? Maybe he is just considering his fans and what they like and sprinkling some references and cameos for them in. I personally don't really care if there are or aren't any references. I would enjoy Edens Zero without them. It's just some small cosmetic plus. Because Fairy Tail was his biggest hit and it is the series that he has referenced the most so far in the anime, to an absurd amount. I’m not saying he is doing this because he thinks Edens Zero sucks, but as a way to appeal to his largest fanbase to get them to stick around and hopefully stay with him for the long-haul when the references (hopefully) die down. Granted, this is mostly speculation on my part as a rationalization for why he includes so many Fairy Tail references, but look at the comments on this discussion forum. A large amount of them are talking about how much they loved the cameos and references to Fairy Tail. It is clearly an effective tactic for Mashima, which is why he does so many references to his most popular work(s). Why would someone stick around the series just for some references and cameos? If the show would be boring I hell would not. People are dicussiong cameos because well they feel nostalgic and there is nothing wrong with that? Making people read or watch the series for some (probably) references and cameos is the dumbest thing I ever heard for sure. If I go to new series I go for new story but with familiarity of how author works and what I like about his style not that I might see two of my favourite characters from previous work which has nothing to do with the new story (because cameo). WHAT??? Yeah I can see you have been missing the point of what I have been saying in all of my posts so we don’t need to discuss this anymore. If we weren’t having this discussion online then I would be willing to do so, but constantly sending paragraphs back and forth is more work than I care about doing. Let’s just leave it at being unable to understand each others’ values when it comes to a show. Cheers. Oh I understand very well! You think he put cameos and references in because otherwise people won't read his work or even wouldn't try! You think people which are fans of Edens Zero or like it just went in because OMG that character look a bit like that or OMG references. Seriously... |
Apr 28, 2021 2:43 PM
#78
Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: Nagadir-chan said: Blue_Maroon said: LordChuckMoe221 said: Blue_Maroon said: Nothing about the Episode is bad especially when cameo makes you think it off when it's there for fun. None of characters are reused and Happy and Elsie while based on previous series act different and have different purpose in the story. Your overreacting on your side especially what show on the end of episode didn't interest you? Feel like your bandwagon than trying to see series than be shallow about it.The Fairy Tail references continue to be obnoxious with reused character designs and the Natsu cameo. The fanservice is also way more frequent than what is tolerable for a show like this. The animation is very limited too, no surprise with J.C. Staff. Apparantly there will be 25 total episodes, so I have to watch the next 2 episodes before I drop it. I recognize that the characters with reused designs & similar names serve different purposes in this story. However, that doesn’t change how obnoxious it is that this anime has to constantly reference Fairy Tail for no reason other than fanservice (on top of the sexual fanservice that it already provides in droves). As someone that did not like Fairy Tail, this is not helping me judge this series independently because the mangaka is constantly trying to recapture readers by reminding them of his big hit instead of taking the effort to give a new experience. By constantly referencing Fairy Tail, it is essentially telling the audience that this series will be like Fairy Tail even if the narratives are different. The cameo itself is not what I am put-off by, but rather how it represents a long line of unnecessary references to another series to draw in a similar audience. Mashima always referenced things, Fairy Tail is full of references from Rave Master (Etherion, Oracion Seis, Seighart etc). Most of his main characters have names based on four seasons or something in that context. It's like multiverse or something I personally like it a lot Despite that both are very different series. So I don't understand why are you making such a deal out of it. Western comics been doing it for ages. I know that he has done it in other of his series, but does that have any point with what I am saying? I still find it obnoxious because it is constantly shoved down my throat. Most people that like Mashima’s work do enjoy the references (and they are allowed to do so), but I do not, so I just find it annoying. Let it be known that this is not my only reason for not liking this anime so far. I don’t find the characters very compelling. The animation isn’t awful but it leaves much to be desired. The fanservice is eye-rolling. The best part so far was the end of the first episode when the robots chased the MC away so he can explore with a clean conscience and even that was not anything masterful. The incessant references is what I dislike the most about this anime so far, but it isn’t the only thing bringing it down in my eyes. So you don't like it because it's reference but because you don't like Mashima's work generally? You made it sound like making references to previous works is disgusting crime and you are bashing Mashima for it but it is just because you really don't like Fairy Tail. Just say you don't like Mashima and his work and things will be easier instead making claims which makes no sense. I would probably enjoy it more if I liked Fairy Tail, but even if I was the biggest Fairy Tail fan in the world I would still find it annoying. Like I get it, you made Fairy Tail, you don’t have to keep reminding me because you’re afraid I won’t like your new series if you don’t make constant references to a series I like. The fact that I don’t like Fairy Tail means that I find it even more offputting. I said that most people that enjoy the references enjoy Mashima’s other work. That does not mean that I would enjoy the references if I liked his other work because my criticism has always been about how obnoxious they are appearing so frequently. Why do you think he is afraid people won't like his other series if he won't put references from previous work in? Maybe he is just considering his fans and what they like and sprinkling some references and cameos for them in. I personally don't really care if there are or aren't any references. I would enjoy Edens Zero without them. It's just some small cosmetic plus. Because Fairy Tail was his biggest hit and it is the series that he has referenced the most so far in the anime, to an absurd amount. I’m not saying he is doing this because he thinks Edens Zero sucks, but as a way to appeal to his largest fanbase to get them to stick around and hopefully stay with him for the long-haul when the references (hopefully) die down. Granted, this is mostly speculation on my part as a rationalization for why he includes so many Fairy Tail references, but look at the comments on this discussion forum. A large amount of them are talking about how much they loved the cameos and references to Fairy Tail. It is clearly an effective tactic for Mashima, which is why he does so many references to his most popular work(s). Why would someone stick around the series just for some references and cameos? If the show would be boring I hell would not. People are dicussiong cameos because well they feel nostalgic and there is nothing wrong with that? Making people read or watch the series for some (probably) references and cameos is the dumbest thing I ever heard for sure. If I go to new series I go for new story but with familiarity of how author works and what I like about his style not that I might see two of my favourite characters from previous work which has nothing to do with the new story (because cameo). WHAT??? Yeah I can see you have been missing the point of what I have been saying in all of my posts so we don’t need to discuss this anymore. If we weren’t having this discussion online then I would be willing to do so, but constantly sending paragraphs back and forth is more work than I care about doing. Let’s just leave it at being unable to understand each others’ values when it comes to a show. Cheers. Oh I understand very well! You think he put cameos and references in because otherwise people won't read his work or even wouldn't try! You think people which are fans of Edens Zero or like it just went in because OMG that character look a bit like that or OMG references. Seriously... Relax! It's not such a big deal. Let Mashima do whatever he wants with his work and he always references his other works for fun. This is not something new and he literally doesn't care about the popularity of his stories. He just enjoys his job and always finds a way to re-cast characters from all of his works. Such as Sieg and Jellal, and now Justice. He does this for himself and his fans, not just Fairy Tail fans. Hate all you want but he literally doesn't care. |
Apr 29, 2021 8:48 AM
#79
it was literally a shitty autograph lmao also loved the easter egg i didn't really see any point in them showing us the scene from 20000 years in the futute |
Apr 29, 2021 10:48 AM
#80
Rickydory123Apr 29, 2021 3:07 PM
Apr 30, 2021 9:22 AM
#81
madelajn3 said: it was literally a shitty autograph lmao also loved the easter egg i didn't really see any point in them showing us the scene from 20000 years in the futute As of now yes there is no point but yall will know why that was shown eventually |
May 1, 2021 3:35 AM
#82
May 1, 2021 4:38 AM
#83
Is it just me or was Rebecca extra thicc in this episode? Still pretty enjoyable. The anime does a good job at presentening the mystery. |
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May 3, 2021 12:24 PM
#84
Maybe it's Wise's son...or he simply forgot. 2000 year time skip and they found the corpses of Rebecca and Shiki? |
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Aug 5, 2021 7:51 PM
#86
I liked this episode despite I dislike the cameo and reference to FT, a series that deserves to be buried. Stop. I have so many questions with that ending. |
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Aug 6, 2021 3:00 AM
#87
Nurguburu said: I liked this episode despite I dislike the cameo and reference to FT, a series that deserves to be buried. Stop. I have so many questions with that ending. Too bad for you , Fairy Tail is still going strong in the canon sequel and it will never be buried just because of one arc LOL Alvarez arc was never planned get your facts straight 100 Years Quest was foreshadowed before the War and the plot was foreshadowed with August and Serena´s conversation |
Mazetriple100Aug 6, 2021 3:03 AM
Aug 16, 2021 9:17 PM
#88
this is just childish and lame. drop. 4/10 |
Aug 27, 2021 11:06 AM
#89
I like all the cameos of the fairy tail characters in the background, also I don't think Labilia is that similar to Wendy honestly. Appearance wise alls I see is they both have long blue hair and even with that the shades are very different. Other than that though, I'm really enjoying this anime! I can't wait to watch the next episode |
Sep 12, 2021 9:45 AM
#90
Natsu-lucy cameo was nice. ;) |
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Nov 23, 2021 7:50 AM
#91
Apr 14, 2022 2:40 PM
#92
Natsu and Lucy were linked arm-in-arm in the background of the diner, does that confirm the NatsuxLucy ship finally? I guess maybe I should catch up with 100 Year Quest... Another B-Tuber, awful. I don't have much else to say than: Now what is happening? 20,000 Years in the future? How much meta is this show going to have? |
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Dec 5, 2022 4:44 AM
#93
That ending of 20000 years later gave me chills bro. The foreshadowing in this anime looking good |
Feb 16, 2023 3:59 PM
#94
Loved the Wendy and Laxus 2.0 characters XD and the awesome Natsu/Lucy cameo This new Erza pirate lady is a queen |
Nov 7, 2024 5:57 PM
#95
Reply to deg
obligatory hate on Labilia is allowed
and damn that ending though 20000 years in the future there will be no ether and ether gears it seems
and damn that ending though 20000 years in the future there will be no ether and ether gears it seems
@deg I didn't understand why that scene from 20,000 years later was shown. Are the dead bodies of Shiki and Rebecca? |
Nov 7, 2024 8:05 PM
#96
Reply to iamnameers
@deg I didn't understand why that scene from 20,000 years later was shown. Are the dead bodies of Shiki and Rebecca?
@iamnameers since i read the manga here you go for spoilers if you want the 20k years later is a future timeline since this story is about multiverse and time traveling so there are many dead and alive characters later on |
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