Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Volume 16 Discussion

Jan 14, 2021 3:16 AM

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Another good volume. However, I was expecting much more. Most of it is just the invansion to Damuro (Goblins Country).
In this volume, Haruhiro and his party are sent to Damuro by Mogis. They can't refuse since Shihoru was taken hostage. They succefully return and end up meeting with Ranta and Yume (They went after them to help rescure Shihoru). And finally, with everyone reunited they try to take Mogis hostage as a trade coin for Shihoru. Unfortunately, they are beaten up badly, but so badly (Kiichi dies). This happened, because Mogis has a ring (Relic) that can drain power from his opponents (Kazuko strength, Ranta speed...). Haruhiro kneed and swore loyalty in front of Mogis so save everyone.
This novel was as enjoyable as the others and it gets really interesting when Ranta appers (I really like that dude). Ranta is a very important character in this volume, beacuse he knows how to put Haruhiro on the right track. Plus, the book has some sweet scenes with Ranta and Yume.

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Feb 20, 2021 12:54 AM

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Goodness gracious, I can't believe I'm 2 months late reading this volume(just too busy lately), anyway...

I thought the last volume was depressing already but the tragedy continued to pile from there and this volume was the result of it.

Looking at the bright side first, there were those sweet moments and reminisce with Barbara where she force him to be an instructor too for the thieves guild. I'm seeing it as a foreshadowing of what's Haru's future is gonna be, like an after story bperhaps. But well, that's just a cliche endings lately but who knows...

Half of the relevance of this volume I would say was about getting to know who are the true culprits, mastermind, whatever and their accomplices. I didn't expect to see Shinohara amidst them at all. And looking at the last epilogue, it seems Leslie's objective is to bring back the No Life King but there's still no apparent reasons or plans told how they'll accomplish it so I'm curious to that as well. And there was also that interlude in the middle about the origins of Albarkia and Alterna but I'm just too tired right now to try figuring out what's the relation of it to the current events and why Hiyomu even bothered spoke of that tale. I can only guess that George and his sons actually landed in Parano and they're probably from Earth as well, just a guess alright....Please quote me if anyone have a theory about this.

Now for the adventure this time, I honestly thought Haru will be able to raid the whole Damuro by himself at the rate he was breaching in, but then shi* happened. Goblins seriously knows how to make a story thrilling on its own. Jokes aside, I don't really care about the whole deal with the goblins, the more pressing matter all this time around was their shackled relationship with Mogis, that guy is too much to deal with, honestly, I'm not even sure if Leslie can actually control that guy either. They're probably trying to use each other but for me, it looks like Mogis is the more clever one and Leslie is more about just brute forcing things making everyone forget their memories and turning them to a "monster" according to Alice and I guess that's what he's planning to Shihoru as well.

Lastly, the reunion with Ranta and Yume was so satisfying, at least for a good while until they all suffered defeat. But at least there's now a light at the end of the tunnel. I really missed this type of dynamic in the party.

Sep 19, 2021 9:18 PM

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Really hard to enjoy the plot when the villain is basically given a cheat code, it’s not creative in the slightest. Everything since they met the rocks has been pretty subpar

Jun 29, 2024 12:03 AM

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feeling depressed after reading this volume.

It is shocking to find how many people do not believe they can learn, and how many more believe learning to be difficult.
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Jan 8, 6:05 AM

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Really hard to enjoy the plot when the villain is basically given a cheat code, it’s not creative in the slightest. Everything since they met the rocks has been pretty subpar

@Yuyu-haku-bro
Exactly. The combat was absolutely atrocious in that fight. Ranta, Yume and especially Haruhiro and Setora just sat on their asses waiting for something to happen. Haruhiro could have lopped Mogis's arms off 5 times over. Setora could have at that time been looking out for any new enemies. And this is the absolute basics, a plan that I thought up in 30 seconds.

This was a total asspull by the author and I am extremely disappointed. I will not be reading this anymore, until I forget this disappointment years down the line.

I suggest you read A Knight Who Eternally Regresses if you want something as grounded as Grimgar without the author clobbering his characters into the dirt every time he pleases.

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