Araragi's unanswered regrets.

Jun 13, 2019 8:08 PM

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From my understanding, it's not just his regrets that he pulled in. In the process of pulling in his regrets, he pulled in other people's regrets too.
The Gaen Tooe is probably something regarding Gaen Izuko's regret and Tsukihi might well not have any regrets, since there wasn't really anything different about her (aside from the kimono).
His regret caused everything, but not everything was his regret, if that makes sense.
Also, since he pulled in the ‘mirror world’ into the normal world rather than being in the ‘mirror world’, not everything necessarily needed to be different.
That's how I see it anyway

JakkoFourEyesJun 13, 2019 8:29 PM

Jun 14, 2019 2:25 AM

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JakkoFourEyes said:
From my understanding, it's not just his regrets that he pulled in. In the process of pulling in his regrets, he pulled in other people's regrets too.
The Gaen Tooe is probably something regarding Gaen Izuko's regret and Tsukihi might well not have any regrets, since there wasn't really anything different about her (aside from the kimono).
His regret caused everything, but not everything was his regret, if that makes sense.
Also, since he pulled in the ‘mirror world’ into the normal world rather than being in the ‘mirror world’, not everything necessarily needed to be different.
That's how I see it anyway

Hmmm that makes sense. But it is said that Hitagi is not appearing in the mirror world means Araragi has no regret regarding Hitagi. Which means HE HAS REGRET TOWARD TSUKIHI.Yeah, this is left unexplained much to my dissapointment. I appreciate your insight though, thx.

Kish0Jun 15, 2019 12:09 AM

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Jun 24, 2019 5:18 PM

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JakkoFourEyes said:
Tsukihi might well not have any regrets, since there wasn't really anything different about her (aside from the kimono).

That is correct, I'm currently rewatching the whole series and in Nisemonogatari, Tsukihi literally states that she doesn't regret stuff, I think it was in the first proper conversation between Araragi and her on screen. I love how Monogatari calls back to small moments like that.

Jun 24, 2019 5:46 PM

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Kish0 said:

But it is said that Hitagi is not appearing in the mirror world means Araragi has no regret regarding Hitagi.

Where is that said? I don't remember that particular titbit. If you could provide the timestamp and the episode, I'll have a look.
However, Araragi didn't really look for Hitagi. In fact, she was hardly brought up at all And even then, at some of the few times she was brought up, it was by people that had regrets, or he had regret towards, implying she was there. And again, he pulled the mirror world into the actual world, he didn't get pulled into the mirror world. So naturally, Hitagi would still be there. She wouldn't disappear out of the normal world.

Lex4709 said:

JakkoFourEyes said:
Tsukihi might well not have any regrets, since there wasn't really anything different about her (aside from the kimono).

That is correct, I'm currently rewatching the whole series and in Nisemonogatari, Tsukihi literally states that she doesn't regret stuff, I think it was in the first proper conversation between Araragi and her on screen. I love how Monogatari calls back to small moments like that.

I didn't think of that, but yeah, you're right.

Jun 24, 2019 11:07 PM

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JakkoFourEyes said:

Kish0 said:

But it is said that Hitagi is not appearing in the mirror world means Araragi has no regret regarding Hitagi.

Where is that said? I don't remember that particular titbit. If you could provide the timestamp and the episode, I'll have a look.
However, Araragi didn't really look for Hitagi. In fact, she was hardly brought up at all And even then, at some of the few times she was brought up, it was by people that had regrets, or he had regret towards, implying she was there. And again, he pulled the mirror world into the actual world, he didn't get pulled into the mirror world. So naturally, Hitagi would still be there. She wouldn't disappear out of the normal world.

So I just rewatched it and yeah, what you said might be true. Despite all the girl met up with Araragi, I find it strange that Hitagi didn't try to find Araragi despite shes his girlfriend which implies theres some change in Hitagi, meaning HE HAS REGRET TOWARD HITAGI or HITAGI HAD REGRETS (since its said that it can be other's regrets). Araragi said he don't though.

And my bad, it's not said in the movie rather it was my own interpretation.

Kish0Jun 24, 2019 11:14 PM

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Jun 24, 2019 11:15 PM

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Lex4709 said:

JakkoFourEyes said:
Tsukihi might well not have any regrets, since there wasn't really anything different about her (aside from the kimono).

That is correct, I'm currently rewatching the whole series and in Nisemonogatari, Tsukihi literally states that she doesn't regret stuff, I think it was in the first proper conversation between Araragi and her on screen. I love how Monogatari calls back to small moments like that.

Just because Tsukihi doesnt regret things doesnt mean Araragi doesnt had any regret towards Tsukihi. Maybe his regret toward her was he wish he know sooner that Tsukihi is an oddity.

Kish0Jun 24, 2019 11:18 PM

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Jun 25, 2019 7:53 AM

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Kish0 said:

Despite all the girl met up with Araragi, I find it strange that Hitagi didn't try to find Araragi despite shes his girlfriend which implies theres some change in Hitagi, meaning HE HAS REGRET TOWARD HITAGI or HITAGI HAD REGRETS (since its said that it can be other's regrets). Araragi said he don't though.

No, that is your own interpretation and not at all what the anime actually said. Try not to mix your own theories with the actual anime. There's nothing in the anime that seems to imply what you said. Theories are theories, nothing more. It may not be as complicated as that.
Araragi not finding Hitagi is out of character of him necessarily. Monogatari Series: 2nd Season hardly contains her except for one arc and half of another one. The ones that did contain her, didn't have Araragi as the main character.
In general, Araragi rarely goes to Hitagi whenever he faces a problem of a supernatural nature. I mean, Hitagi had no idea what was going on with Araragi in Owarimonogatari S2 until after everything had happened.
Also, it's not as if he went out of his way to find the other girls. The only one he was looking for was Hachikuji (who is infinitely better in her Onee-san form lol) and kind of Shinobu (but more because he was spurred on by Ononoki). The rest he met by chance.

Kish0 said:

Just because Tsukihi doesnt regret things doesnt mean Araragi doesnt had any regret towards Tsukihi. Maybe his regret toward her was he wish he know sooner that Tsukihi is an oddity.

I mean, maybe, but that wasn't really implied in any way. I don't really see how or why Araragi would regret not knowing that Tsukihi was an abberation sooner. The whole thing in Nisemonogatari was that Araragi didn't care that Tsukihi was an abberation after all.

Again, he pulled the mirror world into the actual world not the other way around, so naturally, like Hitagi, Tsukihi would also still be there.

JakkoFourEyesJun 25, 2019 7:58 AM

Jun 25, 2019 9:30 AM

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JakkoFourEyes said:

Kish0 said:

Despite all the girl met up with Araragi, I find it strange that Hitagi didn't try to find Araragi despite shes his girlfriend which implies theres some change in Hitagi, meaning HE HAS REGRET TOWARD HITAGI or HITAGI HAD REGRETS (since its said that it can be other's regrets). Araragi said he don't though.

No, that is your own interpretation and not at all what the anime actually said. Try not to mix your own theories with the actual anime. There's nothing in the anime that seems to imply what you said. Theories are theories, nothing more. It may not be as complicated as that.
Araragi not finding Hitagi is out of character of him necessarily. Monogatari Series: 2nd Season hardly contains her except for one arc and half of another one. The ones that did contain her, didn't have Araragi as the main character.
In general, Araragi rarely goes to Hitagi whenever he faces a problem of a supernatural nature. I mean, Hitagi had no idea what was going on with Araragi in Owarimonogatari S2 until after everything had happened.
Also, it's not as if he went out of his way to find the other girls. The only one he was looking for was Hachikuji (who is infinitely better in her Onee-san form lol) and kind of Shinobu (but more because he was spurred on by Ononoki). The rest he met by chance.

There's some forshadowing though like Araragi said that some things are better left in the dark. But yeah, it's just my interpretation, it's fine if you had different interpretation.

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