Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
Sep 24, 2017 1:51 PM
#1

Offline
Jul 2013
1917
First thing I want to point out is if its due to Yuri then should not of watched it.


Now for the main part, yeah it might have a bland story and characters were just uninspiring and no development but what you get is a fan service of yuri scenes which is what I expected.

Would like to see a bit of drama and longer duration but still I dont see why it is sitting at the 5 something when it could be a 6/7 maybe.
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines.
This topic has been locked and is no longer available for discussion.
Sep 24, 2017 2:01 PM
#2

Offline
Mar 2014
4229
I watched it for the yuri too but I was also expecting a better plot instead of the same old dubcon situations, dumb misunderstandings and no development.
Sep 24, 2017 2:05 PM
#3

Offline
Jul 2015
6151
shitty Ntr and the girls are sluts

we need heartwarming cute shoujo ai/yuri with likable characters
Sep 24, 2017 2:12 PM
#4

Offline
Jul 2013
1917
Danae said:
I watched it for the yuri too but I was also expecting a better plot instead of the same old dubcon situations, dumb misunderstandings and no development.



I feel the way they done it dumb was because to make the characters look cute in a way or tsundere. Though I do agree why the heck do they need to play dumb for the whole series. If the duration of anime was extended then I believe better plot would have been implemented.
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines.
Sep 24, 2017 2:14 PM
#5

Offline
Jul 2013
1917
tragedydesu said:
shitty Ntr and the girls are sluts

we need heartwarming cute shoujo ai/yuri with likable characters



I like sluts, with some melons and undergarments showing. There was 1 part when the bi-shounen found out and I thought he was going to bang both of the main girls but was shot down cause that be entering hentai territory.

Don't worry, I believe a upcoming anime called Citrus will be out but that will be for another time. It's a good fan service series but I think this suits hentai more.
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines.
Sep 25, 2017 12:47 AM
#6

Offline
Nov 2014
4054
The problem is the series just went too fast, everything felt rushed and the progression felt forced.

NTR and Yuri aspects are fine, but it feels more like they forcefully shoved them both in a show rather than a romance that just happen to be NTR and Yuri.
I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters.

If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate.

Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too.
My MAL Interview
Sep 25, 2017 12:58 AM
#7

Offline
Apr 2016
18785
It's just bad anime based on bad manga, there is nothing more say about it.
Sep 25, 2017 12:59 AM
#8
Offline
Jan 2016
976
Probably because many people do not enjoy it, just like any other low-rated anime.
Sep 27, 2017 6:08 PM
#9

Offline
Mar 2013
332
Played up to stale recycled troupes. Nothing all that original. It just played to the yuri's.
Sep 27, 2017 7:07 PM
Offline
Sep 2017
51
I agree with the majority of whats being said here. HOWEVER, there was one part in like the 6th or 7th episode (maybe later) when Yuma turned straight up crazy for a split second, and I thought it was one of the best moments I'd seen in anime this season.

I'll try and find the specific part, its escaping me at the moment.
Sep 27, 2017 7:37 PM

Offline
Sep 2013
22818
We wanted yuri NTR, not some shtty drama about a pretty boy abusing one of them.
Sep 28, 2017 3:22 AM

Offline
Jan 2017
1179
Lol you answered your own question dude
Sep 28, 2017 3:59 AM

Offline
Oct 2015
2153
ichii_1 said:
We wanted yuri NTR, not some shtty drama about a pretty boy abusing one of them.
her personality & voice is annoying anyways so i don't blame him



✁✃✁✃✁✃✁✃✁
i'll be a
bad girl who's
always good to her
boy
✁✃✁✃✁✃✁✃✁
Oct 24, 2017 3:43 PM

Offline
Nov 2013
3137
gotta point out that every episode (except the rushed ending) was just a repeat, same misunderstandings, same love moments, same violent moments, same everything
this was almost as bad as Haruhi Suzumiya with that 8 episode repeat (and i love Haruhi Suzumiya) =D
favorite "new girls" from summer <3 ... click sig for older seasons and more possible picks (rip all the other choices)
Nov 5, 2017 7:55 AM

Offline
Sep 2017
2999
You answered your question op. I dont know why you feel some attachment about this anime in the first place.
"When you made this thread, I cried and screamed"


-Swagernator 2017
Nov 9, 2017 12:22 AM
GetsugaTENSHO

Offline
Jul 2012
3959
You're gonna get full of answers saying that it's bad.

As a person who scored this 9, the anime was GREAT and should at least deserve a 7.3 or higher to represent it!

People pissed by the characters don't understand the characters. People pissed by the story shouldn't be complaining. The anime strongest point imo is the art and character development.

YUMA AND HOTARU ARE CUTE!

The relationship this anime successfully brought out is how "both far and close" a person to person relationship, in this case Yuma and Hotaru. That was really the focus of the anime and source of Yuri, using a cheating theme and slight NTR that spins off the dating between Yuma and Takeda or Hotaru and Fujiwara.

The premise is interesting. Two "bad" pair, (Hotaru and Fujiwara) friends with Two "good" pair (Yuma and Takeda) while Hotaru fools around with Yuma. Can all 4 understand each other?

There is no pure romance or love. No pure yuri, it's just an extra thing you get in the dark romance. Really similar to Kuzu no Honkai. If you think Fujiwara was hateable for hitting girls, ok but don't hate the anime. Men like that are plenty in the world who just wants a fuck.

For why Hotaru tolerates it, is because she'll use her body in any way to get Yuma's attention. If it means getting hurt, that too. That relates to why she teases and manipulates Yuma. Hotaru likes and wants to selfishly possess Yuma, while Yuma has her heart out for Hotaru. Their relationship strains because Hotaru is not being her true self, acting in ways to seem all perfectly fine when there's a problem (like her being hit), or later on being all distant, out of how much she wants Yuma to look at her.

While Yuma struggles to find where her feelings lie with Hotaru, Hotaru is Yuma's friend and Yuma tries to figure how they can warm back up with each other again, kissing back is a way of intimacy and Yuma finds herself actually loving Hotaru. This "far and close relationship" the characters have is what this anime really try to show.

張大です for 張大勇督察
Nov 9, 2017 12:29 AM

Offline
Jan 2010
6537
Because nobody likes NTR
Nov 20, 2017 12:43 AM
Offline
Sep 2011
344
Gonna go out on a limb and say that NTR is niche as Hell, and being cuckolded via a lesbian relationship is even more out there. Even if there really IS a significant NTR crowd, I'm guessing this probably would miss the mark. OTOH, for those of us into yuri, it's a mixed bag at best. Underneath all the layers of excrement in this show is SOMETHING viable about a couple unable to come to grips with their feelings in a repressive society, but it's not really handled well or creatively. Even as someone who lauded the ending, I can't say it's a good series.
Dec 29, 2017 8:19 AM
Offline
Dec 2017
274
For me the manga is a 9/10 better than citrus Manga (8/10)
Ntr anime is a 6.5/10
Dec 8, 2018 4:27 AM
Offline
Sep 2018
108
Hey at least it isn't totally like Scum's Wish, that was too dark.
Dec 8, 2018 4:49 AM
Offline
Mar 2018
579
It wasn't dark, it was just as stupid and much more depressing
Mar 4, 2019 4:04 AM

Offline
Jun 2017
722
Same question here, but judging from the reviews, I'd say because it's literally NTR, but what were they expecting when they watched an NTR anime.
“What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?”
― Lelouch Vi Britannia
Jul 26, 2021 12:54 PM

Offline
Jun 2019
19
I think a show having several "unlikeable" main chars makes people dislike the plot/story. As a result, the show is low rated.

I rly like stories when human defects, miseries, doubts and contradictions are crudely exposed for both men and women. I rated with a solid 8/10 this show, and if it wasn't for the mild and sweeten ending, I'ld have rated it 9/10. This show deserved a proper bad ending.

BTW I rated 8/10 School Days too.
KarlmeisterJul 26, 2021 1:00 PM

Sep 2, 2021 12:05 AM
Offline
Aug 2021
5
this show is really average tbh but i feel like lot of people are somewhere between enjoying it and wanting to view it critically and condemn it for its flawed characters when these are not mutually exclusive. this is actually a very realistic depiction of the sad reality of lesbian relationships when you grow in an environment where it's frowned upon. that doesn't make anything hotaru did okay in the least, it doesn't make the white haired dude who was a douche a character to be related to. i feel like, while ntr was not trying to deliver a revolutionary social message, and it was just fan service for the sake of fan service, it accidentally touches upon several issues that should be considered. the characters are unlikable because they're bad people, they're supposed to be unlikable and that makes the story interesting. there's not really a redemption arc for any of them, even with hotaru's own abuse storyline, they don't really give us an "awww pity this girl angle", it depics crude realities in a crude way and that's that.

i think the real reason it's hated by many is that it's painfully average, therefore impossible to romanticize and that pisses people off. they're interested in the shoujo ai relationship, but they can't like hotaru because she's abusing her friend. we get no redemption arc so there's no way to possibly justify her actions and that's a harsh reality for viewers. yuma is confused, she's a depiction of what **** culture makes of girls and that's an awful portrait to look at. she's also a teenage girl discovering herself and making many mistakes for the sake of making mistakes, another reason people criticize her character without fully understanding this is how she's meant to be -- passive, confused, volatile.

again, i don't think ntr is by any means particularly well-written, has outstanding art or sound, or is... all that... at all. however, i do think as a little short series it accomplished a lot. still average though.
Jan 18, 2022 3:17 AM
Photojournalist

Offline
Apr 2007
677
The main reason is because it was FAR too goddamn short, which boggles my mind too. The other reason is because people are so used to Disney-esque fluff that more realistic romance anime like this one makes their baby penis soft. That's pretty much the reason.
May 9, 2022 12:05 PM
Offline
Jan 2022
37
I know i might hurt some people,i think that guy with gray hair was wasted on this he's so handsome they should have made him a ml for a romance anime(am not a gl or bl fan,if you asked y i came here it was because i saw the guy Fujiwara with one of the girls so did not know it was gl)well i shall now excuse myself
May 10, 2022 9:48 AM
Community Mod
Crazy Cat Lady

Offline
Apr 2019
2458
Thread locked for not encouraging meaningful discussion.

Anime Discussion Rules 2: Please refrain from creating threads that do not encourage meaningful discussion.
This topic has been locked and is no longer available for discussion.

More topics from this board

Poll: » Netsuzou TRap Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )

Stark700 - Jul 5, 2017

180 by Mangatik »»
Nov 10, 2024 12:22 AM

Poll: » Netsuzou TRap Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )

Stark700 - Sep 20, 2017

116 by Archfiend836 »»
Sep 29, 2024 11:05 AM

Poll: » Netsuzou TRap Episode 5 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Stark700 - Aug 2, 2017

87 by Crashonix7 »»
Sep 12, 2024 10:11 PM

Poll: » Netsuzou TRap Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Stark700 - Jul 12, 2017

86 by Crashonix7 »»
Sep 11, 2024 11:26 AM

Poll: » Netsuzou TRap Episode 9 Discussion

Stark700 - Aug 30, 2017

45 by Paktoyjanjan2006 »»
Aug 30, 2024 4:04 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login