Skurd said: As I have only watching season 1 and whats been released of season 2 so far (up to episode 4), can soemone explain without spoiling what will happen. I kinda hoped since the start that I would get more info on why what is happening as it is. But I feel like we see a ton of possible life paths for Kotarou. How does season 2 connects to season 1? Season 1 had a progress I understood. While season 2 started with Kagami figuring out how humanity would survive. Followed by a big fight where everyone seemed to know each other but it seems they were kinda created and not real? And now followed by now loli girls. Which is cute and all. But it feels like they dont know Kotarou anymore, and he does not remember them either. I also see people talking about Moon and Terra but for an anime only I dont know which is what. Will things be explained? Can someone explain Moon/Terra without spoling what will happen? And how what we have seen so far has connection to season 1 story line. This second season is adapting the Moon and Terra arcs of the Visual Novel. The first three episodes of this second season was the Moon arc. Now since Kagari is born from the Earth, there is also another one born from the Moon. This is Moon Kagari, and she is searching for a path for humanity to take where they will not die off, either from Salvation or the Earth dying from human consumption of it's resources. You've seen the "Theory of Life" she has, for which she is able to manipulate and see how humanity will inevitably die out. The first season, and including the Heroine routes in the VN, are all sort of like simulations Moon Kagari has ran out. That's how they all connect, they're all possibilities humanity could have gone through but eventually die off. In the end of Moon, Kagari finds a path where Humanity wont die, and she goes to implement this path. This path is the Terra route, which just started in the fourth episode and will continue until the series is over. If you're curious as to why all the heroines are younger and don't know Kotarou, well they've already sort of explained that in case you hadn't noticed. The first part of Terra is basically Kotarou's . That is what we're seeing so far. |
Skurd said: Authoaria said: This second season is adapting the Moon and Terra arcs of the Visual Novel. The first three episodes of this second season was the Moon arc. Now since Kagari is born from the Earth, there is also another one born from the Moon. This is Moon Kagari, and she is searching for a path for humanity to take where they will not die off, either from Salvation or the Earth dying from human consumption of it's resources. You've seen the "Theory of Life" she has, for which she is able to manipulate and see how humanity will inevitably die out. The first season, and including the Heroine routes in the VN, are all sort of like simulations Moon Kagari has ran out. That's how they all connect, they're all possibilities humanity could have gone through but eventually die off. In the end of Moon, Kagari finds a path where Humanity wont die, and she goes to implement this path. This path is the Terra route, which just started in the fourth episode and will continue until the series is over. If you're curious as to why all the heroines are younger and don't know Kotarou, well they've already sort of explained that in case you hadn't noticed. The first part of Terra is basically Kotarou's . That is what we're seeing so far. So Earth Kagami we saw in season 1 is now gone? And season 2 Kagami is moon Kagami? So I guess the fact Kotarou is not a Shota will be explained later then. Seeing how everyone else but him is older in season 1. What I wonder about is if this is a new world by Kagami set after season 1. Or a world before season 1 timeline. It's neither after season 1 or before. It's during Season 1, in a different timeline. Have you watched steins;gate/Higurashi S2/Erased? Basically that. |
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Skurd said: Authoaria said: This second season is adapting the Moon and Terra arcs of the Visual Novel. The first three episodes of this second season was the Moon arc. Now since Kagari is born from the Earth, there is also another one born from the Moon. This is Moon Kagari, and she is searching for a path for humanity to take where they will not die off, either from Salvation or the Earth dying from human consumption of it's resources. You've seen the "Theory of Life" she has, for which she is able to manipulate and see how humanity will inevitably die out. The first season, and including the Heroine routes in the VN, are all sort of like simulations Moon Kagari has ran out. That's how they all connect, they're all possibilities humanity could have gone through but eventually die off. In the end of Moon, Kagari finds a path where Humanity wont die, and she goes to implement this path. This path is the Terra route, which just started in the fourth episode and will continue until the series is over. If you're curious as to why all the heroines are younger and don't know Kotarou, well they've already sort of explained that in case you hadn't noticed. The first part of Terra is basically Kotarou's . That is what we're seeing so far. So Earth Kagami we saw in season 1 is now gone? And season 2 Kagami is moon Kagami? So I guess the fact Kotarou is not a Shota will be explained later then. Seeing how everyone else but him is older in season 1. What I wonder about is if this is a new world by Kagami set after season 1. Or a world before season 1 timeline. 1. It was Moon Kagari that was left behind at the end of the Moon arc. Just think: we're on Earth now, so it should be logical that the Kagari we'll be seeing here is the Earth Kagari. Not the same Kagari from season 1 though. 2. Like Takamura said, Terra arc starts 10 years before the events of season 1/heroine routes but in a new timeline made by Moon Kagari. Please rewatch Moon arc, its really important. 3. It was already explained why Kotarou doesn't age. Its also the main factor that made all the different worlds end on salvation (the fact that he spent 10 years in a coma is the reason why humanity dies basically) |
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| I will try to clarify in a easy way, Let's say that Terra (beginning at episode 4 - S2) happened 10 years ago, but NOW it's happening again because humanity have reborn in the earth by aurora. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - 10 Years ago (before S1), Kotarou was almost killed by Kagari (because he tried to kill her), saved by Kotori who implanted him a Kagari ribbon in his arm. Kotarou was in coma (during 10 years until reach S1), stoped aging, and forget those memories. This is why Kotarou is older. When Kotarou woke up, started living a normal life (school etc...), Kotori know about his past but says nothing. - NOW (after S1), It's like they are again living 10 years ago (but no really), because they reborn, However this time Kagari have completed the theory of life. *This isn't a time travel, the humanity have reborn (reevolution) by aurora power/miracle. |
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Symphyon said: For the most part you got it right, but if you want me to clarify there's one thing that you kinda got right and you kind of got wrong. Second spoiler is the examples of what I wanted to clarify, though I may go deeper to give details to backup a bit and make it more clear. Hopefully this helps. Life dies out in all the heroine routes. Kotarou outright states that, in both the anime and VN. It just happens way later in some timelines. |
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Skurd said: Thanks for all the answers. It helped me understand it a lot more. Season 1 and start of season was failed branches. And now Terra route season 2 will be the salvation. Thats at least how I understood it from what you guys said with what I have seen in the anime. Will be interesting to see how it works out. I still do not understand his superpower. But thats maybe because I forgot stuff from season 1. I thought him getting super powers was in relation to Kotori. But if that was the case he should not have been able to do that in the terra route as he had it before he met her there... Oh well. Guess I understand more as the episodes is released. Kotarou always had the Rewrite ability from the beginning. But his Aurora power (where he makes the blades, swords, etc) came from Kotori and Kagari. Since he wasn't killed, he doesn't have the Aurora power (hence his blades are now made of blood). Extremely minor Terra spoiler: |
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molitar said: What I do not understand is he was the one that reset because he stated to himself he got involved too late in everything. So how is it that he does not remember anyone or anything about his past and his time he lived over and over in the failed branches? It was not Kagari that did the reset per say so it just does not make sense to me. Which Kotarou do you mean? The Kotarou in the first three episodes of the second season, or "Moon" Kotarou as we should call him, had jumbled memories of all his previous lives in all of the failed branches. The current Kotarou in the Terra arc has no memories of his lives as the previous branches, since he is only one single entity in this timeline. He has no connection outside of the Terra route, so he isn't able to remember the other timelines. Think of the failed branches as one big simulation, various timelines Moon Kagari tested to see whether or not Humanity would survive and not fall through salvation or the declination of the Earth. These branches failed since Humanity did fall. The solution to this is the Terra arc, and watching the latest episodes you have those brief moments of choices with the little flames on what Kotarou will do. This is Moon Kagari's theorem, guiding him as every condition must be met in order for humanity to survive. |
| As an anime only, I pretty much got the big picture of it thanks to the discussion above, but there's something I would like to ask and confirm. 1. About 'Rewrite' ability. It's a special ability right? Is Rewriter always created as counterpart of Key? So basically Koutarou has 2 superpower, blood manipulation & rewirte? 2. In moon route, the aurora that was taken to the moon only created Koutarou. But since Koutarou had gone acid trip and learn theories of life, he could create/summon her friends from the memories of the branch. Do I get it right? 3. How could Kashima Sakura send daemons (mamono) on the moon? |
jejehartadi said: As an anime only, I pretty much got the big picture of it thanks to the discussion above, but there's something I would like to ask and confirm. 1. About 'Rewrite' ability. It's a special ability right? Is Rewriter always created as counterpart of Key? So basically Koutarou has 2 superpower, blood manipulation & rewirte? 2. In moon route, the aurora that was taken to the moon only created Koutarou. But since Koutarou had gone acid trip and learn theories of life, he could create/summon her friends from the memories of the branch. Do I get it right? 3 - How could Kashima Sakura send daemons (mamono) on the moon? 1 - Yes, and Sakuya is the previous/predecessor Rewriter (no a spoiler imo it should have already been told), but now Sakuya was summoned by Chihaya and is only her familiar/mamono/monster now (Chihaya route VN). 2 - Yes. 3 - Yes I assume, Gaia have powers to even create like a parallel dimension called Closed Space or City of stone as well using their life to create it, like a giant familiar. The anime didn't explain it well, but you saw this few times Pls open V City of stone is localized in same place as for Kazamatsuri (rewrite city) so they can use it to transport familiars (mamono/monster) or storage them. Kashima and gaia are experts controling life (to create monsters and control them) can conclude that isn't impossible for her send some aurora/monster to moon or herself aurora start activity there. |
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| this thread helped me in understanding the whole story more...thanks guys |
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Ultra_Simon said: The ending is the same, yes. There is a minor difference withSo, now that we've seen the ending, is the s2 anime ending the same as the vn? I also noted there was a ln? Is the ln and vn much different? Whilst I understand the plots, I gotta say I thought there'd be more of a grandiose ending. Sure, it wasn't open-ended, but it felt rushed, forced, and anticlimactic considering the lack of interactions (particularly since such an unusual setup for all the main cast was devised). |
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TouchYou said: after completing the S2, i had the same question as @Skurd( thanks for making this thread). Thank all of the users who explained the connection between s1 and s2. Thanks for your simple explanation @Arikado- (ur answer is really helped me the most) you are welcome Ultra_Simon said: That... actually sounds more brutal than the anime ending. Probably makes more sense, though - not even sure after what I just watched. Hey, after people have seen both S1 and S2, does anyone still recommend playing the VN? And, again, how does the VN and LN compare? Anyone dedicated enough to answer that question? :3 Hm ... Despite these spoilers which you watched, you don't know almost anything about Girls' routes (5 routes) and some content from common route ... Maybe there a considerable amount of story for your enjoyment yet. |
Ultra_Simon said: If you liked the characters or found the story somewhat interesting, definitely go for the VN! It expands greatly on all the heroines and even side characters like Esaka, Imamiya & Yoshino are better presentated in it than the anime. All 5 heroine routes where partly present in the 1st season, but they were awfully rushed and you barely even got to understand the heroines + Sakuya is a pretty damn important character to understand for you to get what Kotarou is doing in Terra imo, but he is neglected for the most part and just left as that one OP guy.That... actually sounds more brutal than the anime ending. Probably makes more sense, though - not even sure after what I just watched. Hey, after people have seen both S1 and S2, does anyone still recommend playing the VN? And, again, how does the VN and LN compare? Anyone dedicated enough to answer that question? :3 Can't speak for the LN though. |
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