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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ah those suplexes. I never get sick of seeing those unleashed by the Yellow Tiger Mask. Felt like his opponent was a bit stubborn though. Episode also had a bit of beach but I'm not even surprised that Tiger Mask just trains like usual lol. Interesting to hear more about the first Tiger Mask. |
Stark700Nov 12, 2016 1:07 PM
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| yes this is what I want to see, this was way better than last week's excuse for an episode. as much as I love learning about the previous tiger mask I really wish whey wouldn't give so much away because I still want to watch it. |
| damn i love suplex's also nice to see a relaxing episode such as this with the gramps and not fighting for 10 minutes |
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Maybe, but they ommited the information that . We'll have to wait for more episodes to see what comes out. As for the episode itself, nothing quite big happened, but it was a pretty nice episode and they made a very good brief summary of the old series for those who didn't watched it or read the manga. The fight was cool to watch as always. Damn, I'm really enjoying this series. One of my favorites of the season so far. It's a pity so few people are talking about it. |
FallenEntity said: yes this is what I want to see, this was way better than last week's excuse for an episode. as much as I love learning about the previous tiger mask I really wish whey wouldn't give so much away because I still want to watch it. We can't really say they give away too much in this episode, just 2 brief fan services, for now, and a kinda lousy tag match + an old man claiming to be a fan of the original Tigermask but never actually seen in the original series, but yes I agree it was way better than the last 2, even though we already knew what the journalist found out by searching the archives, the most interesting part was the Mr X one. |
Unfortunately it really seems so, and I wonder why, I understand the direction they wanna take with this sequel, where as a matter of facts, there wouldn't be so much to say nor space for Tiger Mask Nisei, but they could've at least mentioned his existance, just pointng out that Naoto Azuma is the 3rd Tigermask, I know Nisei was not canon in the manga, but being this the direct sequel of the anime and still from Toei Animation I don't really see the point leaving out one of their creation here, considering that Tigermask II had its popolarity in the 80s and later on as well, I really feel like mailing Toei and asking why this choice. |
| another victory of tiger, but the most important of this episode, is Miss X and her boobs xD |
| I have the feeling I'm watching a Pro Wrestling themed Saint Seyia when watching this anime, but, even so, I'm enjoying it more than I thought I would hahaha |
| Tiger Mask Nisei getting the shaft is the worst thing they've done here. Still a nice episode, but certainly did not taking Nisei out of canon. |
| REJECT ANIMU - EMBRACE TOKU |
| The original Tiger Mask, Date Naoto, is the old guy isn't it? Haruna's dad/uncle or whatever. Also, are all of these matches No DQ? Last week, we had the Dubai guy attacking the referee and here, we've got weapon shots. |
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| As much as I enjoy this show, it's trailing into the suplex being the end all be all move. Of his three most recent matches, all of them has ended with a suplex into hold. Yes, it's a physically impressive move to pull off, but ending every match the exact same way is getting boring. Hopefully the show gets back to more ridiculous nonsense like the Red Death Mask match. |
LuZekeNov 17, 2016 9:41 PM
| Date Naoto? maybe he's related to out MC Azuma Naoto!? 3/5. |
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| No new episode this week. |
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yhunata said: The original Tiger Mask, Date Naoto, is the old guy isn't it? Haruna's dad/uncle or whatever. Also, are all of these matches No DQ? Last week, we had the Dubai guy attacking the referee and here, we've got weapon shots. No, it's Kentaro Takaoka. The original Yellow Devil from the first series. |
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LuZeke said: As much as I enjoy this show, it's trailing into the suplex being the end all be all move. Of his three most recent matches, all of them has ended with a suplex into hold. Yes, it's a physically impressive move to pull off, but ending every match the exact same way is getting boring. Hopefully the show gets back to more ridiculous nonsense like the Red Death Mask match. You don't really watch Pro Wrestling, do you? Every Wrestler has his finisher and generally end his matches with it. |
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| the episode was enjoyable i like how they explained the history of the first tiger mask cause i didn't watch the first series, i'm a bit disappointed that Tiger Mask Nisei isn't canon though :( |
delija9091 said: You don't really watch Pro Wrestling, do you? I don't. It's not a thing here. delija9091 said: Every Wrestler has his finisher and generally end his matches with it. I don't think that negates what I said. For real life Pro Wrestling it kinda makes sense, the wrestlers know what to expect from another, and they're not guaranteed the same crowd every performance so the guy who goes to one show expecting to see his favourite move in real life would be disappointed if they didn't do it. I also suspect Pro Wrestling matches for any one particular wrestler aren't as regular as an anime can be with episodes every week (well... almost), but I don't have any knowledge about wrestling schedules. The point I'm trying to get at here is that while this is a show about "pro wrestling" it hardly tries to portray it accurately, but rather showing a world where the wrestling storylines are real. That, together with the fact that there's no risk of disappointing an audience in that way and the actual audience has more than likely already seen the other episodes the previous weeks (or back to back, if marathoning), there's no good reason to not vary up the matches. Showing an extended shot of Tiger Mask doing the suplex hold, with the audience going "Woooh!" is just not gonna be as interesting the third time you see it, no matter how you slice it. Maybe they're having his NJPW "non-story" matches work that way, being more formulaic, and leaving the more elaborate choreography to his GWM matches. I could buy that, but if the next big bad GWM wrestler goes down with a suplex hold I'd honestly be somewhat disappointed. |
LuZekeNov 20, 2016 3:21 PM
LuZeke said: I don't think that negates what I said. For real life Pro Wrestling it kinda makes sense, the wrestlers know what to expect from another, and they're not guaranteed the same crowd every performance so the guy who goes to one show expecting to see his favourite move in real life would be disappointed if they didn't do it. I also suspect Pro Wrestling matches for any one particular wrestler aren't as regular as an anime can be with episodes every week (well... almost), but I don't have any knowledge about wrestling schedules. The point I'm trying to get at here is that while this is a show about "pro wrestling" it hardly tries to portray it accurately, but rather showing a world where the wrestling storylines are real. That, together with the fact that there's no risk of disappointing an audience in that way and the actual audience has more than likely already seen the other episodes the previous weeks (or back to back, if marathoning), there's no good reason to not vary up the matches. Showing an extended shot of Tiger Mask doing the suplex hold, with the audience going "Woooh!" is just not gonna be as interesting the third time you see it, no matter how you slice it. Maybe they're having his NJPW "non-story" matches work that way, being more formulaic, and leaving the more elaborate choreography to his GWM matches. I could buy that, but if the next big bad GWM wrestler goes down with a suplex hold I'd honestly be somewhat disappointed. In that case you're probably going to be dissapointed. Except for it being real the storylines we see are kinda what you can expect in most wrestling promotions. Maybe a bit difficult to comprehend but if you were a wrestling fan you would understand a lot of things like the finishers that may not be that entertaining to non-fans. So prepare for some more trips to bridging German Suplex-City. |
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| Oh I understand, I just don't agree. Like I said, while it's an anime "about" pro wrestling, it's not "actually" pro wrestling. What works in an actual wrestling setting doesn't necessarily translate well into another medium. But, eh, it worked for Sailor Moon. |
LuZekeNov 20, 2016 4:03 PM
| Tiger Mask I, Naoto Date had several finishing moves in the anime: one being the Tiger (German) Suplex, another Super Tiger Drop and lastly, Fujiyama Tiger Breaker. He finished the majority of his matches with the FTB over the course of the series and countered most counters to it. He also had an illegal finisher called the Tiger Chokehold which he used on Dark Shadow which double-teamed him earlier in the match with Skull Star. The Tiger Chokehold had just one more use in the anime, Tiger the Great applied it on Ken Takaoka, almost killing him in the process. Tiger Mask II, Tatsuo Aku (non canon apparently) initially relied heavily on the Cobra Stretch that Antonio Inoki so loved, he later came up with his Pyramid Drop or whatever. This Tiger Mask apparently relies on the Tiger Suplex for now and will do so until he comes up with a finisher of his own. We'll have to wait and see. |
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| - Dying because your favourite wrestler lost Lol, what a mark. Are Mike and Kevin a reference to the Von Erichs? I mean, they were in Texas after all. |
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