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Apr 20, 2014 8:42 PM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Another fabulous episode. Lovely sheds some tears! Cure Honey is just an innuendo, giving me guilty smiles all along. Also, a pretty good triple transformation sequence lasting 1 minute and 35 seconds. Still not as fabulous as Suite's extended triple transformation lasting 2 minutes and 5 seconds. P.S. Toei's objectively best Cure in the franchise for the anniversary message. |
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Apr 21, 2014 12:09 AM
#2
Oh my gaaaaawwwwwwsdddd they actually upgraded the animation of a part of Lovely's transformation sequence??? This gives me hope that they will fix it up, it's a crime that Princess and Honey's are so dynamic and high quality while Lovely's gets the short end of the stick. Nevermind, I didn't realize they did it a couple of eps ago but since I skipped the transformation sequence I didn't know lol Mana GTFO plz |
YakuriApr 21, 2014 5:09 PM
Apr 21, 2014 2:32 AM
#3
great episode the basball game was good even if it took somtime for loevly to get the pattern of the ball next episode a precure assassin this going to be intresting |
Apr 23, 2014 12:17 AM
#4
Somehow someway I'm not surprised they actually gave fucking Mana a special scene wipe. Mana is such an awful hog she even gets favored in shows that aren't hers. Worst Cure in the franchise easily. Episode isn't bad, most of it at least. Hime being so good at English is utterly random and comes as the token absurd Japanese belief that all foreigners are super-good at English. Even those from countries that don't speak English and are awful at foreign languages. Her glasses in the teacher costume are also random since the card doesn't have them, but I mind that less for some reason. Otherwise the plot isn't bad; I liked the scene with Seiji teaching his friend maths with baseball averages for some reason, maybe since it shows there can be interactions between minor characters or something. The battle, in the other hand, was terrible. First the transformation is STILL long as hell, with the whole thing clocking at 98 seconds. The transformation is longer than the OP or ED are. I bet once Iona joins it'll be over 2 minutes long, with Toei attempting to make PreCure Rainbow Burst less awful retroactively. Won't work. Honey also uses Popcorn Cheer in the second episode in a row, but since she just joined it can be forgiven. The baseball part while random isn't bad, yet inferior to the one Gundam Build Fighters had last season. The REAL problem, however, came from Megumi giving a random speech and, worse, KILLING THE TERRIBAD HERSELF. So not only she has a ridiculous lead in kills over the other Cures but given the next episodes this won't change any time soon. Great. Mana showed up and ruined the show, it's all her goddamned fault as always. The preview looks fine at least. Cure Hunter feels like a rip-off of Dark Cure however, which isn't surprising given how much this season takes from Heartcatch. Hopefully it makes up for the last two weak episodes. |
Apr 23, 2014 12:52 AM
#5
the precure who will do the messege next episode is cure mint from yes precure 5 |
Apr 23, 2014 1:10 AM
#6
elior1 said: the precure who will do the messege next episode is cure mint from yes precure 5 Because Yes just NEEDED to have 3 girls when Fresh, Suite and DokiDoki have just had one each. Plus they just had March. Guess Toei really freaking hates Green Cures and decided to get rid of them as fast as possible. |
Apr 23, 2014 1:57 AM
#7
ZettaiRyouiki said: i dont think megumi will get to do the kill the terribad next episode becouse cure fortune will take the spotlight to fight the hunterSomehow someway I'm not surprised they actually gave fucking Mana a special scene wipe. Mana is such an awful hog she even gets favored in shows that aren't hers. Worst Cure in the franchise easily. Episode isn't bad, most of it at least. Hime being so good at English is utterly random and comes as the token absurd Japanese belief that all foreigners are super-good at English. Even those from countries that don't speak English and are awful at foreign languages. Her glasses in the teacher costume are also random since the card doesn't have them, but I mind that less for some reason. Otherwise the plot isn't bad; I liked the scene with Seiji teaching his friend maths with baseball averages for some reason, maybe since it shows there can be interactions between minor characters or something. The battle, in the other hand, was terrible. First the transformation is STILL long as hell, with the whole thing clocking at 98 seconds. The transformation is longer than the OP or ED are. I bet once Iona joins it'll be over 2 minutes long, with Toei attempting to make PreCure Rainbow Burst less awful retroactively. Won't work. Honey also uses Popcorn Cheer in the second episode in a row, but since she just joined it can be forgiven. The baseball part while random isn't bad, yet inferior to the one Gundam Build Fighters had last season. The REAL problem, however, came from Megumi giving a random speech and, worse, KILLING THE TERRIBAD HERSELF. So not only she has a ridiculous lead in kills over the other Cures but given the next episodes this won't change any time soon. Great. Mana showed up and ruined the show, it's all her goddamned fault as always. The preview looks fine at least. Cure Hunter feels like a rip-off of Dark Cure however, which isn't surprising given how much this season takes from Heartcatch. Hopefully it makes up for the last two weak episodes. |
Apr 23, 2014 2:07 AM
#8
elior1 said: i dont think megumi will get to do the kill the terribad next episode becouse cure fortune will take the spotlight to fight the hunter Right, next episode is fine, the problem will be the ones afterwards. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:26 AM
#9
ZettaiRyouiki said: First the transformation is STILL long as hell, with the whole thing clocking at 98 seconds. The transformation is longer than the OP or ED are. I bet once Iona joins it'll be over 2 minutes long, with Toei attempting to make PreCure Rainbow Burst less awful retroactively 98 seconds is totally not long enough. Suite Precure's triple and quadruple transformation clocked in at 122 seconds. xD The longer us adults get to see HIGH BUDGET ANIMATION in a kid's show, the better! :P :P :P |
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Apr 23, 2014 6:21 AM
#10
The "But all my friends are doing it" excuse doesn't work. |
Apr 23, 2014 9:02 AM
#11
ZettaiRyouiki said: Hime being so good at English is utterly random and comes as the token absurd Japanese belief that all foreigners are super-good at English. Even those from countries that don't speak English and are awful at foreign languages. Yeah, it's pretty nonsense; but it kinda makes you wonder if Hime is becoming the new Mana Sue in terms of the Slice of Life narrative. ZettaiRyouiki said: The battle, in the other hand, was terrible. First the transformation is STILL long as hell, with the whole thing clocking at 98 seconds. The transformation is longer than the OP or ED are. I bet once Iona joins it'll be over 2 minutes long, with Toei attempting to make PreCure Rainbow Burst less awful retroactively. Won't work. Honey also uses Popcorn Cheer in the second episode in a row, but since she just joined it can be forgiven. The baseball part while random isn't bad, yet inferior to the one Gundam Build Fighters had last season. The REAL problem, however, came from Megumi giving a random speech and, worse, KILLING THE TERRIBAD HERSELF. So not only she has a ridiculous lead in kills over the other Cures but given the next episodes this won't change any time soon. Great. Mana showed up and ruined the show, it's all her goddamned fault as always. Give Toei some good credit for this battle. They thankfully skipped the Terribad summoning sequence, they cut away most of the stock footage from each Cure's sequence during the group transformation (imagine if they didn't...), and the transitions during said sequence were smoother than grandma's chewy brownies (now, I'm hungrier...). However, the problem is that they should have arrived on-scene in their Cure forms as we both agreed upon; but hey, magical girl tradition :(. By the way, thank you for noting your fear of Cure Fortune adding to the group transformation's somewhat ridiculous runtime, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Let's judge it when it happens like we should. The baseball antics reminded me of how Smile would play out several of it's fight scenes: silly, yet serious at the same time. It sure as hell put a grin on my face. Also, what do you mean the "Gundam Build Fighter" from last season? Refresh my memory on that please (episode number would be nice as well), and how is that better than this episode? It was Megumi's episode, of course she should be given the kill; but hell, why not pass it off to Princess to return the favor from a few months back? Another thing: what was so random about Lovely's "speech"? Wasn't she just telling off Namakerda for trying to convince her that she's not so different from him when it comes to being lazy? It didn't even take her half a minute to do that! |
Apr 23, 2014 10:28 AM
#12
1. It's always the nice ones with low grades :( 2. Playing baseball with the saiyakus in a real baseball field was weird 5/10 |
Apr 23, 2014 11:43 AM
#13
Took 12 episodes, but now one Cure from each team has shown up in an episode. This was a very enjoyable episode. I felt we got to learn a little bit more about the characters in this episode. Not a lot , but just a little to get to know more about them. The triple transformation was really good. This might be my favorite triple transformation in Precure. I really like the start of the transformation and the ending. It had a good flow to it and it showed each of the girl's transforming in there own way. The battle was alright. Nothing great, but I liked it. Next episode looks good with this Cure Hunter coming in. Can't wait to see what this guy can do. |
Apr 23, 2014 12:47 PM
#14
aNinjaWithAIDS said: Yeah, it's pretty nonsense; but it kinda makes you wonder if Hime is becoming the new Mana Sue in terms of the Slice of Life narrative. Nah, as said this is just a weird Japanese stereotype, like how all foreigners are blonde and with blue eyes even if they are from, say, France. Yeah, like the French Cure. If anything Seiji is the one they're making hypercompetent. aNinjaWithAIDS said: Give Toei some good credit for this battle. They thankfully skipped the Terribad summoning sequence, they cut away most of the stock footage from each Cure's sequence during the group transformation (imagine if they didn't...), and the transitions during said sequence were smoother than grandma's chewy brownies (now, I'm hungrier...). However, the problem is that they should have arrived on-scene in their Cure forms as we both agreed upon; but hey, magical girl tradition :(. By the way, thank you for noting your fear of Cure Fortune adding to the group transformation's somewhat ridiculous runtime, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Let's judge it when it happens like we should. The baseball antics reminded me of how Smile would play out several of it's fight scenes: silly, yet serious at the same time. It sure as hell put a grin on my face. Also, what do you mean the "Gundam Build Fighter" from last season? Refresh my memory on that please (episode number would be nice as well), and how is that better than this episode? It was Megumi's episode, of course she should be given the kill; but hell, why not pass it off to Princess to return the favor from a few months back? Another thing: what was so random about Lovely's "speech"? Wasn't she just telling off Namakerda for trying to convince her that she's not so different from him when it comes to being lazy? It didn't even take her half a minute to do that! Right, the transformation itself ain't bad, point taken. I just didn't like how with two it lasted a minute and adding Honey didn't make them try to fit the 3 Cures in said minute or so but rather add a whole half a minute extra just for her, that's why I mentioned Iona. But yeah, that won't happen in a few months so let's wait. The GBF episode was #13. I liked that one more, partially because Mobile Suits playing baseball is silly sure, but mainly because the baseball was actual part of the plot and winning or losing it was an important deal. Here, even if Megumi had lost she could've blasted the Terribad away. I mean, maybe I was a bit harsh with the baseball, but it felt kind of random and not related to the "Megumi is bad at studying" plot. Blame Toei trying to have an episode both about Megumi AND about a classmate and downplaying the latter. That's the thing, had Hime got HER win in HER episode now this would be balance, but after that episode it just comes like they're feeding Megumi kills so she'll always have a level lead or something. As for the speech maybe I'm just being hasty, but the latest seasons had this bad habit of having their Pink Cure and the Pink Cure alone randomly giving off speeches in battle while everyone else just nods, which comes as trying to show off how awesome the Pink one is. That's it. noctaf said: Complaining about Megumi's kill count is worthless considering the absolute lack of screen time she gets in comparison to Hime. You mean the screentime they often share? Because 80% of the time or so they're together. |
Apr 23, 2014 1:32 PM
#15
ZettaiRyouiki said: The battle, in the other hand, was terrible. First the transformation is STILL long as hell, with the whole thing clocking at 98 seconds. The transformation is longer than the OP or ED are. I bet once Iona joins it'll be over 2 minutes long, with Toei attempting to make PreCure Rainbow Burst less awful retroactively. Won't work. Honey also uses Popcorn Cheer in the second episode in a row, but since she just joined it can be forgiven. The baseball part while random isn't bad, yet inferior to the one Gundam Build Fighters had last season. The REAL problem, however, came from Megumi giving a random speech and, worse, KILLING THE TERRIBAD HERSELF. So not only she has a ridiculous lead in kills over the other Cures but given the next episodes this won't change any time soon. Great. Mana showed up and ruined the show, it's all her goddamned fault as always. aNinjaWithAIDS said: Give Toei some good credit for this battle. They thankfully skipped the Terribad summoning sequence, they cut away most of the stock footage from each Cure's sequence during the group transformation (imagine if they didn't...), and the transitions during said sequence were smoother than grandma's chewy brownies (now, I'm hungrier...). However, the problem is that they should have arrived on-scene in their Cure forms as we both agreed upon; but hey, magical girl tradition :(. By the way, thank you for noting your fear of Cure Fortune adding to the group transformation's somewhat ridiculous runtime, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Let's judge it when it happens like we should. I have to disagree with the the transformation being long and that they should have just shown up already to go. This was the first time, Cure Honey, was to transform with the others. So I feel like they had to do the transforming as a group. Besides, I can only think of a few episodes, where the Cures were already transformed and even still at least 1 Cure well transform in an episode. I just don't see the hate for a 1 minute long scene? Hopefully after a few more episodes they well try and compress it down. noctaf said: Complaining about Megumi's kill count is worthless considering the absolute lack of screen time she gets in comparison to Hime. Kinda have to agree with this guy. I don't see the point in who get's the kill? I think it would become a problem if Cure Lovely was the only one who could get the kill in. Kinda like what they did for Cure Heart when she got the Love Heart weapon. Even thou they all 4 members had one, only Heart was able to beat the monster with it, while the other could attack and defend with it, but not get the kill in. If Lovely turns into that, then it well be bad. |
animedude1287Apr 23, 2014 3:41 PM
Apr 23, 2014 1:43 PM
#16
animedude1287 said: I just don't see the hate for a 1 minute long scene? Hopefully after a few more episodes they well try and compress it down. One minute and a half of canned footage on the transformation alone + everything else that is also canned like regular attacks, the 3D attacks and the finishers, which can get pretty long when they are combinations = a lot of minutes every episode of nothing new. Not to say everything should be short and to the point, but at times it feels like by episode 40 half the episode will be stock footage. animedude1287 said: Kinda have to agree with this guy. I don't see the point in who get's the kill? I think it would become a problem if Cure Lovely was the only one who could get the kill in. Kinda like what they did for Cure Heart when she got the Love Heart weapon. Even thou they all 4 members had one, only Heart was able to beat the monster with it, while the other could attack and defend with it, but not get the kill in. If Lovely turns into that, then it well be bad. It matters since they had two episodes on a row where Princess randomly handed Lovely the kill, one of which was about HIME, yet Lovely can't even return the favor and instead ensures she has twice the kills Princess does. It's one of these things that by themselves aren't TOO bad but together with others come as Pink Cure Bias. And yes, the Love Heart was freaking dumb since it was clear all the girls could shoot an arrow yet only Mana used it for that outside of combinations, but then again DokiDoki was by far the worst case of Pink Cure Bias to this date so it's kind of a given. |
Apr 23, 2014 3:30 PM
#17
Finally they got rid of that awfull transformation - this one was great and I don't mind it being longer one, it's pretty. Sure they could (and should) rid of Hime and Megumi but Honey is still awesome. And they didn't forget about making Seiji useful, well done Toei. Really liked that attack of hers and that outfit is better than normal one. As for theme this week, bug guy is right of course not doing anything is best thing to do and it doesn't affect one future. I would join him :P but since it's for kids we can't have those nice things :( I started to like this series, just as I've said adding Honey might make it good. |
Apr 23, 2014 3:50 PM
#18
At least this time Honey got to stay in her cheerleader outfit after the special move scene. They're so inconsistent with their work on Happiness Charge. The Heart introduction definitely was the best part of the episode. |
Apr 23, 2014 4:03 PM
#19
ZettaiRyouiki said: One minute and a half of canned footage on the transformation alone + everything else that is also canned like regular attacks, the 3D attacks and the finishers, which can get pretty long when they are combinations = a lot of minutes every episode of nothing new. Not to say everything should be short and to the point, but at times it feels like by episode 40 half the episode will be stock footage. Well that just sounds like Precure to me. Yes the 3D attacks are new, but Precure always has been a stock footage show. Not trying to be rued, but that's just how it looks to me. ZettaiRyouiki said: It matters since they had two episodes on a row where Princess randomly handed Lovely the kill, one of which was about HIME, yet Lovely can't even return the favor and instead ensures she has twice the kills Princess does. It's one of these things that by themselves aren't TOO bad but together with others come as Pink Cure Bias. And yes, the Love Heart was freaking dumb since it was clear all the girls could shoot an arrow yet only Mana used it for that outside of combinations, but then again DokiDoki was by far the worst case of Pink Cure Bias to this date so it's kind of a given. Ok, I can see your point on that. It is kinda weird that Princess gives Lovely the win, when the episode was about Princess. But I still don't see it being to big of a deal. Besides this episode so far Lovely and Princess have been doing a combo attack, giving them both the kill, Cure Fortune got one, and Cure Honey got last weeks episode kill. So as long as Lovely doesn't get some weapon that let's her be the only to get the kill in, I think everything well be fine. |
Apr 23, 2014 11:38 PM
#20
animedude1287 said: Well that just sounds like Precure to me. Yes the 3D attacks are new, but Precure always has been a stock footage show. Not trying to be rued, but that's just how it looks to me. But it doesn't always get this bad. Maybe I'm just bitter, but honestly lately they've been abusing stock footage too much. animedude1287 said: Ok, I can see your point on that. It is kinda weird that Princess gives Lovely the win, when the episode was about Princess. But I still don't see it being to big of a deal. Besides this episode so far Lovely and Princess have been doing a combo attack, giving them both the kill, Cure Fortune got one, and Cure Honey got last weeks episode kill. So as long as Lovely doesn't get some weapon that let's her be the only to get the kill in, I think everything well be fine. Well, as said by itself it's not bad, but "Pink Cure gets ahead in kills for no reason" tends to be one of the first symptoms of Pink Cure Bias, which made me feel a bit uneasy. Maybe it ends being nothing, maybe it ends with Lovely hogging the show. |
Apr 24, 2014 6:50 AM
#21
Recycling is very good for the environment and humanity. Seeing how Japan imports far more fossil fuels for power generation after Fukushima, the importance of the use of recycled stock footage cannot be understated. Less new animation means less new frames rendered which means reduced power consumption. Also adapting and recycling existing ideas and plotlines is also very good for the environment and humanity. It reduces calorie usage as less brainpower is consumed. This results in less food consumption which has knock-on effects such as reduced energy costs in growing and transporting the food. Therefore, Toei is to be commended to the highest degree for using elements of Aikatsu in Happiness Charge. PreCure is truly SAVING the world. |
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Apr 29, 2014 6:38 PM
#22
Im happy that I've finally seen one character flaw in Megumi already, the fact that she doesn't have the best grades. Gosh I was worried she'd be another Mana |
May 24, 2014 11:07 PM
#23
Another amazing episode :) Cure Heart!!! I freaking knew that Kenta guy is voiced by Suzuki, Tatsuhisa :D Just finished watching Tonari no Kaibutsu(lol the commenter above has the GIF of the show!) instantly recognize his high pitched voice. Finally Blue seems serious about the girls taking themselves properly. Yay triple transformation! Though i didn't like they fast forward when they changed their hair, guess they wanted to focus more on clothes itself instead of the hair :P Hell yeah the baseball match is awesome!! Lovely Home Run!!! Glad they passed!!! Next episode is gonna be more amazing. Finally a new enemy and the return of Cure Fortune! Can't wait! |
Jun 8, 2014 5:41 PM
#24
I actually really like Hime and don't particularly care for Honey (what is her actual name? All I can remember is her being called Yuu-yuu and it bugs me that I can't remember her name). It's not that I don't see her turning into a good character, but currently we have what? That she's a food junkie? I don't see me liking her for that. And, you know what?, I hold a grudge for her not telling anyone about being a Cure and I personally believe her reasons to be stupid. I'm not gonna say Hime is a better character. I don't honestly think that, but currently I just find her way more relatable, but maybe that's just because we are both socially awkward potatoes and believe that we should change that part of ourselves. |
Feb 6, 2019 6:24 AM
#25
What a great episode! I really liked the character introduced for this episode and how he and Megumi struggled with studying, if God wants to ban you from being a Precure for not getting good marks you really know you have to work hard lmao. The baseball match against the Terribads was hilarious, one of my favorite from the franchise so far, the Terribad accepted the defeat with dignity haha. |
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